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Jan 10th, 2003, 01:48 PM
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Sara: I *HOPE* BiddingForTravel.com is getting paid when people bid using their links!!! Why does that seem so evil to you? Do you not understand how free websites are funded? Do you want the admins of BFT to pay to keep this free site up out of their own pockets (in addition to all the time they spend maintaining/administering the site)? Or do you just not like BiddingForTravel and want them to go away?

And you still haven't provided a *SPECIFIC* example of where the "administrator" (presumably Sheryl) told someone to bid too high. Please don't give a generality - tell us SPECIFICALLY the circumstances. What star level, which city and zone, how soon before checkin, which dates? Which properties on the Priceline hotel list that were likely to come up were available for less money than the bidder was told to bid? Please list the best rates and properties for specific dates - that's what Sheryl always tells people to do.

If anything, Sheryl chastises people for bidding too HIGH. She's always praising people who get the best rock-bottom deals on rooms. I can dig up lots of examples of these from BFT if you want.

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Jan 10th, 2003, 02:49 PM
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Interesting post. I think the key is "do your homework and then do your own bidding."

Andrew, I'm a little confused. You say in one post that BFT doesn't get a kick back, then later you say with the utmost of certaintiy that they do get paid when people bid through thier link. . . . I guess you have realized what's going on over there?

I think it fairly clear that the BFT people get paid when people bid their link, I don't think they tell people to bid the just for the heck of it.

I'm with ronald ([email protected]), I always check out the winning bids on BFT and then place my own bid thru priceline. The fun part is THEN posting my results on BFT and have the Admin. tell me how wrong it was of me to do my own bidding.
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 03:12 PM
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xxx if you agree with PL's rating system then you haven't stayed in ANY world class hotels.
Go stay at the Four Seasons Big Island or Four Seasons NYC then come back and tell me how those two are only slightly better than some gray, dingy Hilton.

Better yet, why don't you tell us what 5 star hotels you've stayed in, and what it is that makes a hotel 5 stars. Then we'd have some common ground for discussion.
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 03:26 PM
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There's no reason to become snippy about it Jugular. FYI I've sated at the 4S BI 2times, The Orchid at Mauna Lani, BI Prince hotel. Maui 4S, the Kapaua Bay. The Lanesboro & Browns in London. Ritz Carlton in Atlanta and in other cities I can't remember. Mostly every upscale in San Diego and San Fran. Loews Miami, Mandarin Oriental and Ihilani in Oahu. Sheraton Chicago, I could go on and on. Sorry, I don't stay at the Hilton. Stayed at the J.W. Marriott in DC and on Coronado Island through Priceline. Gaylord Palms coming up through Priceline. These hotel are by no means "dingy" and I like the fact that I paid 1/3 of the price everyone else paid.
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 03:33 PM
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Fran, a "kickback" in my mind is different than simply getting paid for clicks through your website. A "kickback" has a negative, secretive connotation, as if the people getting the "kickback" were doing so dishonestly. BFT and Sheryl always suggest people use their links to *support* BFT. To me that's an open way to say "BFT gets a little something back if you bid through our links". What ELSE could it mean? And what's wrong with that? You got some benefit, maybe saving tens or hundreds of dollars - why won't you help them out, when it costs *you* nothing? Are you really that stingy?

To those of you who laugh at how clever you are that you use BFT's free website then cut them out of any compensation by NOT using their links: how will you feel if BFT goes away or becomes a pay website? Would you rather pay a few bucks a month instead of using the links - or not have BFT at all? Are you the type who also stiff charities when you take something for free that cost them money, even when they ask for a donation?

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Jan 10th, 2003, 03:37 PM
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I'm not clear, how many of those hotels did you pick up from Priceline,xxx?
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 03:46 PM
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yyy if you read the thread jug. tried to tell me I didn't know what 5 star hotels are. I do not use PL for all hotels but it is an excellent website when you're looking for business or pleasure discounts in many cases.
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 05:24 PM
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Andrew you are very defensive & a little "high strung" do you work for the bft people? . . .just curious
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 07:01 PM
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I've used PL twice at the last minute. The hotels were fine and we were treated as regular guests. I don't go thru BFT because it is a pain to register!
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 07:25 PM
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Been There: you do not need to register to use the links on BFT. You need to register (with ezboard.com) only if you want to post on the board. I don't think it's too hard to register myself.

Abc: you seem a little reactionary. Do you work for the "Hotwire people"? Just curious. I have no evidence, but I thought I'd throw out the accusation anyway.

Andrew
 
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Jan 10th, 2003, 09:33 PM
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Jugular it really doesn't matter to me but my main point is that there are good hotel finds on Priceline. For example, I just got the Sheraton Bal Harbor for $115 when the lowest availible rack rate for a Miami sold out convention date was $400. There are many deals to be had on Priceline and I do think some of the choices are quite nice. Just like everything else, it takes a lot of rsearch.
 
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Jan 11th, 2003, 07:05 AM
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Anon: Two weeks ago I stayed at a "destination hotel" using priceline - it was the Hyatt Coconut Point, Bonita Springs, Florida, $55 plus tax, a brand new hotel with spa and all the amenities of the best 4 star. I do agree that there aren't any 5 stars through Priceline (or only a handful in the whole country). But you can definitely enjoy luxury...also got the Wyndham Bel Age in LA, and the Wyndham International Drive in Orlando, neither a "destination" but solid 4 stars nonetheless. I too use BFT, and why not click through? I never would've bid so low for the Hyatt -- their best price is $179, but BFT saved me over $100 -- why not give a little love back by clicking through?

To Jugular: I don't see the anger and hostility that you accuse Andrew of...a little annoyed perhaps, because he's had to repeat himself, but he comes across as informed and helpful.

To Andrew: I agree with you 100%. Keep up the good advice.

To John: That's a great idea...I'll try it next time! Thanks!
 
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Jan 11th, 2003, 12:35 PM
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I got the Westin La Cantera Resort in San Antonio for $50/night through Priceline. It's not a 5*, but it's the only 4* in the ExxonMobil ratings for San Antonio--the highest rated hotel in town. It was ranked #2 on the "Top 30 Resorts in North America" and among the "Top 50 Golf Resorts in the U.S." by Conde Nast Traveler magazine.

If someone wants to show me how to get this place for less than $50/night, I'm all ears.
 
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Jan 11th, 2003, 01:41 PM
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I asked for 4* bidding advice for NYC last year (filled out all the necessary info about rates, zones, dates, etc.) and stated that I wanted to try to get the room for $60-$75. The "administrator" basically told me I had a snowballs' chance in you-know-where and pretty much told me I had no idea how much hotels rooms in NYC cost (sorry, but I am very much aware, which is why I was using priceline). Anyway, she wanted me to start bidding at $95 and increase each bid by $10. Yeah, right. I went to place and after a few tries, hit the 4* "W" Midtown east for $67/night. BFT can keep their advice.
 
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