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jomale Apr 3rd, 2004 02:51 PM

Bombay dreams previews: anyone seen it?
 
We will be in NY next week and will be seeing previews of Bombay Dreams. Has anyone seen it yet or heard anything about it?

thanks.

Patrick Apr 3rd, 2004 03:22 PM

I have bypassed it in London thinking it wouldn't particularly appeal to me. Several friends have seen the show there and thought it was good -- nobody I know has raved about it. They are billing it in New York as a London smash hit, which is pretty misleading as it's been on half price tickets and specials for a year now. I recently did order half price tickets for May but in London, not New York.

Meanwhile they are closing it in London and they are saying that the Broadway version includes a number of rewrites and improvements (I'd guess that to mean mainly making things bigger and splashier). They will also tour the "new" version in the UK and will reopen in London with the new "Broadway" version.

I'm not a fan of Indian music, and when I listened to the disc all the songs sound alike to me (with that high pitched irritating sound).

HowardR Apr 3rd, 2004 04:01 PM

Patrick, you cited all the reasons why my wife and I don't plan to see it here in New York! Actually, we were also influence by the opinions of several friends who saw it in London and were underwhelmed.
We'll gladly settle for seeing Barbara Cook tomorrow!

Patrick Apr 3rd, 2004 05:15 PM

Howard, why do you persist in rubbing in these shows that I won't be able to see when I arrive in two weeks? You are just being cruel!!
Bombay Dreams or Barbara Cook?? No contest!

Elizabeth Apr 9th, 2004 01:42 PM

I saw it in London and I loved it. I quite disagree about the music, I think it's terrific. I have the soundtrack. I do not think it is dominated by the high-pitched singing Westerners associate with Indian popular music. I would be surpsied if the person who said this had listened to the entire recording.

The music is by A R Rahman, India's greatest popular music composer.

I haven't seen it yet in New York but I plan to. The story is about Bollywood, the Indian popular music capital, and is also like a Bollywood movie in that it's full of music and color and several plots going on at once - a crime plot, a romance plot - actually a few romance plots.

Please post here to let us know how you liked it (though I'm going anyhow!!).


SusieQQ Apr 9th, 2004 01:46 PM

I saw it in London and liked it.(Not loved) It helps if you know a little about Bollywood. It has a typical Bollywood plot. The production is quite large and the musical numbers good. I bought the CD and enjoy listening to it. I would recommend to anyone who likes musicals.

asykes1 Apr 13th, 2004 08:23 AM

I saw one of the soft opening shows in NYC (they are currently running for a month prior to opening). It's great! I didn't see the musical in london but i guess what i loved most about this musical was how exotic it is. The sets and costumes are mesmorizing. the music is also very good - but the seller is the "whole experience" - it takes you out of new york for two hours and into a whole other world.

Keith Apr 13th, 2004 09:00 AM

I saw it April 2 in London and like it. The music is the best part. I got the sound track prior to the trip.

I thought the story was weak.

Keith

amelia Apr 13th, 2004 09:05 AM

Saw it in New York last week. Story is still weak, but asykes1's comment was absolutely right--it is so exotic, so different, so engaging that it's a wonderful evening.

The performance by the actor who plays Sweetie is stunning.

ParrotMom Apr 13th, 2004 11:14 AM

Isn't it an Andrew Lloyd Webber affair?? That should say it all....There of us who are not Webber fans....and those that are... I'd kill to see Barbara Cook...but nothing of Webbers.

ParrotMom Apr 13th, 2004 11:16 AM

In London in one day we saw Miss Saigon at a matinee and Phantom in the evening... Underwhelmed by Phantom is a slight understatement..Give me a Sondheim, Rogers and Hammerstein or just about anybody else.. I think Webber is a fraud....a one song show..maybe. Oh yes.. I go back to seeing musical theatre to the earliest I can remember is Camelot...pre-Broadway..lol

Frank Apr 13th, 2004 12:28 PM

It's my understanding that Andrew Lloyd Webber is the Producer and has not contributed much artisticly to the production. I haven't seen the show, but did receive a promotional CD and I have to agree with Patrick, that the music was grating.

HowardR Apr 13th, 2004 12:43 PM

Specially for Parrotmom and Patrick:
They've just added a month of performances for Barbara Cook's latest concert at Lincoln Center. She'll be performing in the smaller Mitzi Newhouse Theater six evenings a week (Monday thru Saturday)for most of June. My wife and I thought it was her best concert ever. Tickets go on sale on April 16.

pj Apr 13th, 2004 12:43 PM

I saw it in London, 2 years ago. I loved it for what it is, a fun over the type bollywood production. Is it really supposed to have a strong story line?
In London they had a slithering, wet dance number, is that still part of the play? It was really cool!
I loved the guys on the drums on the side of the stage. Well enjoy, I thought it was pure fun entertainment!

memee Apr 13th, 2004 12:52 PM

saw it in London - enjoyed it. would definitely recommend it.

amelia Apr 13th, 2004 01:24 PM

Andrew Lloyd Weber didn't write any of the songs--he was a producer. Fountain scene is still in the play--it's fabulous! In fact, most of the chorus scenes are stunning.

JaneB Apr 13th, 2004 01:58 PM

I saw it in London in November and enjoyed it more than Mama Mia, (which I had been particularly excited about going to see).

Patrick Apr 13th, 2004 03:01 PM

Howard, yes, I saw that Barbara Cook is "returning" but not extending. Unfortunately her last regular performance is April 18, the afternoon before we arrive. And then she doesn't perform until June 1 -- and I'm leaving in May.

HowardR Apr 13th, 2004 03:11 PM

Too bad, Patrick. It's really a great concert. Well, you can buy the CD when it comes out.

Elizabeth Apr 13th, 2004 06:20 PM

I listened to the whole soundtrack again this morning. There is actually not one song in the high-pitched singing style of some Bollywood movie music (for example, the voices of Lata Mangeshkar or Asha Bhosle. Nothing at all like this in show).

The female voices are in the regular Western range, male and female solos are sung by people with standard (i.e. excellent, strong, fresh) musical-comedy kinds of voices.

As others have noted Andrew Lloyd Weber did not write the music, so insofar as one expects to dislike his work, that expectation is not relevant here.

It is instead first-class fantastic Indian popular music, by A.R. Rahman, who wrote the music for, for example, Dil Se and, I think, Bombay, the great Mani Ratnam Indian movies. To anyone who knows his work - Bombay Dreams reprises Chaiya Chaiya (song sung atop a moving train in Dil Se), with new words.

MFNYC Apr 19th, 2004 04:26 AM

There's an article in the NY Times about how they are making drastic revisions to this show for Broadway. Apparently Andrew L Weber is so impressed with the updated that he's closing the current London production and will re-open in Juen with the changes that were made for the Broadway opening. Personally, I also received the preview CD and I was not overly impressed by the music, but than again, sometimes when the music is associated with an actual production with a story and meaningful characters, it starts sounding a lot better.

NYCFoodSnob Apr 19th, 2004 04:53 AM

MFNYC is correct and the "buzz" on this show is very exciting, particularly due to Lloyd Weber's actions. The NY Times pretty much tells the story.

I'm seeing this show tomorrow night. I'll report back.

ziggy Apr 19th, 2004 07:49 PM


You can go to this site: http://www.bombaydreamsonbroadway.com/ Click on "music clips" and sample some ot the show's songs.



Beth_R Apr 20th, 2004 01:15 PM

We have four kids, boys ages 11 and 10, and twin 5 year old girls. The girls are adopted from India and LOVE Indian music, dress etc. Would this show be appropriate for kids this young? They are good in theatres, but I don't want to push it if it isn't really for kids.

HowardR Apr 20th, 2004 01:20 PM

I think 5 is a little young for Broadway theater. It's expecting a lot for them to sit still for 2 1/2 to 3 hours. Their love of Indian music, costumes, etc., will only keep them interested for just so long.

NYCFoodSnob Apr 20th, 2004 08:07 PM

When talented people work so hard at something they love, it pains me when I can't enjoy the effort. What on earth were these creators thinking?

I'm still stunned by this theater experience and words escape me, which isn't typical for me.

The easiest way to describe Bombay Dreams ("nightmares" is a more appropriate word) is to imagine a kind of Sunset Boulevard (with the diva but without all those steps in a mansion) meets Les Miz, mixed in with a little Punjab-style Riverdance, and even a little Miss Saigon but, instead of the helicopter, you get Philadelphia waterfalls and a demolition crane. I kid you not.

The story (if that's what you can call it) is poor boy meets aspiring feminist film director who's engaged to evil, scheming lawyer (think Rent). Sparks fly and poor boy suddenly finds himself a movie star, taking all his cues from the diva-of-Bollywood, betraying his roots, his post-op transsexual friend, and his granny, and wallows in shallow riches while pining for the feminist film director. After newly rich boy discovers scheming laywer is about to demolish shanty town home, rich boy gets an epiphany and comes to the rescue, offering autographs to the demolition men and saves the day and the slum. Then rich boy runs to wedding of feminist film director and scheming lawyer (think The Graduate) and blows scheming lawyer's cover and gets the girl. What on earth has Andrew Lloyd Weber been smoking?

There are some interesting theatrical moments in Bombay Dreams but too few to sustain an entire evening. I walked away feeling empty and used, threatening to never eat chutney again. Others simply walked out at intermission. The music tries hard to please but don't expect to be humming any tunes unless Hindustani is your native tongue.

HowardR Apr 21st, 2004 06:38 AM

Oh NYCFS, egads, how sad to read your review! I should have trusted my insticts. Damn, if only we hadn't bought tickets after those relatives from the hinterlands told us they were coming in June. But fear not, NYCFS, I won't shoot the messenger!

GoTravel Apr 21st, 2004 06:45 AM

I digress but reading this thread made me think. The last show I saw in London was Starlight Express. I think it was in 1985.

MFNYC Apr 30th, 2004 09:49 AM

This did not get a favorable review in the NY Times today. They kind of agreed with NYCFS!

bugswife1 Apr 30th, 2004 12:31 PM

Oh crap. Now I have 2 turkeys in 1 week. We have Prymate on a Tuesday and Bombay on that Thursday. One can only hope for a stomach flu.

HowardR Apr 30th, 2004 01:47 PM

Let's not totally despair. There were a few things the Times liked! But then again, since our tickets are for June 12...maybe it'll close by then and I'll get my money back!

Patrick May 1st, 2004 05:26 AM

I must laugh at the comment above about AL Weber being so impressed with the changes in NYC that he's closing the London production and reopening with the new one. The London production has been only partially filling with half price tickets for the better part of a year and was due to close soon. This sounds like his ploy to "reopen" as a new production and sell more seats -- that's all. Meanwhile, I have my tickets for the London production (half price) in a couple weeks.

Elizabeth May 22nd, 2004 01:23 PM

Ok: I saw it in London, and I saw it again here in New York last night.

The script changes I recognized for the most part provide a bit more explanation of Bollywood, which I think it probably necessary in America where very few people I meet know anything much about it. (Non-South Asian British people know a bit more in my experience, though seldom can name films, songs, or stars.)

I still recommend it as satisying entertainment. Many super-deligthful musical numbers, with the additional pleasure of their being unique to the Broadway stage. Many song and dance routines rock, and the costumery is brilliantly exotic and colorful.

And a fine and amusing introduction, if one is needed, to many of the enchanting features of the Indian musical movie tradition.

The audience (in a full house) last night was enthusiastic and appealing - about a third South Asian, the rest looking to me mostly like New Yorkers.

It's a good show for something new in the way of musical entertainment; also if you have South Asian friends and colleagues way to get a hit of their entertainment culture; and, worth noting, definitely ok for kids I think, 12 and up at any rate.

As a lover of Indian culture, high and popular both, I am hoping that preconceptions won't keep people away form this. Again: the "high pitched irritating sound" mentioned by someone here not only is not present in all songs, it is 100% not present at all in the show.


Patrick May 25th, 2004 02:18 PM

OK, so I finally saw Bombay Dreams in London. Yea, it was entertaining. But probably the worst premise for a story ever. We are to believe that this kid breaks onto the stage of an internationally televised Miss World Pagent and takes over the stage. The cameras focus on him and no one removes him from the stage. Poof. They decide to make him a star. Next scene, he's filming a movie and can't sing, can't dance, and deliberately pushes the big star out of his way. He is totally impossible, yet we are supposed to believe that after a three minute pep talk from an assistant director, he suddenly understands what it is all about and can suddenly act and sing and remember his steps, and stops goofing off. And that's only the beginning. I can accept "trite" in a musical, but what I can't accept is total "stupidity" which is what this is. OK, so the musical numbers are fun and it is still a fun evening of theatre. And while I'll admit many musicals aren't necessarily believeable, this one didn't have a single thing that happened that was within the realm of possibility.

Just my personal opinion, of course.

2travelbugs May 25th, 2004 04:48 PM

Thats what bollywood movies are supposed to be ... an over-exaggeration of life. People who watch Bombay Dreams need to have some background on Indian style movies to really enjoy the show!!

Patrick May 26th, 2004 01:56 PM

I know what Bollywood films are. Over exaggeration I could take, but total stupidity was something else again. I repeat. How are we supposed to identify with a character who supposedly has wanted his whole life to be a Bollywood star and when he gets his chance to do so, he actually deliberately keeps making a fool of himself on camera? How can we believe that he really doesn't even want to make a good impression? But, maybe that's been corrected in the Broadway version. I was mentioning my thoughts on the show to a Londoner one day in the TKTS line, and he said that my comments pretty much echoed exactly what nearly every critic had said about the London production. But I was making those comments without the benefit of ever having read a London review, so it's hard to imagine that I'm that far off base.

HowardR Jun 12th, 2004 04:57 AM

Our three words to describe Bombay Dreams: Hokey, hokey, hokey!
Not the worst thing we've ever seen, but certainly not the best!

mclaurie Jun 12th, 2004 06:01 AM

Thanks for saving me money Howard!

What do you think about Frogs? Never saw it the first time around.

HowardR Jun 12th, 2004 07:32 PM

McLaurie, since we're subscribers to Lincoln Center Theater this year, we got our choice of seats last month. And, since we're great fans of Stephen Sondheim and Nathan Lane, we have high hopes.
(Incidentally, joining its subscription program is a great bargain. It's only $40 a year per person. Our tickets for The Frogs alone saved us more than the $40 each. For the four shows--The Frogs, Henry IV, King Lear and Barbara Cook--being members saved us at least $140 each, maybe more during the year. The new subscription year starts July 1. For info, call 212-239-6277.)


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