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Annabel Jun 24th, 2005 05:31 AM

elaine...don't understand the question?

PamSF Jun 28th, 2005 06:33 AM

Talor dear~ two rules 1)never drink cheap champagne 2) don't be a troll or you will eventually get caught.

Scarlett Jun 28th, 2005 06:41 AM

Hi Pam~
Perhaps a characteristic of a Troll or in this case, Trollette, would be that they always drink Cheap Champagne?

mm Jun 28th, 2005 07:33 AM

Please, please, please for the 1,000th time, would the self-appointed and self-righteous Troll-Detecters shut the f**k up.

Whew. I feel better now.

mm

Scarlett Jun 28th, 2005 07:56 AM

That's what it takes to make you feel better, mm?

starrsville Jun 28th, 2005 08:50 AM

I think mm is irritated by all the crumbs in her seat at Letterman.

Veuve Clicquot was served at a brunch this weekend and while I found it yummy I don't think a newbie (wanted to say virgin) champagne drinker would enjoy it. I had several glasses but many present were opting for mimosas.

Which, by the way, reminds me that the mimosa trees are absolutely gorgeous right now. There is one in the hotel parking lot that is stunning. (There. Made it travel related - and it's true).

mm Jun 28th, 2005 09:21 AM

I usually do not require much Scarlet!

You all know what I was getting at. Every once in a while someone writes "Troll!" as if they've uncovered some conspiracy. We've gone over this before. I get irritated because I hate the presumptive and dismissive attitude it projects.

Yo Starrsville, the seats are fine. It's the sticky floor that gets ya.

I recommend a Moet Chandon White Star.

mm

Scarlett Jun 28th, 2005 09:38 AM

<i>&quot;self-appointed and self-righteous Troll-Detecters shut the f**k up.&quot;</i>

Presumptive &amp; dismissive could be applied to this also..
I don't really get it, but I will be sure to beware..and it is spelled Scarlett with 2 t's.

Budman Jun 28th, 2005 09:45 AM

Looks like taylorlane got the &quot;boot.&quot; Disappeared into thin air!!! Is that the sign of a bad troll? ((a)) ((b))

mm Jun 28th, 2005 09:59 AM

&gt;..and it is spelled Scarlett with 2 t's.

Frankly Scarlet I don't give a damn!

Rhet

janis Jun 28th, 2005 10:07 AM

mm: tut tut. I think you owe everyone an apology, potty mouth. Missy taylorlane WAS a troll - she posted 4 identical threads, and then was zapped by the editors. Maybe the &quot;self-appointed and self-righteous Troll-Detecters&quot; can detect trolls because the trolls are soooo obvious . . . . . .

Marilyn Jun 28th, 2005 10:08 AM

Schramsburg. If you want something a tad sweeter but still absolutely delicious, try their Cremant, which is perfect after dinner with dessert. (Champagne -- not just for cocktails!)

mm Jun 28th, 2005 10:10 AM

Actually Scarlett I do care and am sorry for the mistake.

Could not pass up the GWTW reference.

For a sparkling wine I recommend Domaine Chandon Blanc de Noirs. It's from California. Very nice.

mm

mm Jun 28th, 2005 10:24 AM

janis,

I read over a lot of your previous posts and you sure know a lot about everything! I also noticed that most of your posts are of the corrective nature, i.e. 'don't do this' or 'why would you say' blah, blah, blah.

How can you tell if someone got 'zapped by the editors'? You can't. How can you tell if someone is sincere? You can't. It is not possible. Someone could post a recommendation for a restaurant even though the place is a dump. How would you know? Only if you'd been there. Since you can't get into someone's mind (been there) you can't know their motives.

For a cocktail I agree with the recommendation of a Kir Royale. Very nice indeed.

mm



Marilyn Jun 28th, 2005 10:30 AM

If I recall correctly, mm does not believe that trolls exist (despite ample evidence to the contrary).

Fiddle-dee-dee, who gives a damn? We now have a nice thread about champagne.

Scarlett Jun 28th, 2005 10:48 AM

My dog groomer/friend has moved into a new home. I have no idea what kind of wine they like.
Instead of champagne, do you think Prosecco would be fun?

Patrick Jun 28th, 2005 10:52 AM

Scarlet, how about taking the groomer a home made Yorkshire pudding, assuming he/she likes Yorkies?
Or how about a nice bottle of Poodle-Fuisse?

Scarlett Jun 28th, 2005 10:54 AM

Poodle Fuisse it is! She also breeds Poodles ((&amp;))


LOL helplessly~

hsv Jun 28th, 2005 12:21 PM

Leona and rjw,

a Kir Royal (no &quot;e&quot; at the end) is in fact something slightly different: It involves some Creme de Cassis, a French black currant liqueur, but no Chambord.

The recipe follows the same principle, though: 1 part of Creme de Cassis and 9 parts of Champagne.

Apart from that the Chambord recipe sounds quite interesting - might be considerably easier to drink (dangerous indeed ;-) ).

Apart from that, I agree that going with the dry stuff is the way to get started. Those sweet wines and champagnes always tend to cause some headache.

rjw_lgb_ca Jun 28th, 2005 12:42 PM

hsv: Thanks for the clarification. However, I have met others who know of the Kir Royal made with Chambord-- maybe easier to find? One was a bartender, so it sounds like they're learning how to make the drink wrong. It's still pretty darn tasty.

I just remembered that I bought an unusually good Agrapart NV Blanc de Blanc (chardonnay grapes only) for $30 at that champagne tasting. I'm normally strictly a brut sipper, but this was-- and I don't use this word lightly-- delightful. I also picked up an Etienne Dumont Brut for $20 that I liked very much indeed....

To whomever mentioned Bollinger-- thanks, that one slipped my mind entirely. Love that stuff!!


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