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Lorraine Sep 4th, 2001 09:15 AM

Fear of Flying .. any help???
 
Can anyone recommend any of the courses on getting over the fear of flying? I fly frequently and my fear is getting worse and worse. Any comments-positive or negative-are welcome. Thanks. <BR>

Sometimes Sep 4th, 2001 09:29 AM

I also fly frequently, and I haven't taken any courses, and I am not really afraid of flying... sometimes (bad weather, bad looking plane, small unknown airline)I get a bit anxious. <BR> <BR>What usually works for me is to think that the very same plane, probably with the very same crew have done exactly the same thing over and over, and that at any given point in time there are thousands of planes in the air. I also think that more people from my city have died electrocuted OR poisoned OR in car crashes OR by gunshots than in plane crashes. That usually works to make me feel that I am in a very safe envrionment.

jillie Sep 4th, 2001 09:34 AM

I know it sounds crazy, but I tried hypnosis and it WORKED! I have a terrible fear of flying but was flying with small children and needed to, at the very least, "appear" fine, otherwise I was afraid I would unnecessarily scare them. <BR> <BR>I underwent hypnosis the afternoon before my flight from Boston to Tampa. Flight went very well! On the return flight, my husband commented on how calm I was. Only then did I tell him I had undergone hypnosis. <BR> <BR>I would DEFINATELY recommend it, and would do it again myself. I can relate to your fear- good luck!!

Jim Rosenberg Sep 4th, 2001 09:35 AM

In the past, Northwest Airlines has offered a course. Their "home version" included a video and there was a $$$ off coupon that came along with it which essentially offset the cost, if you subsequently took a Northwest flight. I don't know if it is still available, but I would think you could contact them through the website and find out. (www.nwa.com)

whoa nellie Sep 4th, 2001 09:37 AM

You're not alone. Some aspect of flying bothers just about everyone, including the most hardened business traveler. <BR> <BR>When I was younger the only way I'd get on an airplane would be after a lengthy pre-flight visit to the airport bar. I never bought into that "if it's your time to go" argument; I wondered what if it were someone else's time to go and I was just along for the ride? <BR> <BR>As the years passed I began to realize that, by not flying, I was cutting myself off from the rest of the world. I still don't like it, but the payoff is so great -- seeing Europe, the Caribbean or other parts of the U.S. -- that I'm now willing to put up with a few hours of fear for several days of fun. <BR> <BR>Just keep in mind that your fear, however real it is to you, is still basically an irrational one. Without going into the odds of this and the odds of that, just remember that you'll always get where you're going. Have a few drinks, wear something red (keeps away evil) and keep your fingers crossed. <BR> <BR>

CrashMan Sep 4th, 2001 09:42 AM

Wear a parachute. <BR>Get Drunk. <BR>WALK. <BR>

Cindy Sep 4th, 2001 09:48 AM

5 mg Valium - Takes the edge off the anxiety.

kim Sep 4th, 2001 10:22 AM

Whoa Nellie, <BR> <BR>I also fly only out of my desire to see the world and not deprive myself out of fear. This works ok at the start of the trip, I am excited about the new adventure, but on the way home it sucks! I no longer have adventure and adrenaline to get me through the flight, and I have worried that I may one day end up living in Europe only because I had the final panic attack boarding my return flight! <BR> <BR>Any one else have info on fear flying classes?

gail Sep 4th, 2001 11:37 AM

Every time I get on a plane I am sure it will crash. We flew Egyptair on Friday the 13th last year - now I figure if I can do that, I can do anything. I try to look at the flight crew and assume if they are not looking nervous, things are probably OK. I have never wanted to take a course because although I am fearful, it hads not stopped me from flying. And besides, I don't want to take a course to convince me that something that is obviously unsafe actually is safe!

Lorraine Sep 4th, 2001 12:05 PM

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions!! <BR>

RB Sep 4th, 2001 12:08 PM

Barbara Rothbaum, PhD, a clinical psychologist at Emory University in ATL, has done research on Virtual Reality Exposure to combat fear of flying. Search on Google.com or the Emory.edu site for information on research; I believe she offers VRE in her practice. Good luck.

scigirl Sep 4th, 2001 12:31 PM

There are also a number of books available. I found "The Fearless Flyer's Handbook" to be helpful. (I was really getting to the point where I thought I would have to stop flying - used the book and am now a happy flyer.) If you do a search on Amazon or Barnes and Noble you'll find several books on this topic. I didn't find anti-anxiety meds to help much - since they didn't stop me from thinking about plane crashes. The books spend a lot of time explaining how planes fly, the pilot training, emergency procedures, what the bumps and thumps mean (normal), etc. Did me a world of good. There have been some past posts on this topic in the 'grab bag' forum - a search should turn them up. Hope this helps.

Leone Sep 4th, 2001 01:25 PM

First, suggest you search this topic ... many previous discussions. Second, see a therapist a few times and expore the fear itself (flying might be a symbol or representation, and the fear could well be about something esle entirely). Third, take two dramamine (original strength) and one Ativan 1 mg. an hour before flight, and no alcohol. Enjoy your flight. Ciao

frances Sep 4th, 2001 01:55 PM

Having read the books, practiced the relaxation, found out how the plane worked, convinced myself that turbulance was unpleasant but not dangerous, I was gradually getting worse.It wasn't just the flight but the few days before leading to loss of sleep and appetite and being unable to concentrate in work. <BR>I was really keen to spend the millenium in India despite all the anticipated problems-do you remember those? Planes would fall out of the sky and so on. <BR>Some 9 months before we were due to fly I started counselling and dare I say it-it worked. <BR>Try it.

whoa nellie Sep 4th, 2001 02:18 PM

Flying used to terrify me so much that about 2 days before leaving I always developed a huge cold sore, and unless I could cover it up, it shows in all my old vacation photos.

cindy Sep 4th, 2001 03:36 PM

Yes, I remember this topic coming up before, and I think Leone made the same suggestion about medication. Essentially it's not a bad idea, but in my opinion the dose Leone suggests is way too heavy - I'm an RN and have some experience with these medications. Please talk with your doctor about how much he/she thinks you could handle. Different people have different reactions and Ativan is a very strong drug.

Annie Sep 5th, 2001 06:12 AM

Here's a link to an article on the Fear of Flying class that Northwest Airlines offers. Reading it is a bit like a Cliff's Notes version of taking the class: http://webserv6.startribune.com/stOn...ate&perPage=10

Helen Sep 5th, 2001 09:23 AM

Lorraine, <BR>I just had a 17 hour flight on Southwest (due to bad weather) from the West Coast to the East Coast with 9 take offs and landings total -- one way! They started to get to me on one particularly hard landing when I looked over at the 5 yr old boy seated near me. He looked out the window and calmly said, "oh, we're landing". A light bulb went on in my brain. I realized if he could be that calm, that it was only what I was telling myself that was letting me get upset. Loving a challenge, I told myself "If he can be calm, so can I." And I was. <BR> <BR>I know my experience probably won't help you, but I sincerely hope you will find a way to feel at peace during the flights like I am now able to be. I will never forget the picture of that little boy in my mind's eye. <BR> <BR>Signed, Been there and feeling at peace.

Lorraine Sep 5th, 2001 10:19 AM

Thanks for the other suggestions. I'll probably start with looking at books and go from there!! <BR>

Ellen Sep 5th, 2001 03:52 PM

I too have had to deal with an irrational fear of flying. I love to travel but hate the process of getting to my destination. Last year, I was extremely hesitant and embarassed to call my doctor to ask for some medication. Her response, "oh we hear this all the time". So, she gave me a prescription for six "Xanax" at the lowest dose possible. I took one pill a few days ahead of time to make sure it had no negative side effects. About 1 hour before my flight, I took 1/2 of a pill. Then, I think I used one and a half more throught the flight, in divided doses. I did not lose control or feel sleepy. For me, I didn't overly react to turbulence but certainly noted that had I not taken medication, I would have been panic striken. Talk to your doctor about a very lose dose medication. It does take some of the joy from the vacation when you have to stress about the flights. <BR>Ellen


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