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GBelle Mar 1st, 2005 07:52 AM

ah4sail -- others have answered but here is the definition for phishing:

(fish´ing) (n.) The term phishing comes from the fact that Internet scammers are using increasingly sophisticated lures as they "fish" for users' financial information and password data. The act of sending an e-mail to a user falsely claiming to be an established legitimate enterprise in an attempt to scam the user into surrendering private information that will be used for identity theft. The e-mail directs the user to visit a Web site where they are asked to update personal information, such as passwords and credit card, social security, and bank account numbers, that the legitimate organization already has. The Web site, however, is bogus and set up only to steal the user’s information. For example, 2003 saw the proliferation of a phishing scam in which users received e-mails supposedly from eBay claiming that the user’s account was about to be suspended unless he clicked on the provided link and updated the credit card information that the genuine eBay already had. Because it is relatively simple to make a Web site look like a legitimate organizations site by mimicking the HTML code, the scam counted on people being tricked into thinking they were actually being contacted by eBay and were subsequently going to eBay’s site to update their account information. By spamming large groups of people, the “phisher” counted on the e-mail being read by a percentage of people who actually had listed credit card numbers with eBay legitimately.

Click on http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...ishingalrt.htm on “How not to get hooked by a phishing scam”

iceeu2 Mar 1st, 2005 08:06 AM

I think the reply from Fodor's means that someone clicked on forgot password after trying to sign in with your name..and when they could not answer your security question Fodor's reset your password and sent it to you at the email address you have on file with them...not to the person trying to access your account.

jlm_mi Mar 1st, 2005 08:10 AM

Actually, iceeu2, that's not how it works. Curious, so I tried it myself (it's easy to do!).

I put in my userid and clicked 'forgot my password'. The next screen asked me to answer my secret question (what's your favorite city). I put in a bogus answer, and it just said it didn't recognize my answer, please click back on your browser and try again. So, you have to answer that question correctly. It will not mail you a new password otherwise.

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 08:26 AM

Now that is scarey. So you're saying someone not only tried to log in as me, but they did know my mother's maiden name?
That's what I've asked the editors confirmation of. Really weird.


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Again, TravelFirst, or whatever name you're using this week, if this is too overheated for you, why don't you just ignore it. The problem isn't with us, it's with you!

GoTravel Mar 1st, 2005 08:28 AM



I don't know who you bank with Patrick but Bank of America managed to lose the personal information of almost 150,000 of its customers including 60 US Senators.

jlm_mi Mar 1st, 2005 08:30 AM

Patrick - It seems like either someone did either know or guess your mother's maiden name. Or, it was a computer glitch - certainly possible!

If your mother's maiden name is a common name, it might be worth using a different secret question. In fact, I prefer using a different secret question anyway, since my mother's maiden name is associated with my credit. Just in case someplace like this gets hacked, I don't want it out there everywhere.

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 08:31 AM

OK, it is now just a little less scarey. I was assuming my security question was my mother's maiden name, but I just went to my profile and found that my security question was actually "What is your favorite airline". Anybody who follows my posts here knows it is American, so now I see how anybody could have gotten past that. I just changed my security question to something less obvious.

dcespedes Mar 1st, 2005 08:36 AM

GT, I believe the accounts belong to Federal employees--a nightmare regardless.

TravelFirst Mar 1st, 2005 08:54 AM

Simple solution, really, if you'd calm down and re-register, and change your password and security question. Nobody can use Fodors to get important facts about you unless you were shortsighted enough to put them in the system. Try to relax, you're going to blow a gasket over a system glitch.

jlm_mi Mar 1st, 2005 09:01 AM

Maybe TravelFirst is really the same troll who got into your account, with all this insistance that it could only have been a system glitch.

TravelFirst is providing so much fun to this thread, I think we should make a point of posting more of them more often and see how long it takes for <b>TravelFirst</b> to blow a gasket, since it appears to me that everyone else on this thread is quite relaxed and calm. :)

neworleanslady Mar 1st, 2005 09:14 AM

I'm still new to the &quot;troll&quot; theory, but unfortunately catching on quickly.
What amazes me most is the troll is usually the one saying the true posters spend too much time here and put too much thought into it while actually the TROLL is the one taking it so serious by needing to disrupt the functionality of the board.
People here are trying to help others and get information on travel and when you find someone with similar interests, you tend to want to know more about them. That is what happens here.
Trolls need to get a life. If you don't want to HELP - go disturb you husband/wife/kids/co-workers/friends (if you have any) and leave those truly trying to help alone. I hate that I could be one who gets false information from someone who has nothing better to do.

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 09:31 AM

I just got another email from the editors. Yes, they confirmed that someone did in fact pass my security question and that's why I was given a new password. A good lesson to me. I have no idea why my security question was favorite airline -- but that appears to be the first one that displays and must be the one I clicked and answered when I first registered on Fodors. I've never been back to look at that, and at the time never would have imagined that someone would actually try to breach my registration. A good lesson.

The troll I mentioned akskar_stockholm has been banned from the board, according to the editor who emailed me.

I'm not saying that TravelFirst is the same as alkskar_stockholm, but it IS ironic that &quot;TravelFirst&quot; registered here just after &quot;TravelLaughter&quot; was banned from here for all the nasty and rude posts. And both &quot;TravelLaughter&quot; and &quot;TravelFirst&quot; happened to be in Paris the first part of January according to their respective posts. What a coincidence, don't you think?
TravelLaughter was also known for blowing gaskets while telling everyone else to be calm. Another interesting coincidence.

neworleanslady, you got THAT right!

TravelFirst Mar 1st, 2005 09:39 AM

Now, Patrick, you've changed part of your registration, so happy you were able to take my advice. I'm sure you must be feeling better now. But all that babbling about screen names is only going to upset you all over again, and frankly, none of it made any sense, so you'll need to cook up a different conspiracy theory. Relax.

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 09:43 AM

Very funny, TravelFirst, but your name of TravelLaughter suited you so much better as you really are funny, but you're hardly &quot;first&quot; in anything, unless it would be obnoxiousness!

I have not been &quot;upset&quot; at all as you obviously are. I thought it was worth mentioning here since most posters were not aware that it can be possible for someone to cause them to be &quot;de-registered&quot;. Obviously the &quot;troll&quot; who attempted to log on as me WAS aware of that fact.

TravelFirst Mar 1st, 2005 09:51 AM

Frankly a tempest in a teapot. Big conspiracy! Give Fodors credit for some brains. And you're still babbling about names, which makes no sense. Do try to relax.

Marilyn Mar 1st, 2005 09:55 AM

Patrick, thank you for posting this info so the rest of us can be aware of this situation. We are a community here and we are known to each other by our registration names. This is a form of identity theft, no matter that it is on a travel talk forum and nothing more serious.

&quot;He who steals my purse steals trash, but he who steals my good name steals all that I have.&quot;

Meesthare Mar 1st, 2005 10:11 AM

Patrick - I don't suppose you needed all this aggravation on top of everything else! Anyway, it's a good lesson for all of us. Thanks for letting us know about it.

Scarlett Mar 1st, 2005 10:20 AM

<i>&quot;Once again appears some posters have centered their life around this website, to the degree that an errant email completely upsets their day. How did Fodors become so important? It's about travel, at least that's what the guidelines say. Unless this is a ruse to gain some attention? &quot;</i>
This from a man who posts under a different screen name at least once a week. Who seems to have his own number of hours on Fodors in the records books. And someone who never contributes information but always a comment on other posters...Hmmmm
Patrick, I do hope this is a Fodors attempt to keep the trolling down.

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 10:21 AM

Joe or Leone or whatever, babble on. Are you at your government owned computer right now? Is this a good example of how our tax dollars are being spent?

TravelsFirst Mar 1st, 2005 10:33 AM

Thanks goodness, less babbling on the west coast than eastward.

Scarlett Mar 1st, 2005 10:38 AM

See ? LOL

cd Mar 1st, 2005 12:32 PM

Patrick
He/she just loves his/her childish behavior. Sorry....

GoTravel Mar 1st, 2005 12:37 PM


Let's be honest. I have a bunch of trips on deck right now so I AM spending a bunch of time on Fodors.

Why do you give a rip how much time anyone spends on Fodors?

If it bothers you so much, why are YOU spending so much time on Fodors?

Al_LaCarte Mar 1st, 2005 12:45 PM

Patrick,

Thanks for sharing this information and making us all aware of potential problems/security breaches within the Fodor's website. I have just changed my password as well.

By the way, notice how &quot;TravelFirst&quot; has suddenly changed to &quot;TravelsFirst&quot;? Perhaps we aren't the only ones who are tiring of the smarmy, condescending attitude of this &quot;cyberjerk&quot;. Perhaps the editors at Fodor's put an end to the name of TravelFirst, as there are no longer any postings associated with &quot;it&quot;.

AL ((d))

joan Mar 1st, 2005 12:58 PM

AL, unfortunately TravelLast unregisters himself each day. If he feels like it he re-registers the next day with the same name, or maybe a new name. He uses a govt owned computer and so we won't hear from him anymore today because he's done his shift. Never ever posts after 5 pm. What I don't understand is why Fodor's allows him to re-register from the same computer repeatedly. (And to think, it's our tax dollars paying this guy to sit at his computer!)

Kath Mar 1st, 2005 01:03 PM

Just curious how it's known that this person uses a govt. owned computer??

Scarlett Mar 1st, 2005 01:06 PM

He works for a government agency..well, let's not use the word <i>work</i>...let's just say he plays on his computer all day in a government office..

Scarlett Mar 1st, 2005 01:17 PM

You can see he has gone home for the day - un-registered his name..

Patrick Mar 1st, 2005 01:21 PM

This guy has been posting here for years, and to my knowledge has never made a valuable post. At one point someone &quot;outed&quot; him at his office, I think, because he had actually given his email address and someone tracked him down. I think that was in his Leone days. I can't keep up with these episodes, but in any case, he's just an obnoxious guy who rants a lot, and also makes up travel stories as if he's giving first hand advice, when he isn't. Recently under some other name, I forget which, he did a bunch of posts about going to Wales and Scotland (he seemed to think from some of his posts that they were either the same place, or adjacent to each other) and travel my the Queen Mary 2. Then he slipped and did other posts indicating that he'd be in Paris at the same time he said he'd be somewhere else. He has a difficult time keeping all his stories straight, but I suppose that's true of most psychopathic liars.

HowardR Mar 1st, 2005 01:33 PM

Congratulations, Patrick. You get the award for starting the most provocative thread of the year!

OO Mar 1st, 2005 01:33 PM

He is that and more Patrick, and it frightens me that I was completely hoodwinked for so long--trusted him, counted him as a friend, and defended his occasional strange outbursts. What was an occasional occurrence with outlandish posts is now constant. At best he's a pathological liar, but I suspect it's way beyond that.

You are right to be concerned about what happened here with your password...the 2nd (that we know of) incident recently of someone wanting to take another's good name and misusing it. Frankly...I wouldn't put it past him, seeing as you are now also on his you-know-what list because you disagreed with him a few weeks ago on some issue. You know of course, that is not tolerated! :) Interestingly, in fact, he claimed <i>this same thing</i> happened to him in fact, people taking his name and writing something under it (pre-registratgion.) Hmmm

GoTravel Mar 1st, 2005 01:44 PM


Are y'all sure it isn't a she? Reason being there was this female that worked for the state of New Jersey out Trenton that got busted for doing the same thing.

OO Mar 1st, 2005 01:47 PM

No GT, it's a he. Some of us have even met him.

Barbara Mar 1st, 2005 02:33 PM

OO, I'm so glad you posted that. I thought I remembered you defending him, when he was using Leone?, and I thought I must just have thinner skin than I thought. I must be almost normal after all!

8JT8TER Mar 1st, 2005 02:50 PM

You guys got waaaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. IMO life is too short to waste time on this bs. In the words of my fav-o-rite band, &quot;All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit. Get over it&quot;.

cigalechanta Mar 1st, 2005 03:01 PM

I think that some of you should not post in response to a troll. I see the same posters doing it over and over again. You are giving the troll the fix they need. Ignore the urge to post. If you all stopped responding, they may go to another forum. Simply write fodors
and tell them how disruptive they are.

FainaAgain Mar 1st, 2005 03:46 PM

I think if you are on vacation you don't get such an e-mail (I am baaack :)

Patrick, it's a hint: time for the next one ;)


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