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dmbrubaker Aug 20th, 2019 09:03 AM

Another New England Newbie needs help with itinerary
 
Hello! My husband and I are going on our 15th anniversary trip to Boothbay Harbor, ME from October 4-9. We plan to drop the kids off the night before at grandma’s, (!!) and leave very early morning October 4- probably around 5:00 am.- from where we live in Roanoke, VA. The idea is to get in 10-12 hours of driving on day 1, and stop overnight on the way to Boothbay.

Reservations at a cabin there from Sat. the 5-9.

Originally our thought was to head up the Maine coast, stopping in Newburyport MA. However, as we began to look at options, we considered driving north and getting off near Albany NY to head up and around the middle/top of Vermont to catch the Kancamangus Highway on Sat. Morning. (We are aware that it’s possible we were going to run into traffic headed up the Maine coast Saturday morning, and thought we could catch more leaves/small New England towns this way?) Also, it sounds fun to be able to see a bit of VT and NH since we didn’t think we would originally do so.

Probably stopping somewhere in mid-Vermont overnight (Airbnb most likely), catching the Kancamangus Saturday morning, then on to Boothbay for what Google maps says is perhaps around 4-6 hours of driving.

We also considered the Mohawk Trail instead of the Kancamangus, and would like to see the lighthouse at Portland Maine. Had thought to do so sometime Saturday afternoon/eve before we get to our Boothbay cabin.


Our interests:

Scenic drives, (not necessarily off a major beaten path, but the best roads generally on our way to where we are going) beautiful small towns, yummy cider/coffee/bakery stops, catching local flavor in the forms of bread/cheese/etc., fall foliage, and ultimately ending up with enjoying the Maine coastal scenery and food..
The idea is to make the most out of the drive north because once we get to Boothbay we are going into full-on relax mode. We may drive out one day when we are there towards Camden? (Or maybe Portland if we don’t make it ther Saturday) But otherwise, figuring on using that Saturday and some of Friday to enjoy the scenery and New England loveliness.

My question:

Mohawk Trail or Kancamangus? Or is there another recommended route that would give us what we are looking for that would be better?

Are we at a good time for leaves in general?

Is this a good plan for a Friday/Saturday drive?

Will we, in fact, go through the scenic New England towns if we use one of the above mentioned drives?

Any feedback appreciated! Thank you!




J62 Aug 20th, 2019 09:31 AM

That's an excellent time for leaves, all through NY, western MA, VT & NH. Much of Maine is more evergreen forest so the colors tend to be better MA/VT/NH. A Fri / Sat drive will be more crowded than weekday since it's peak leaf peeping season, but except for some congestion as you pass through small towns I think you'll be ok.

We drive to Boothbay a few times a year and personally I don't like the drive across VT/NH. Even though it's more miles we take I90 through Albany, loop around Boston then take I95 up through ME. Since you'll already be in VT & NH your route sounds ok.

Since you'll be in relax mode in BBH I would not try to squeeze in the Portland lighthouse the same day you arrive. Pemaquid (sp?) point lighthouse is not far from BBH, and there are others you can stop & see.

Let me know if you need more info for your week at the cabin.

dmbrubaker Aug 20th, 2019 10:41 AM

Thank you! Appreciate your advice- especially in reference to fall foliage and Portland. We would definitely not have to go the Vermont/NH route, just thought it would be a good option for leaves and small towns. What do you not prefer about the northern route?
We aren’t picky, and we considered taking 95 past Boston etc, just wanted to catch leaves, scenic mountain views, and small New England towns. Open to suggestions and ideas!

J62 Aug 20th, 2019 10:49 AM

The route across VT/NH is about 40 miles shorter distance and about 30min slower. It's a slower drive with more stopping along the way as you pass through small towns.
I have no interest in sightseeing along the way, just getting to the destination with the least hassle. Six hrs butts in car is already long enough - don't need to add to the misery.

Calabria62 Aug 20th, 2019 11:15 AM

Some things to note:
Foliage time is peak season in N.E. So, you will hit a lot of traffic going north, especially Boston north, on 95. 93 North will be busy too. However, since you mentioned Newburyport, that would be a lovely stop for your overnight on the 4th. It's a lovely historic town, and would be about 3-3.5 hrs from Boothbay. You could visit Plum Island while in NPort, walk the dunes, admire the historic seacaptain homes, and enjoy the town.

Then I'd head right for Boothbay Harbor. Don't miss the Botanical Gardens.

You will see plenty of leaves along the way, and just south of Boothbay is Camden, where you will find Mount Battie. An easy hike, if you like (about an hour up, an hour down) with views of the harbor.

There are plenty of small towns along the coast to stop and visit, an see some color, too.

However, I do understand the draw of the mountains in fall, and they are quite beautiful. With your short amount of time, I suggest you drop Vermont, and do perhaps NH and Maine, or just Maine itself.
The Kangamagus is indeed lovely in NH.

emalloy Aug 20th, 2019 11:29 AM

I would plan to head to Williamstown, MA on day 1. This will put you on MA route 2 which is the Mohawk Trail. Day 2 you can decide if you want to continue on rt 2 east to 495 then 95 N etc. to Boothbay, or to head north on 91 when you get to Greenfield and go into VT a way before going east through NH to get to Boothbay.

Make a reservation soon to stay in/near Williamstown as the lodging fills up during leaf peeping season.

Vttraveler Aug 20th, 2019 12:52 PM

I live in north central VT and that first week of October is usually peak foliage season here. The color peaks farther south a little later and would be considered "mid" in MA. This foliage map for New England gives you some idea of average times for good color
https://newengland.com/seasons/fall/...l-foliage-map/

Vermont does tend to be crowded that first weekend in October so you should definitely get lodging settled if you decide to take that route.

dfrostnh Aug 21st, 2019 02:08 AM

My apologies to J62 but I think the OP needs to figure where they will be during heaviest traffic times. NH I93 and I95 are always heavy during commuting times. Recently at 8:30 am on a Saturday northbound I95 in Seabrook area was already very heavy. It doesn't matter if the speed limit sign says 65. If there's a lot of traffic top speed might be 30.

According to google maps fastest speed might be a little more than 13 hours (using generic Roanoke and Boothbay Harbor) but 14 hrs 25 minutes if going north from Springfield MA via I91 to Brattleboro VT, then Keene to Concord NH and then east to Portsmouth/I95 via Rt 4 (had to drag route because google maps prefers Rt 101). I would avoid the Kancamagus on the weekend. Saturday travel to Boothbay is going to be tricky unless the OP gets an early start. The Keene to Concord NH route from Roanoke is almost 12 hours.

Keene is a great college town with some great restaurants. It might be a good choice for an overnight. Keene to Concord is state highways thru small towns and actually bypassing some. From Rt 202 you can take Rt 127 to Rt 103 thru the villages of Contoocook and Hopkinton NH with a slight detour to Gould Hill Farm for apples, hard cider, etc. (check hours for tastings) Then continue to Concord. Probably one of the most unique air b&bs would be in Loudon NH (look for pastoral farm) which is the Miles Smith Farm which raises Highland cattle. It would be a short detour but not far from getting to Rt 4 going east to Portsmouth/I95. Concord has two great bakeries (Crust and Crumb and Bread and Chocolate) but I think both would be closed in late afternoon. The cleaning fee makes one night at farm pricey. If a hotel is preferred the Marriott at Horseshoe Pond although it backs up to I93 is a beautiful walking area.

This route to Portsmouth takes you thru small towns and then Rt 16 at Dover Point area takes you over bridges, your first glimpse of water, before connecting with I95. Here's a list of popular cider donut places in NH https://www.10best.com/awards/travel...new-hampshire/

But, if you can stand it, getting closer to Boothbay on Friday might be the best idea. We usually fade around 8 hours in the car. I think timing on Friday is going to put you in commuter traffic at some point. Our goal is usually get thru Hartford CT during non-commuting hours. The gamble is also that the longer route will actually be faster due to less traffic. Last June on a Friday we traveled back from Sturbridge MA to Nashua NH after a long lunch and the traffic was horrible taking more than an hour longer (I90 to I495 ). Swore never to do that on a Friday again.

J62 Aug 21st, 2019 06:03 AM

No apology necessary d. Your point about traffic is valid.
We've learned to time our drives to BBH specifically to avoid the traffic pinch points, and don't travel to ME on a Fri or Sat.

Coming from upstate NY the pinch points are Eastward bound
1. I90/I84 merge near Sturbridge. - usually only bad at the end of a holiday weekend.
2. I290 through Worchester & I495 through Lowell - avoid evening rush hour and end of holiday weekend.
3. I95 all through NH to ME border - avoid at all cost on Fri afternoon or summer Saturday except for early am. Generally we've not found issues with that section in the fall, and never in winter.
4. and the final stretch, Rt1 from Brunswick/Bath through Wiscasset - avoid weekends after 11am due pedestrians crossing the road in Wiscasset to get to the Reds. New traffic lights either planned or already completed are supposed to help with this.

We find if we can get past Lowell by early afternoon on a weekday then we have pretty smooth sailing.

clarkgriswold Aug 21st, 2019 09:57 AM

Boothbay is not at all a good central locations for day trips out to see fall foliage. Nice place to stay and explore though.

dmbrubaker Aug 22nd, 2019 10:12 AM

Alright. So we settled on a route and booked a lovely Airbnb for our Friday night stay.
We plan to take 87 north through Albany, and get off on route 7 (Vermont.) Planning to stop in Brownsville/West Windsor overnight, and head north on 91, then to the Kancamagus. The first day will be a bit long, at nearly 12 hours of driving, but will leave around 4-8 hours the next day to do our sightseeing (basic stops wherever we feel like stopping, most likely for food or hopefully cider and baked goods.) Saw that Norwich, VT is on that route, so perhaps a breakfast at King Arthur Flour might be in order..and drive through NH via 112/Fryeburg/Freeport to Boothbay. Possibly may detour through Portland but it’s not a big deal. We may catch it on the way home.
Thank you all for your suggestions- so many things to choose from and ultimately... we are just looking forward to enjoying time alone together and celebrating 15 years! If any of the roads I mention are a bad idea/alternate route that’s better, please say so. Tried to avoid 95/93... know we will likely hit traffic on 112, but at least it’s scenic :).


J62 Aug 22nd, 2019 10:57 AM

Sounds like a good plan.

Rt7 East from Troy to VT is a pretty drive in the fall. One lane each direction over winding roads & rolling hills. You'll take I87 to Exit 23/Albany, then I787 North about 10miles from there to Troy where you'll pick up Rt7. The stretch from Albany to Troy can get backed up evening rush hour weekdays but it's not a long stretch.

The 1st day segment in VT especially the last ~1hr from Manchester to your Airbnb in Brownsville may be a bit tough after dark especially when you're tired. Sunset is ~6:30. An alternative which would add 40 more miles (but no more total driving time) is I87 to I90 to I91 up to Brownsville area. You can make that a game time call - but if you're going to hit that area at dusk/dark anyway the interstate would be an easier drive. Your decision point is Ex21A, about 15mi south of Albany where you'd the NYS Thruway/Berkshire connector east to pick up I90.

You'd still have all of your 2nd day for great sightseeing drives across VT/NH/ME.

dfrostnh Aug 23rd, 2019 01:35 AM

If it's Saturday and you are going thru Norwich - I love King Arthur Flour but the farmers market opens at 9am and it's probably one of the best in New England. There are several prepared food vendors so you could have breakfast there. I usually get a pastry but the website says they have breakfast sandwiches. Norwich Farmers' Market - Home

clarkgriswold Aug 23rd, 2019 10:32 AM

12 hours of driving is not a "bit long", it's exhausting. Ten hours is about my limit, especially if you want so see or do anything at all along the way....like a meal for instance.


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