Boy oh boy...PM, as hard as we would like, we cannot control the choices and actions of others. My heart aches for you and your family. You will certainly be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thank you, dear stw.

Dear P_M, words cannot express the sorrow I feel for your family. What one person does affects so many people as you well know. Again, words can't express what I feel but I do send a heart full of love and pray that somehow you and your family, including your elderly FIL can somehow make it through this tragedy. Blessings to all of you.

P_M: I am so sorry that this is happening to your family. I have a very close friend whose BIL committed a very horrible crime, and I saw what it did to their family. I hope and pray that your DH's parents will have the strength to get through this. I have always thought that there are some losses in life worse than death, and this may be one of them. Again, please stay strong, and my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Thanks again to everybody for your kind thoughts and words.

Thanks so much to LI and divingaggie. divingaggie, so very sorry for your recent loss, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

I'm going to log off now, it wasn't a restful weekend so I'm going to catch up on my sleep. Besides, the Oscars are a snoozer so far anyway. I'll record it and watch tomorrow.

Goodnight, all. I-|

My dear P_M,

I am so very sorry to hear of this devastating news that your family is coping with. I am glad, however, that you felt comfortable enough getting this off your chest, as it were, as sometimes that can begin the healing process.

Finding peace and comfort in such circumstances is not an easy task. In times of trouble, we often turn to prayer or inward reflection to help guide us. I will pray for you and your extended family, for strength and courage in the coming months and years. I will also include you on the prayer list at my church.

Blessings and peace to you and yours.

I'm so sorry PM. Good thoughts for you and your family.

{{{P_M}}} I'm so sorry. I'm glad you and your husband are there for your FIL.

Lee Ann

P_M, all I can really do is echo what's already been said. Please know that we're all here, ready to listen. I hope that a good night's sleep brings you a little bit of peace.

GoTravel, Ed and Aggie, i'm so very sorry to hear of your loss. My heartfelt sympathy to you and yours.
P_M, my heart goes out to you, also.
You will all be in my thoughts and prayers.

Ed and Divingaggie--I am so sorry to hear about your losses. I hope that you can find the strength and solace to help you through this very tough time.

PM--I'm sorry to hear about what you and your family are going through. I hope that you, too, can find the strength to help you get through this.

It's not much, but a big hug to all of you!

PM, it's a hard disappointment. But as it has been said, you have such little control. All you can do is help your FIL and DH with the emotions and consequences that they deal with from this.

Mikemo, I didn't stop statins suddenly- it took me about 3 trips to the doctor over a period of a year to convince him that the muscle weakness was really THAT bad. After I was off, I felt about 20 years younger in movement within just a month. Zetia works for me, but not to the extent of the statin.

CAPH, I never had the liver disfunction my friends have had, just the muscle ache and weakness- with joint pain too.

But just because you choose to avoid all statins for this or other reasons, does not guarantee you will have the kinds of problems a Bill Clinton has.

My Dad has always has cholesterol over 280 and he is 87 with no heart disease whatsoever. And my Mom's was even higher and with high HDL like mine, and she is 83 and the heart/blood vessel system is the only thing working WELL. I'm not as high as either of them.

That's why the doctor has to LISTEN to what you experience and believe you. When your blood chemistry is not exactly "average" they tend not to take your word as meaningful, when it is. They're doing the same kinds of things with my Mom right now. That's why these health systems that require new doctors or change in categories of doctors are troublesome to the extreme.

Thanks for listening. I have a friend who is so mad about statin usage side effect that he is talking lawyer.

PM, I had to get out of Addiction Studies and Counseling because I couldn't deal with the constant disappointment. It is like a death.

Thanks again to everyone, you are all so very kind it has brought tears to my eyes.

I just made a call to try and get more info, but due to the sensitivity of the case they are unable to tell me anything I don't already know. That's OK, I completely understand the need for secrecy, so I guess we'll have to wait for the trial or plea bargain before anything more will be known.

Many hugs to all of you. It means the world that you are thinking of me, and of course, I'm thinking of you during your difficult times too.

P.M.
I pray for clarity of mind and peace for your family as you all walk thru this with your BIL. I want so much for your FIL to not place blame on himself. It's so easy for parents to blame themselves and to ask "what did I do or not do that contributed or caused this behavior?" God bless you all.

P_M, haven't been around the boards in a while but I alwso wanted to express my sympaties for you situation. I mentioned before my former best friend became a raging drug addict...I can't even imagine what it would be like having to deal with the problem with family members. I was able to walk away after a few years because she wasn't a blood relative but I can only imagine the daily fear you all have lived in for a very long time. From your description as terrible as it sounds perhaps your BIL will actually be in a better place in prison. Maybe time there is even theraputic for him? So sorry and warmest personal regards. Perhaps in some way things will be better from here on in.

P_M, I never know what to say in these situations but I want you to know how sorry I am for the pain you and your husband are feeling. It is a loss, not just of the person but of all that could have been. If ever there is anything I can do for you please do not hesitate to contact me. I wish you peace.

Super Huge Rave: Our visit with the dr. this afternoon turned out to be much different than we were expecting! We're not out of the woods yet. But this roller coaster ride we're on has taken another upward turn. The bone marrow biopsy was negative! The dr. said it makes no sense that 4 of the 5 tests are showing that my husband might be in remission and just this one is showing something different. He said it's possible that the p.e.t. scan is just much more sensitive than the others. But he said he's certainly not going to do something drastic based on one test out of four. Nor is he going to transplant perfectly good bone marrow!

He said we have two options; another p.e.t. scan and CT scan done somewhere else or a biopsy of a lymph node. Right now we're waiting to see whether our HMO will pay for the p.e.t. scan and CT scan to be done elsewhere. (Which would be much cheaper than the lymph node biopsy.)

So we're still playing the waiting game. But with a little more optimism!

That's wonderful, CAPH!

Hi CAPH, thanks for posting this morning's appointment results. It does sound better. Just hate to hear how people have to wait for HMO approvals, but that is our healthcare today. Blessings to all of you.

CAPH!!! I had to read it twice!!!

This is very uplifting news!!!

Continued prayers and big hugs to you!!!

:)