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Old Jul 22nd, 2002, 02:07 PM
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Jeez, CaliGirl, you're a real witch aren't you? What do you know about New York? You think our police don't have anything better to do than harrass immigrant merchants and the tourists who love their merchandise? Or are you one of those idiots who thinks every law should be enforced 100%? I guess you never exceed the posted speed limit, right? Why don't the Cali cops crack down on speeding? Now that might actually save lives, as opposed to just harrassing people. Get a clue.

 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:02 AM
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Dear jane-
Yes I am saying that people that buy fake designer items on Canal St are stupid. These items are not a bargain - they are obvious junk. They are low quality crap. I do appreciate a bargain, which I would define as a high quality item for a resonable or low price, not a piece of garbage disguised with a fake label to look like something better than it is. I also occasionally purchase luxury items that I can afford when it is an item that I will personally enjoy and that I know is of high quality and will last a long time. I don't buy expensive things that I can't afford or obviously fake inexpensive crap to impress other people. That might be the name of the game in your crowd jane, but it isn't the case for everyone in NY, and definitely not for me. A life surrounded by poseurs like that sounds rather empty, and in the end, all you will end up with is debt.
That is my opinion, jane, and last time I checked, I was entitled to have one. I'm sorry you feel the need to be something you aren't. It's unfortunate since I doubt you are fooling anyone by wearing obviously fake inferior products. Have fun.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:11 AM
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HelenK, does the "K" stand for Keller? You obviously can't see around you! These are COPYRIGHTED materials. The idea is stolen and a cheap, piece of crap garment or bag produced with absolutely no profit to the owner. It's theft! It's one thing for shady operators to stay one step ahead of the law but another for a city to allow it to be flaunted. Who the hell cares if they are immigrants or not, too? They are expected to follow the law just as you or I. What an imbecile!!
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:21 AM
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These knock-offs can be purchased all over the place, especially in shopping areas. Canal street has the largest concentration of vendors. Canal St. may not be the most pleasant place to be but it is an experience worth seeing of you've never been. I'm sure there are parking lots around there. I wouldn't even attempt to park on the street.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:37 AM
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NYBOY: Having your opinions and passing judgments on people you know nothing are two entirely different things. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your condescending attitude and shove it. But feel free to judge people all you want now - just wait till your time comes to be judged.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:40 AM
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Caligirl: There are bigger things to worry about in this world than the legality of goods sold on Canal St. I'm sure California has plenty of issues you can get your knickers in a knot over.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 08:51 AM
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Kate
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Mimi, you would feel very differently if you were a designer, I bet!
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:01 AM
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Jim
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As someone who works downtown and is familiar with the area, all I can say is I can't believe a debate about the Canal Street vendors could generate so much emotion. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:07 AM
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Caligirl, post on, you're a gas.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:23 AM
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To all the people concerned about the poor immigrant vendors and those who don't care about the legality of the products involved. Have you stopped to think about the people that have to make these products? Since these products fall below the radar of any legal enterprise, it is most likely that they are being made by immigrants in deplorable conditions for minimum wage or less. More likely they are produced in a sweathop in Asia by a ten year old. Think about that the next time you're having fun fooling everyone with your "Kate Spade" bag.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:39 AM
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You rock NYBoy.
People think they're getting some great deal by purchasing fake items just so they can try to fit a certain image.
I love great quality luxury items but I would rather splurge on one fantastic piece instead of buying synthetic material with fake logos all over it.
NYBoy's attitude is not condescending or critical. I remember before I knew better going to Canal and buying a fake Gucci purse. I never wore it because it made me feel like a fraud. Now I purchase items that I love from Marc Jacobs to Target because they look great.
The fakes look so trashy and why would anyone want to walk around with one just because they have a logo on it?
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 09:47 AM
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Rednecks and people from New Jersey love this stuff.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:04 AM
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Hey Also,

Look at everything in your house and on your body. Guess what? 90% of it is made by immigrants in deplorable conditions for minimum wage or less. What makes you think that only illegal products are made like this? Ever wear a pair of sneakers? Think they were made in Detroit paying union workers $25/hr to stitch 'em up? I don't think so! How about that car you drive? I drive a "German touring sedan", guess who put it together? immigrants in deplorable conditions for minimum wage or less (Mexico). Try and find retail plastic products made outside of China/SE Asia (deplorable conditions).

I think a $10 "fake" watch is worth every penny. You can claim that I want other people to think I'm wealthier than I am but the fact is I am wealthy, I can afford a Rolex, but I think it's ridiculous to pay that much for a watch just so others have a juiced up opinion of you. This attitude is part of what got me so wealthy. I think someone paying $10 for a watch and throwing it away for a new oneis a lot smarter than someone paying hundreds, if not thousands, for a watch that performs a function equally well as a $30 Timex.

Disclaimer: I think perpetual kinetic watches and perpetual date watches are cool and worth it for the true technological advance but the rest...bah!
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:13 AM
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anon.watch it.please do not bring nj people into this dogfight we buy our designer bags in big air conditioned malls and they don't cost $25.00 either.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:18 AM
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So Rich Man, why not buy a $30 Timex that will last forever instead of buying a $10 fake every time that last one breaks? Doesn't sound so smart to me,
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:20 AM
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Caligirl & Kate,

Now don't tell me you two are worried about the designers of those overrated items getting their fair share of money. They have enough people who will pay outrageous prices for "fashion". Quite frankly, the people who pay $10 for a fake are smarter than the ones who pay thousands for a bag.

Just my opinion.
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:26 AM
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To Rich man: Dittos entirely. I think it's hilarious that my Ironman Triathelon sports watch(which is indispensible) cost 3 times what my "dress" watch did!

And as sad as it is, how do we know that the 10 year old in the sweatshop isn't lucky to have a job? Maybe there other other 10 year-olds there that are hungry. I know I"m not real interested in taking a local textile worker's dirty, difficult, boring job for $12/hour but that doesn't mean THEY don't need that job!
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:28 AM
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NYerToo-
Trademark infringement is a serious crime. There are good reasons these laws exist in a capitalist society. Since you don't mind such flagrant disregard for the law, why don't you just steal a real one?
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:32 AM
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Tracy: it's obvious you're either NYBOY or you didn't read his posting AT ALL. NOTHING he said was condescending or critical? Can you read?
 
Old Jul 23rd, 2002, 10:35 AM
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Oh please. Buying fakes is stupid. I agree that buying a $10.00 fake and throwing it away is absurd when a Timex works better. My husband's real Rolex Submariner watch has INCREASED in value in only 6 years because we buy our authentic watches pre-owned from a reputable jewelry store.
I buy my luxury goods on sale and have found great deals at Neiman's last call sale and shop for quality. My real Kate Spade cost $99.00 and I sold it after I was through with it on Ebay for $140.00 after 2 years of using it.
I love my real Gucci leather Jackie O bag and my new Ferragamo doctor bag and I'm sure to break even or make a profit once I'm done with them.
I would rather invest in good merchandise than look like a wannabe. If you can't afford the real thing, there are so many wonderful stores like TJ Maxx and Filene's that one can get great quality for lower prices.
 

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