Are You On Uncle Sam's No Fly List?
Apr 6th, 2004, 06:20 AM
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Are You On Uncle Sam's No Fly List?
Apr 6th, 2004, 07:43 AM
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While I don't disagree that the handling of the no-fly list has been poorly executed, we can't be blind to the fact that it is no longer September 10, 2001.
The problem with the list is that mistakes like this, divert focus away from serious flaws in airline security. Resources will be diverted from real issues to something like the list that essentially has limited practical value.
That said, having a methodology to determine potential problems isn't irrational. The old days of "CODE", the only training I received while working for two airlines in the late '80s, has clearly passed. The bottom line is we need to have a way of identifying potential problems that is more sophisticated than "did you pack your own bag."
BTW, CODE stands for Cash, One-Way, Difficulty with English. We were told took view that as the sign of a potential threat.
The problem with the list is that mistakes like this, divert focus away from serious flaws in airline security. Resources will be diverted from real issues to something like the list that essentially has limited practical value.
That said, having a methodology to determine potential problems isn't irrational. The old days of "CODE", the only training I received while working for two airlines in the late '80s, has clearly passed. The bottom line is we need to have a way of identifying potential problems that is more sophisticated than "did you pack your own bag."
BTW, CODE stands for Cash, One-Way, Difficulty with English. We were told took view that as the sign of a potential threat.
Apr 6th, 2004, 08:42 AM
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Unfortunately, the old days of racial profiling for terror suspects are long gone, thanks to PC'ness. So, the feds have to get more, ahem, creative. Of course, there will be occasional errors made, as these ladies discovered.
I'm looking forward to the start-up of TSA allowing frequent flyers to pay a little cash and have a background check done in advance to be cleared through airport security more quickly.
I'm looking forward to the start-up of TSA allowing frequent flyers to pay a little cash and have a background check done in advance to be cleared through airport security more quickly.
Apr 6th, 2004, 08:58 AM
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That is a scary article! I feel bad for anyone of color flying today, especially if you appear middle eastern. It's hard. I saw on the news a man who has the same name as someone on the list, but he is not a terrorist, just a regular American citizen. Needless to say, he has a little trouble flying anyplace!
It appears that even the Iraqis in their new constitution will have more rights than us...Article 15 states, ?No one may be unlawfully arrested or detained, and no one may be detained by reason of political or religious beliefs.? I guess what amazes me is that the conservative Republicans claim to believe in smaller government...
It appears that even the Iraqis in their new constitution will have more rights than us...Article 15 states, ?No one may be unlawfully arrested or detained, and no one may be detained by reason of political or religious beliefs.? I guess what amazes me is that the conservative Republicans claim to believe in smaller government...
Apr 6th, 2004, 09:55 AM
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If one person gets thru' and causes a disaster-are all the people going to say'oops-sorry'
I don't think so, then we will have to blame someone and then have Congressional hearings,onandon.
Do it right from the beginning-there are people that have publicly stated many times that they want to kill us-who is going to be the one to let them thru the gate if they have a doubt.?
I don't think so, then we will have to blame someone and then have Congressional hearings,onandon.
Do it right from the beginning-there are people that have publicly stated many times that they want to kill us-who is going to be the one to let them thru the gate if they have a doubt.?
Apr 6th, 2004, 10:04 AM
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And why would a terrorist, hell-bent on becoming a martyr, getting his 72 virgins, and knowledgable of the "1-way ticket" automatically making you suspicious not just buy round trip tickets? (woops! I now might be blacklisted!)
Apr 6th, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Similar story, and ACLU's involvement:
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...y_x.htm?csp=28
Maybe this is a tactic to "pursuade" people to signup (and PAY) to be a "Trusted Flyer" ??
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...y_x.htm?csp=28
Maybe this is a tactic to "pursuade" people to signup (and PAY) to be a "Trusted Flyer" ??
