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kenav Jun 25th, 2011 07:05 AM

Going to NYC? Watch this video
 
This is a video of native New York, Will Mackay, who is a tour bus guide on, think, the double decker run by Greyhound?

He's the one you want to get!

Just watching the video will give tourists ideas of what to do and what not to do. And, the facts of who really are Native New Yorkers. (No, not the ones who live in Manhattan for the most part.)

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/new-york-city/videos/double-decker-bus-new-york-city$ltv-B081B446008F0B4D#content

Aduchamp1 Jun 25th, 2011 09:32 AM

Native NY'er that lives in Manhattan. I like his attitude. I had one minor disagreement, do not buy anything from street vendors on Canal Street. Some support terrorism. Otherwise he was just fine.

kenav Jun 25th, 2011 09:36 AM

Hi Audchamp - What do you mean, "support terrorism"?

Aduchamp1 Jun 25th, 2011 09:57 AM

It has been reported in the mainstream press that porceeds from some street vendors in New York go to terrorists. Many NY'ers do not like street vendors for a a variety of reasons including they hurt stores that pay rent, they often sell illegal merchandise, and some support terrorism.

Some of the stores on Canal Street sell illegal merchandise, as well. A few years ago there was a raid on a store and tourists were trapped in the basement until the police let them go. As the tour guide noted, we too have seen busts in the middle of Canal Street.

Why anyone above the age of teenage would want obvious knock offs is beyond me.

I regularly buy fruits and vegetables from street vendors but they have city licenses to do so.

nytraveler Jun 25th, 2011 10:18 AM

Most of the street vendors and many of the stores on Canal street are hand in hand with organized crime - goods sometimes "fell off the back of the truck" but more often are very poor quality fakes that quickly fall apart - who are infringing on the copyrights of the designers (yes they have copyrights just like singers and authors).

In some cases the profits made do go to support either organized crime or terrorists. the poilce have made some sweeps through and arrested people they could catch (not purchasers yet, but there are rumors that the city council is considering making the purchase as well as the sale of these goods a crime). And there was at least one incident when the shop owners and customers were locked in a basement for some time hiding from the police (who eventually found them and freed the customers).

And I too don;t understand why people want to buy this junk. It's obvious the stuff isn't real - so what's the purpose (do people think they can fool their friends? don;t they realize how silly they look?)

nytraveler Jun 25th, 2011 10:19 AM

Oh - and this is from another native New Yorker - third generation - who lives in Manhattan.

ciaony Jun 26th, 2011 01:28 AM

That any of that stuff on Canal Street "fell off the back of the truck" is what they want you to think.
That suggests it's authentic, which it NEVER is.

I live two blocks north of Canal and I regularly see people getting into the backs of vans with some of these vendors in an effort to get some special "secret" deal. It's beyond me that people put value on fake Chinese crap being distributed by thieves and dirtbags from god-knows-where.

kenav Jun 26th, 2011 05:22 AM

Louis Vitton for $30?? I don't think so. Of course they're all fakes.

Yes, there are raids at times, but obviously it hasn't put a dent in this trade.

Anyway, the rest of this video I think is informative as well. And the tour guide seems to me like the kind of guide one would want if a tourist.

nytraveler Jun 26th, 2011 05:39 AM

No - it's fakes off the back of a truck - which is why their fakes are supposed to look more real. No one can possibly think any of these things are real. the only thing "real" in these places are the plastic tscotkes

Gia Jun 27th, 2011 04:29 AM

Another Native NYer (from Brooklyn) - who also lives in Manhattan (with my husband who was born in Manhattan)... I do not support the vendors on Canal Street, they sell garbage. And I think I saw a piece on Good Day NY a couple of months ago where they're passing a law to charge the tourists who do buy these goods, because they steal so much money from legitimate operations (like fake Gucci & louis Vuitton bags etc) and they also mentioned something about how when you follow the money it always leads to child and/or slave labor, and other illegal enterprises. The controversy was in charging the buyers and not the sellers. But I can't remember all of the details, I watch mostly cause I have a crush on Greg Kelly. :)


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