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Mers Aug 12th, 2010 03:01 PM

sarge56
I just saw your post. I must have posted mine the same time as you did.
Thank you for all your info. I defintely think it is better to stay in Fort Worth. Sounds like a place the girls will love. I also was looking into the Gaylord which I think is in the Grapevine Mills section? I think that might be too far from everything.
The Worthington sounds perfect.

and touristfiesta - I read about Etta's Place. It seems nice but my girls don't really like bed and breakfast places. thank you for the advice though. It is all appreciated!

I am excited to go! Don't really know what to expect.

TxTravelPro Aug 12th, 2010 07:25 PM

If in Dallas, I would stay at the Palomar. Great location, close to Northpark Mall, Mockingbird Station, the State Fair Grounds and all the Dallas museums. You could also drive across the street to Highland Park to see how the Dallas rich folk live :) Chef Blythe Beck has a good restaurant there, Central 214 and the old Trader Vic's is alive and well on the ground floor. There are other stores and restaurants across the street.
Your daughters would really love the Belmont Hotel.
It's hip and fun with the best Downtown Dallas view:
http://www.belmontdallas.com/
It is also right on the way to the stadium :)
I would squeeze in a meal at Hatties in the Bishop Arts District. I can't imagine that you would want the French Room. It is fabulous but it would run 500+ for a family of four and it is VERY formal. If that's what you are looking for, it is great.
Smoke, at the Belmont is also a GREAT restaurant!
Southlake is a souless McMansion community that is FAR from everything. I do like the mall and there are lots of good restaurants but it's really just not worth being that far out unless it is the weekend of the art show. I would consider it if that were the case but it's just not at all in a good location for your destinations.
If you have time, I suggest you try to stop at Sam Moon. You and your girls will think you have gone to shopping heaven. I don't care how rich or poor you are, this huge store never fails to bring out the girl in any female. I take lots of people there!
Have fun. Dallas in October is perfect!!! Got to the fair!

sarge56 Aug 12th, 2010 07:31 PM

Mers, if interested, there is also a gorgeous boutique hotel near the Square. It is in a renovated historic building and was (not too long ago) restored to historic glory. As a matter of fact, Bill Gates recently stayed there when he was in town!

The Ashton is sweet: http://www.theashtonhotel.com/

Good thing you didn't pick the Gaylord. It is a fabulous place to stay, but mostly if you're doing a "destination" wedding or something. It is pretty far away from everything else you would want to see and do here.

(PS My two daughters also love Fort Worth, and they are both grown now with their own families!)

Mers Aug 13th, 2010 07:07 AM

txtravelpro: where is Sam Moon? sounds like something the girls would love. No fair though. I know for sure they would not like it. Also, Is SouthLake worth making a trip to? or only if it is the way to anything?

Sarge56: I had looked into the Ashton, but they do not have availability on one of the nights of our stay. It looks nice though. Is it in a good location and near the Worthington?

Are they outlets near the Gaylord worth going to maybe the day we leave before we go to the airport?

TxTravelPro Aug 13th, 2010 11:26 AM

Hi Mers!
Sam Moon is located near the airport.
You might consider it as a first stop in Dallas to get it out of the way when it is close by.
http://www.sammoon.com/
You know those cute boutiques in cute boutique downtown areas? Yep, they get all that cute stuff at Sam Moon for 1/2 of the price you see! Sam Moon is off the hook. Be prepared for huge crowds and a lighter wallet when you leave. It may just be the favorite destination for you and the girls. I have never seen anything like it.

The Allen Premium Outlet Mall is 1000x better than the Grapevine Mills location (which is full of yukky non-outlet stores)... like those old outdated mall in the suburbs. Grapevine Mills used to be a great place. Looking for a 3 ft tall porcelain tiger? You might find it there! My 24 year old daughter would not ever go there. Ever!
She says it is a waste of time! I do like the Marshall's at Grapevine Mills but there are lots of good Marshall's locations.

Northpark is THE mall. Better than Southlake, IMO. It has all the great stores and it is just a few miles from downtown Dallas. Look at both websites to determine if one is better than the other for you:
http://www.northparkcenter.com/
http://www.southlaketownsquare.com/

Very near Northpark you will also find the following:
http://www.uptowndallas.net/explore/shopping.aspx
http://www.bishopartsdistrict.com/
http://www.hpvillage.com/

The Galleria is not too far from Northpark. For me it is a 10 minute drive. There have been many days that I have hit both!
Have a look at the stores there... it is a favorite for international travelers. It has an ice skating rink in the middle:
http://www.galleriadallas.com/#

Across the street from Northpark is the Whole Foods flagship location. A good place to grab something good to eat!
The Park Lane development has lots of things coming up...
http://www.parklanedallas.com/

Last but not least, Mockingbird Station is directly across the street from the Palomar:
http://www.mockingbirdstation.com/

TxTravelPro Aug 13th, 2010 11:37 AM

PS... I would discourage you from staying at the Gaylord. It's a cool place but HUGE and after you walk around for a few minutes it just becomes a huge convention place that charges for everything. Great Wolf is a place with a water park. It is packed with children under 12. I would never, repeat NEVER stay there unless I had a bunch of little kids.
They are everywhere in that place.
The Westin Galleria is in the center of that mall and they frequently have GREAT rates! Call direct and ask if they would beat any Hotwire or other website rate. They generally will!
Parking is free and the girls could run around the mall when there is nothing else to do.

BigRuss Aug 13th, 2010 12:15 PM

Sam Moon is off LBJ freeway and just east of I-35E (I-35 splits south and north of FW and Dallas into I-35W [Fort Worth] and I-35E [Dallas]).

http://www.sammoon.com/

It has been here for ages, wife has fond memories. And you can reach it from the airport by taking the north exit and going on I-635 East (that's LBJ Freeway and no one here calls it anything else). It'll take about 10-15 minutes.

TxTravelPro Aug 13th, 2010 12:35 PM

I forgot to give you the URL for the Allen Outlets.
100 awesome stores!
http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=5

sarge56 Aug 13th, 2010 02:42 PM

Mers, I agree on Sam Moon. You and your daughters will find it VERY difficult to get out of there! We always do. :)

However, you don't need to go to Dallas for Sam Moon. If you are staying in Fort Worth, you can hit the new Sam Moon that is just 20 minutes north of downtown: http://www.sammoon.com/web3/storeinfo.asp?loc=FWT

And while I do love North Park and Galleria (both in Dallas), if you are going to Sam Moon in Fort Worth, it is only another 10 minutes to Southlake.

I would not go in the evening, as someone else mentioned-it becomes one big teen hangout. But going during the day is lovely. I just love the unique stores there, including Anthropologie and the Clark's shoe store. Here is the website; you can decide if it is worth another 10 mt drive: http://www.southlaketownsquare.com/

To answer your question about the Ashton, yes- it is just a few blocks from the Worthington. It might be worth a visit to check it out, while you are walking the downtown area. I should mention that the Ashton does throw a really nice, true English tea. It is every Thurs thru Sat afternoon. It is not inexpensive, but what a lovely treat for you and the girls: http://www.theashtonhotel.com/dining/index.cfm (you can click on a link at the bottom to see the menu, also).

Wherever you decide to stay, you will have a wonderful time here. Dallas and Fort Worth are very different cities, even though they are so near to each other. The "Metroplex", as we call it, has much to offer for visitors. I guarantee you will want to come back!!

Have a safe trip!

Mers Aug 13th, 2010 07:37 PM

oh my gosh you guys are so great! My daughters will be forever thankful for the suggestions! My husband, not so much, lol. Sam Moon looks like a great place. I am sure will be hitting many of those places in the three short days we are there. Haha, I guess we will squeeze in the Cowboy game on Sunday. I am sure the Dallas shopping can't all be done on one day since it looks like there are many places. I will click on all the links to see which stores we are most interested in.

I looked at the Southlake Townsquare directory, it seems like it has many good stores - most of them we have in our mall near me, but sometimes they have different selections in other states so I will try to check it out.
I will skip the grapevine outlets.
See all this shopping, there is no time for the State Fair!

I think I will defintely stay at the Worthington, especically since the Ashton does not have any rooms available.

Tomorrow we are leaving for Boston to see some Red Sox games and also to go to an Aerosmith concert at Fenway.
Lots of shopping there! I think my husband likes the most unpopular teams in New Jersey!

txbluesky Aug 16th, 2010 08:07 PM

I agree with the Worthington suggestions. I have stayed at both and the Omni is very nice, but it is out of the action. Reatta is very good and also try a place called Lanny's but absolutely go to Joe T's. Plan to dine in the garden. Family style Tex-Mex. I also agree with skipping Grapevine Mills. It is dried up and scary. I live close by and would rather drive to Dallas than to shop there.. Sam Moon is also a great place for knock off stuff. Northpark is definitely a very nice shopping area. I love to go there a couple times a year. Bring your wallet. You will have fun no matter what you choose. If you like baseball the Ranger stadium has a nice baseball museum too. There is a lot to do in the DFW area!

missypie Aug 17th, 2010 08:57 AM

Only go to Sam Moon if you want knockoff purses. If you want FABULOUS costume jewelry at very low prices, try to find Sam Mi, which is in the neighborhood off of Harry Hines that Sam Moon used to be in. http://www.sammitrading.com/ Get the directions from the website because you really can't see them from the street. I don't work for them or anything but you will not find a better selection of fun jewelry anywhere.

I don't think Grapevine Mills is "dried up and scary." But you'd have to want to shop at the stores they have (Forever 21, Off Fifth, etc.)

TxTravelPro Aug 17th, 2010 12:52 PM

Sam Moon is only partially purses. Maybe 1/3. Some are 'knock off styles' and others are authentic as Sam Moon is an authorized dealer of some brands. Sam Moon does not sell any counterfeit items. I am not sure if I have been to Sam Mi, but I have been to other places on Royal and have found lots of things to buy!

Plano_Traveler Aug 19th, 2010 07:40 AM

My suggestion is to stay at the Westin at the Dallas Galleria. Trust me, you and your daughters will certainly enjoy the shopping. There's way more shopping in Dallas than in Ft. Worth: 1) Galleria, 2) NorthPark, 3) new stores across Central from NorthPark include Off 5th, Nordstrom's Rack and an Aveda Institute, 4) Preston Center (including Taco Diner and Sprinkles for awesome cupcakes) and 5) Highland Park Village (upscale). I've heard that Dallas has more restaurants per capita than New York: they're everywhere and no one really wants to cook. It's a little farther to Jerry's new stadium, but you really don't want to stay in Arlington.

BigRuss Aug 19th, 2010 08:19 AM

Sprinkles = awesomely overpriced cupcakes. There's a reason cupcake shops are dying slow deaths in this economy -- shelling out 3.50+ for a small cake you could make a dozen of at home for the same price (and as good with Duncan Hines -- I've been unimpressed with Sprinkles' shockingly dry wares) is kind of ridiculous.

But yeah, if you and the girls are needing shopping, you're way better off in Dallas than FW. For example: the FW shills pump up Sundance Square area in downtown FW, but the West Village in Dallas is nearly the same size (and larger if you include the new sections just north of the trolley lines), has more and better dining options and better shopping options for you to spend whatever's left over after Jerry World parking fees.

Mers Aug 19th, 2010 05:49 PM

We just got back from boston. Thanks for all the advice.
hmmm, I am confused where to stay. I mean we are really going for the game, and the shopping is an added plus! Is Fort Worth basically a small area with shopping near the Worthington where you can basically walk to everything? and Dallas is a bunch of different areas to shop in? How is Dallas a far as safety? I am sure it's not any worse then New York City, which by the way even though is so close, we never actually shop there. I know my husband wants to go into Dallas to see the historical JFK areas.

We are planning on staying 3 nights, do you think that is not enough time in the area? Sunday is the game. We want to do a tour of the stadium, but I'm not sure if that is better to do on a different day.

Oh and as far as the cupcakes, we did try out a few places in Boston. We did find one good place, but the rest weren't that great.

TxTravelPro Aug 19th, 2010 06:11 PM

Hi Mers! Isn't Boston the best!!!
Ok... You will not be in DOWNTOWN Dallas. It pretty much closes after 5pm. In Dallas you stay in a specific area. You can stay in the Uptown area (Zaza, Ritz, Crescent), the 75/Mockingbird area (Palomar), the Galleria area (Westin), Stemmons/AAC area (W Hotel) or a million other areas.
You pretty much drive everywhere in Dallas. Sure, you can go to certain areas and walk around a good bit but there is nothing in this area that remotely resembles NYC. Ft Worth is a downtown are (NOT like NYC) that is safe and has a lot of touristy things to do... lots of bars and lots of restaurants. I like it there but mostly if I have something specific to do... a show, conference, or the like.
For shopping you can't beat Dallas. For cowboy type attractions, walk around the stockyards in Ft Worth. The little shops in Ft Worth are cute but mostly overpriced Sam Moon type accessories or art dealers.

Mers Aug 19th, 2010 06:53 PM

Hi TxTravelPro - yes I love Boston. We go there every year around this time. There is so much to do!
I kept think Dallas was something like Boston or NYC - where the hotel is right in the middle of everything and you just walk everywhere. I guess I was wrong! If we dedide to stay in Fort Worth, is Dallas ok to go to for the day? We really don't have to do major shopping. I live within a half hour of 5 major malls. We just wanted maybe something different then the big stores. I am also wondering if Fort Worth just has the Sundance area? I looked at their directory, and it didn't seem like they had too much there, but maybe it's a pretty area to walk around and dine?

sarge56 Aug 19th, 2010 07:24 PM

Mers,

You really need to look at the websites to see the areas. Or stop into your local big book store and find a travel guide on Texas. Then look at both areas.

You will probably get as many opinions here as there are residents of Texas.

Please keep in mind that you are only 30 minutes from the Worthington in downtown Fort Worth to the JFK museum (Sixth Floor Museum: http://www.jfk.org/) in downtown Dallas. From there, it is 15 minutes to Northpark Mall and shopping.

You could stay at the Worthington and "do" Fort Worth for two days and then "do" Dallas for a day. They are really not that far apart.

I feel that if you keep reading more posts, you will just become more indecisive. :) If you look at the websites for shopping and hotels, you might get a "feel" for where you want to stay.

Again, there is much more to do in Fort Worth than just "Sundance Square". There are the Stockyards, the Arts district (which includes the beautiful Botanical Gardens and a fabulous zoo, not to mention incredible museums [which you stated you were not interested in], and long-established restaurants. If you like Tex-Mex food, I concur with previous poster that dinner at Joe T. Garcia's, on the patio, is lovely that time of year.

Dallas is much more spread out, thus the "areas" for shopping, dining, etc. I don't know when you are getting in, but you could consider getting one hotel reservation in Dallas and the one at the Worthington. Then drive around both areas and make a decision about which one to cancel (provided there is no cancellation fee).

If you want a laid-back, hometown kind of stay, Fort Worth is it. If you are into cosmopolitan, perhaps Dallas is better. But you will have time to explore both if you are here for 3 days. One for the game, one for Fort Worth and one for Dallas. :) If you can stay an extra day, you will - no doubt - find wonderful things to do. And I'm still betting that you will want to come back.

(PS Here is link to Stadium. If a tour is important [and it is well worth it, trust me], then make sure you plan that first. http://stadium.dallascowboys.com/)

Have a great trip!

jcb Aug 20th, 2010 08:52 AM

Hi Mers -

FYI - I haven't checked the website to the stadium, but I do know that Texas A&M v Arkansas play at the stadium on Saturday (not sure of time), and there is an event on Friday night at the stadium as well. Just keep it in mind when you are planning your stadium tour as it will be crazy around the area on those days.

Also if you are driving btw Ft Worth and DAllas on I-30 on Saturday, you really need to plan accordingly for traffic. The road is much better than last year and the fans usually get there early for college games, but you will still have traffic. Please check the schedule for times (I'm not sure if the kick off time as been set yet by the TV networks).

There is another route btw the two cities as well just in case.

Mers Aug 20th, 2010 07:47 PM

Thanks jcb for the heads up on the stadium. Do you think I should try to go the morning of the game? It's a 3:15 game. Maybe go in the morning and then stay and have lunch in the stadium before the game? I'm not sure if you do not get the full hour if it is a game day?

Sarge - I did actually get two travel guides to the area. I have been reading up! I think I am to stay in Fort Worth. We can just travel to Dallas for the day and see whatever we can. I probably might not go to the malls since we have most of the stores here in NJ. Maybe just walk around an area with outdoor shopping? Not sure if the uptown area is like that? or if it is all mall shopping?
I will defintely try Joe T Garcia's. We love TexMex food and are looking forward to try it.

travelerfromtx Aug 21st, 2010 03:46 AM

For outdoor shopping (and dining too) there is West Village. http://www.westvil.com/ If you have a car it's a very short drive from downtown. If not you can use the McKinney Ave Trolley to get there. http://www.mata.org/map.shtml Grimaldi's has very good pizza. There is also a Mi Cocina for Tex Mex located there. I haven't eaten at that location but I have loved them at other locations.

And Southlake is nice outdoor shopping and dining area also.

BigRuss Aug 21st, 2010 01:48 PM

If you're staying in FW (good gosh, why? There's not much there, seems you got swayed by the Cowtown shills), then one good Tex-Mex place outside FW is Abuelo's in Hurst -- just take Hwy 183 to Precinct Line Rd and hang a U (you're from Jersey, you can handle). It's better than Mi Cocina.

Mers Aug 21st, 2010 05:29 PM

Oh no, BigRuss, do you think I am better off staying in Dallas and going to FW for the day? So confused! What hotel and area would you recommend we stay? I don't think you ever said. Uptown Dallas?

TxTravelPro Aug 21st, 2010 07:59 PM

Seriously, I would stay at Zaza, Crescent, Stoneleigh, Ritz or Melrose. You can walk around a little and your close to everything. Monica Aca Alla, La Duni, Uncle Julio's and Gloria's (my fav) are all very close by, too :)

sarge56 Aug 22nd, 2010 12:42 AM

BigRuss- Not much there? Have you been to Fort Worth? The OP says they are not into museums. So, frankly, what does Dallas have besides restaurants and shopping???

Mers...See what I said? :)

Again, Dallas is more spread out and faster-paced (and if you are there on a weekday, the traffic can be horrendous.)

Fort Worth is smaller, close-in and more laid back.

If you want a "big city" feel, stay in Dallas. If you want a "small town" feel, then Fort Worth is your destination.

Have a great trip!

(PS I live in Arlington, so I have no vested interest in where you stay. :)) )

BigRuss Aug 26th, 2010 12:44 PM

I'd hardly say FW is small town. And the traffic around FW is as bad or worse because the highways are narrower.

And yeah, I go to FW with a fair bit of frequency. And if I were visiting the area, I'd stay in Dallas. Don't understand the question "what does Dallas have besides restaurants and shopping" -- I don't recall Fort Worth as a city for major sporting events, the State Fair of Texas (which Mers should go to just because, but there are no outlet stores), major concert acts, comedy shows, or even the first cut of the Broadway road shows (although Bass Hall got in on that act this year with the pornographic Spring Awakening -- just what we need to see, future Nazis' first sexual experiences re-imagined on stage).

I can do FW in about an hour if I skip the museums. I go there primarily for the Main Street Arts Festival, but that's in April, not October. If I need to go and do anything fun or entertaining, it's 90% Dallas and immediate suburbs, 10% Tarrant County -- and that includes Rangers games when teams with actual histories of success come to town.

txbluesky Aug 28th, 2010 04:13 PM

Except hockey and basketball Tarrant County has all of the Sports hot spots since the Rangers Stadium and Cowboys Stadium are both in Tarrant county. The Bass Hall is beautiful and has many Broadway shows and big name performers. I agree with Sarge if you want a "city feel" stay in Dallas if you like a small town feel stay in Fort Worth. Although it is not small, it has a small town charm. Although there is lots of great information on this thread there may be a tiny bit of Dallas verses Fort Worth rivalry. You should go to both and you can decide :) As far as Tex Mex.. there are many, many good choices. Uncle Julio's and Abuello's are both Chains and Joe T's is original and consistent since the 30's. If you choose to go make sure to sit in one of the beautiful gardens and take a walk to the wishing fountain after dinner... and make sure to bring a designated driver because they have the best margaritas around! Let us know what you choose!

BigRuss Aug 30th, 2010 08:24 AM

See how Txbluesky equates "Tarrant County" with Fort Worth? The stadia are almost equidistant from downtown Dallas and FW, and the fact is that there's nothing else of interest to an outsider in ARLINGTON (the town that houses the two stadia).

Anyway, to answer your question Mers -- stay in Dallas and visit wherever else.

kylemore Aug 30th, 2010 01:47 PM

I have lived in both Dallas and Fort Worth (at least 10 years in each) and can vouch for the rivalry/feud/animosity between the two - suffice it to say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder (though objective rating sources may scoff at comments elicited on traffic congestion and quality of the zoos mentioned above) - a more appropriate measuring stick from your region is Dallas is more like NY - the metropolitan feel - while Fort Worth is more like Boston. Neither is better or worse, just different.

BigRuss Sep 1st, 2010 07:43 AM

To clarify: No, Fort Worth is not like Boston. It's nowhere near as insular, it's certainly not as racist (good luck finding a major city that's more racist than Boston in the US), and it's not filled with self-important d'bags from academe. FW people don't have an inferiority complex viz. Dallasites like Bostonians do viz. New Yorkers. And New York is far superior to Boston, how this is even in question with that rather strange statement from Kyle is perplexing. The FW/Dallas competition is arguable (although from a TOURIST standpoint, which is what you will be, Mers, it is not).

All that said, if this doesn't convince you (or at least the hubby) to go to the State Fair of Texas, nothing will: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddr...-in-Texas.html

kylemore Sep 2nd, 2010 07:23 AM

Wasn't referring to social norms in the comparison (though North Dallas in not a bastion of open minds in my memory) but a comment on a big metropolitan setting versus a smaller, more relaxed atmosphere. Some tourists like the big city with the glitz and glamour, while others enjoy a more.

traveler_friend Sep 2nd, 2010 01:59 PM

You should stay in downtown Dallas, for at least one good reason... all the metro transit lines (rail and bus) converge there, meaning you can go just about anywhere without a car... even take a TRE train to downtown Fort Worth.

Basically, the neighborhoods centered around downtown Dallas are more walkable, have a vaster range of entertainment, better shopping and dining options, better sightseeing, etc., etc. Downtown FW has some good places to eat, but just one theatre (Bass), no museums (just one small gallery with some cowboy paintings), no public sculpture, a difficult ride to the rest of the metro area, and nothing walkable beyond the immediate downtown. When I worked there a few years ago, the area was dead as a doornail on weekdays.

traveler_friend Sep 2nd, 2010 02:04 PM

If you want a small town atmosphere, you should stay in a small town... maybe downtown McKinney or downtown Grapevine. FW is not a small town by any stretch of the imagination, but a city with 3/4 million people in the city limits. It has things to see, of course, but it is very limited compared to Dallas county.

Mers Sep 2nd, 2010 05:36 PM

you guys are killing me. I keep going back and forth on my decision! So everyone has a different opinion. Honestly, when I figured how much time I had there, it probably doesn't matter if I stay in Fort Worth or Dallas becaue it looks like I will probably only have one day in each city.
I will be flying in on Friday morning and leaving Monday morning. I will allow all day Sunday for the game. So, that leaves me with Friday and Saturday free.
I am thinking I might be better off staying in Fort Worth and spending Friday there, and then I can spend the whole day in Dallas on Saturday. I am guessing it will be easier to drive to the game on Sunday from Fort Worth then Dallas? (not sure on that tough.)

BigRuss - I really do like your way with words, haha. I do see your point that Dallas would be a better place to stay. Maybe next time I come I can stay longer and then it would be more worth it to stay there and take advantage of all it has to offer. By the way, I do love Boston. Although, I usually go in August to catch a few Red Sox games before the college crowd get there! Oh, and even though it does seem quite interesting, it's still a no on the Texas Fair! I never eat fried food - so I might starve! The fried beer does look interesting.

We won't have time to do too much, so we will just touch upon a few areas and come back next year!

traveler_friend Sep 3rd, 2010 06:06 AM

I'd disagree with BigRuss about the walkability of Dallas.

The Uptown/Near Oak Lawn area is really an extension of downtown Dallas towards the north and it is quite walkable for several square miles. Walking from, say, the Dallas Arts District along Pearl street and then north along McKinney avenue is an interesting experience with some attractive buildings and frequent changes of urban scenery. You will see block after block of new 4 floor apartment buildings, many restaurants, some shops on the ground floor, and plenty of shopping and walking when you get to the West Village. The area is densely populated enough to support a DART subway station. About a mile north of the West Village is a neighborhood called Knox-Henderson, with shops and restaurants on Knox street and clubs, restaurants and household goods shops on Henderson street.

The area called Preston Center has many shops and restaurants in a walkable area, but is not on the DART rail system. To the north in Plano, you have a very walkable urban village called Legacy Town Center. In Oak Cliff, south of the river, you have an area called Bishop Arts, which is very popular for its restaurants and one-of-a-kind shops.

Many of the DART stations give you access to dense, walkable neighborhoods. In addition to the CityPlace station at the West Village, you have the Mockingbird Station area, the Park Lane station which combines NorthPark mall and a shopping area called Park Lane Place, and the downtown Plano station with its quaint restored main street of shops.

Starting in December, the DART rail Green line will reach Carrollton, which has a downtown worth exploring, and will also have a station at an Asian trade district... about a mile of warehouses subdivided into hundreds of shops selling virtually everything, much of it imported.

Mers Oct 20th, 2010 01:03 PM

Just wanted to give some feedback on our trip to Texas.

After much debate, we ended up staying in Fort Worth. We stayed at the Renaissance Worthington. I was very happy we decided to stay here. It was perfect for what we needed. The hotel was very nice and the rooms were perfect (except for the double beds).
The reason we liked staying here was that after a long day of sightseeing, it was nice to be able to go to your hotel, unwind, and then just walk out the door and have dinner. We were then able to walk around a little after dinner. There was also some kind of Spanish street fair. So there was lots of music to listen to while walking around.

The other MAIN reason that it worked out so perfectly was that we were able to catch a bus to the Cowboy game (like dorkforcemom suggested above). Thank God for the bus! We planned on driving, but then the Texas Ranger baseball game ended up being on the same day. I called the stadium and found out that all the cash parking lots would be closed. I inquired at the hotel about the bus. It was $10 per person. You just parked in a lot not too far from the hotel. The bus dropped you off in Parking Lot 15 and then had non-stop buses running back for an hour after the game. The bus took a back road so we did not hit any traffic at all! The only problem was looking out the window. We drove through areas that had many homeless people. It was so so sad to see how they were living.

The stadium was nice. They had the top closed because it was about 88 degrees out. It was strange being indoors.
They lost the game, but it was a good game to watch anyway.

We had dinner one night at Mi Cocina and that was very good.
The night before, we did head out to Joe T Garcia's. I have to say though that I was very disappointed. I heard so many great things about it, but it was really just average.

We went to the Cowtown Diner for breakfast one morning, and it was very good.

We drove into Dallas for a whole day. I was disappointed in Dallas, but like BigRuss said, there was not a walk around shopping area. Mostly big malls which I can get back home.

Oh, and Sam Moon was also disappointing.

We went to the Stockyards the morning of the game real quick, but mostly everything was closed. We were told they opened up at 11 but nothing was open. Looked interestng though!

I do have to say though, the people of Texas that we ran into were very good looking people! I was impressed!

sarge56 Oct 20th, 2010 03:51 PM

Good looking, yes, but did you find us hospitable? :)

Glad your trip turned out well. We sure had great weather while you were here. As it turned out, you also happened to be here on a weekend where there were half a dozen college games in town, too. And the state fair. So, you were lucky to catch the bus! :)

Hope you found it nice enough to want to come back some time. :)

Mers Oct 20th, 2010 05:02 PM

Yes sarge56 I did find everyone very hospitable and polite.
We were very impressed by the people.

Maybe we will make it a yearly adventure like we do Boston.
I will need to track down some good TexMex though. I was really looking forward to that.

Oh, and I forgot - Sprinkles Cupcakes were excellent! Especially the Red Velvet cupcakes!

dorkforcemom Oct 20th, 2010 07:01 PM

So glad you had an "incident-free" trip - we've had great weather lately, and like the others, hope everyone was gracious and welcoming!


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