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Grand Tour of the US - in 14 days (travel planning, semi-seriously)

Grand Tour of the US - in 14 days (travel planning, semi-seriously)

Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 06:34 AM
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Highly recommend the Architecture Foundation tours of Chicago, definitely the boat - https://www.architecture.org/tours

For my too brief visit see: https://mytimetotravel.wordpress.com...lwind-chicago/
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Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 06:45 AM
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Highly recommend the Architecture Foundation tours of Chicago, definitely the boat - https://www.architecture.org/tours

For my too brief visit see: https://mytimetotravel.wordpress.com...lwind-chicago/
Many thanks!! Your trip report sure got me interested in taking a more in-depth look at Chicago.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 07:16 AM
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I have spent a night or two in the HI hostel in Chicago (largest in the US). If you arrive by train to Chicago from the east, you have several hours to wander around Chicago before getting on a train to the west. Flagstaff is on the route of the Southwest Chief but it might be better to get off in Albuquerque earlier in the day and rent a car there. There is a Rt. 66 hostel in ABQ (not Hostel International).
If you do go to the meteor crater in AZ, plan for a stop in Winslow AZ. On the corner next to the statue of Glen Frey is a parked flatbed Ford.
Across the street from the statue is a small diner that is in a former bank building. It had good food and ice cream.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 09:03 AM
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Thanks tom! Taking the train to the West is very tempting, almost like driving Rt. 66. But in this case, the train sounds more relaxing..
I've already been checking the Amtrak schedules (knowing that they may change from now until next September).
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Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 12:19 PM
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Tom Fuller is a huge train fan, but the trains in the US are slow (freight trains have priority since they own the tracks) and not at ALL comparable to trains in Europe (I have ridden trains in Germany and the UK).
It's your trip but to me,Philadelphia would be a giant sneeze, see the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall, eat a cheesesteak, then what? Washington DC on the other hand could keep you occupied for a few weeks.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2020, 12:22 PM
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The real problem is trying to see the US in 14 days. Cut the country in half, do that half, and come back again for the rest. The logistics will not eat up half the trip.
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Old Dec 8th, 2020, 12:00 PM
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I would drop Philadelphia from the itinerary and focus on New York city and Washington DC for your East Coast locations. I enjoyed Philadelphia but don't think its history will be of as of much interest to a non-American as NYC and Washington DC will be. I really like Chicago but would add that only if you have time and can visit NYC and DC first.
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Needless to say I haven't read all of this but there is another plus for the southwest--the Indian pueblos of Taos for present day Native Americana and the Anasazi of Mesa Verde or Canyon des Cheyelles (sp).

And my parents lived literally all over the world--Europe, South America Australia. My father's mantra was "there is nothing in the world that rivals the American West".
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Old Dec 10th, 2020, 10:05 AM
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Needless to say I haven't read all of this but there is another plus for the southwest--the Indian pueblos of Taos for present day Native Americana and the Anasazi of Mesa Verde or Canyon des Cheyelles (sp).

And my parents lived literally all over the world--Europe, South America Australia. My father's mantra was "there is nothing in the world that rivals the American West".
Canyon de Chelly is closed -
https://www.nps.gov/cach/index.htm
The Navajo nation is shut down.

I know this is an imaginary trip, based on Covid circumstances, but the reservations may be the last to open up. You have to have a Navajo guide to see CdeC.


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Old Dec 11th, 2020, 02:46 AM
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Is this imaginary? I thought it was something they want to happen. My assumption is that this trip will take place when Covid is past but maybe not. And of course, the Native American population has been hit harder than almost any other.
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Old Dec 14th, 2020, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Gretchen View Post
Is this imaginary? I thought it was something they want to happen. My assumption is that this trip will take place when Covid is past but maybe not.
Yes, that is the correct assumption, Gretchen .
Since I had mentioned that only in my initial post, it may have become forgotten in the course of the discussion.
But it's definitely not just about killing time or armchair travel.. I just cannot commit on specific itineraries right now as no one knows how the situation will be in 2021. So I try to gather some information and opinions, regarding the grand scheme or details. Both has been very much appreciated.
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"Imaginary" may have not been the best word to use, but my point was, the Navajo nation has been slammed. I have a friend (actually friend's partner) who lives and works on the reservation and the point I was TRYING to make is/was, IMO anything on a reservation will be the LAST to open up to tourism. That may or may not be an accurate prediction but based on this year on Navajo lands and on other reservations (east side of Glacier NP), I think other non-reservation locations will open up earlier.

If one is choosing random US locations for a short time in the States, the odds would be better to choose non-reservation locations.

I adored visiting CdeC, but if I were them, I'd not be opening up early, given you have to be in a guide's vehicle to have access.
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Old Dec 14th, 2020, 10:39 AM
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This sounds great! Me and a friend delivered a car once, stopped in Virginia, Atlanta, Blue Ridge mountains.. Enjoy your trip. I'm sure it'll be great!
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But it isn't a bad thing to check on when the trip finally occurs. The experience of a Native American site for a European might be the most exotic thing they could do. Who knows what a year may bring.
There is discussion of making Naative Americans priority for vaccinations because of their innate susceptibilities to diseases.
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If OP and his friend are interested in a visit to an Indian reservation, it would probably be easier to visit one of the Pueblo Indian reservations near Santa Fe, or Acoma Pueblo (Sky City) west of Albuquerque off I-40.
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I would opt for chicago, Grand Canyon (gotta be soectacular) and San Fran. Boston is nice but not worth spending a day travelling. Just a suggestion.


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Yes, that is the correct assumption, Gretchen .
Since I had mentioned that only in my initial post, it may have become forgotten in the course of the discussion.
But it's definitely not just about killing time or armchair travel.. I just cannot commit on specific itineraries right now as no one knows how the situation will be in 2021. So I try to gather some information and opinions, regarding the grand scheme or details. Both has been very much appreciated.
In the 7 weeks (tomorrow) since we heard form the OP, lets hope that the OP got vaccinated and is still healthy. If the trip is still in the planning stages, I suggest that it be delayed until at least June 2021.
Our new president is a big fan of Amtrak. He even has a station with his name on it. (Wilmington Delaware). Please report back Cowboy1968.
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