LOL, neopolitan!

Well, this seems to have become a ranting site for some. Too bad! I will continue to carry on my rolling bag--not because I really want to but for many of the reasons already mentioned. Hope I never run into rude people who don't like carry on bags with wheels or who are prejudiced against older or disabled folks. Most of us will become older or weaker in time.

LOL!

Well then I suppose we wouldn't see Gekko helping someone grab their luggage off the carousel? Surely one wouldn't suggest waiting for a Skycap to help with this chore? - no one would ever leave the airport, lol. I believe there are many more kind and helpful people than the rude. Foolish perhaps, but I won't give up on that belief.

I don't want to keep this alive, but I am hesitant to do too much moving around of OP's items already stowed in an overhead bin, because I never know what they contain, or just how fragile they might be. The transparent bag of t-shirts might be an exception. As an example, I use a high end CPAP machine for my sleep apnea and it travels in a heavy duty balistic nylon bag. The mask is plastic and while sturdy is still breakable. All together it would cost me something like $1,800 to replace the thing. On the outside it looks like a square nylon backpack. I would probably have a stroke if I saw somebody cramming a wheeled carry-on next to it, trying wih all their might to get it to fit. This can all be corrected if people use some discretion with what they carry on, and use the bins closest to their seat.

Oh my, I've seemingly offended the Fodor's Unofficial & Cranky Geriatric Defense League (FUCGDL).

Not my intention.

I'd suggest that the vast majority of travelers would agree with me -- if you can't lift your "carry-on" and it won't fit under your seat, CHECK IT.

Contrary to your selfish beliefs, your time is not more precious than the people's waiting behind you, and you're not oh-so-important that you can't wait for checked luggage.

(Speaking of rude, selfish people who roll massive &quot;carry-ons,&quot; such behavior can result in an over-weighted plane and the bumping of passengers or checked baggage. So the selfish rudeness <i>can</i> be a double-slap in the face of decency and common courtesy.)

An over-weighted plane? I didn't know that could happen. Again, people requiring extra assistance should just board early. They can also wait until everyone else deplanes to receive the same assistance.

I agree with the pre-boarding, certainly.

And, yes, over-weighted planes can happen. It happened to me, Delta flight from Aruba to New York. The plane was over weight. One passenger and quite a bit of checked luggage was removed, including one of my friends' suitcases. The overhead bins were stuffed with large &quot;carry-ons&quot; and a flight attendant commented on how rude it is for passengers not to check big rollers.

I still don't get this point. What do the rollers have to do with the rudeness? A big suitcase is a big suitcase, whether it has rollers or not. Period. The restrictions should be by size and possibly weight -- not because it has rollers. Anyone who seems to think the rollers added to a carry-on sized suitcase makes any real difference needs to study them more closely.

And regardless what anyone tries to defend, I still say it is absurd to suggest that young and physically healthy should be allowed to carryon bigger bags than those who aren't. I have helped dozens of people lift their bags in and out of the bins. I'd never think to suggest &quot;you're too old, if you can't lift it, you shouldn't have brought it with you, even if your life-saving prescriptions and equipment are in it.&quot; How silly.

As a frequent traveler, I have learned the hard way, the art of packing light.

My DH and I not travel carry on only when possible. We bring 2 regulation size suitcases (don't know the exact dimensions but they are the size allowable by the airline) 2 shoulder bags, my purse and a laptop bag. This is the max allowed carry on by the airlines. We have no troouble putting our bags in the overhead, but if we did that is what the Attendants are for. It is their job to help people lift their stuff in and out fo the overhead bins...actually it is a requirement of the job to be able to lift 50 lbs over their head. That is also why they have pre-boarding and then start boarding 30 min before a flight. As annoying as it may be not everyone is travel saavy, reads Fodors, is quick moving or as strong as they used to be or has any common sense. However they are still entitled to carry on as much as the airline allows. Also..not many people know this, but the stuff you buy in the airport does not count as carry on bags so you can cary on the max allowable baggage and still bring on additional shopping bags. I found this out last year when shopping at the Lush store at MCO airport. I can't stand having to wait for luggage, espically when it's real alte and it's been a long flight.

to cmeyer54, I would have done like the other posters, move the shirts, put your bag in and put the shirts on top and slammed the bin shut! it's no big deal, it's sounds like you did not want to be rude but it's ok to shuffel stuff around.

I think it's just that rollers are the most visible offenders.

And the argument about the weak/infirm being limited to checked luggage is starting to smell a lot like the &quot;children should not be allowed to fly w/ ME.&quot; argument. Gekko, have you been over at the airline board lately? :)

Folks- seriously, it's public transportation. None of you business how others pack/look/act! (unless it constitutes as a danger to your well being- and Gekko, usage of rollers does NOT count)

I have no specific problem with rolling bags ... but it's rollers that people stuff full with no knowledge of their weight. They don't know and don't care.

If you can't carry it or put it under your seat, check it.

And stop your selfish whining, for god's sake. It's pitiful.

BUT, it becomes your business, when they slow down the plane.
Personally I dont think anyone should bring carry-on except for a purse/briefcase. And I agree that if you can't lift your bag - youve overpacked. (I will make exception for those with an actual physical handicap - though that does not include plain- obesity).

&lt;Most of us will become older ... in time&gt;

Beats the alternative ;-)

Annabel, the having to lift 50 pounds overhead has nothing to do with carryon luggage and it is not one of the FAs job requirements to stow overhead luggage.

The 50 pound requirement is for emergencies.

Slow down the plane? Ummm...I think bad weather delays are more of a concern.

And it's not just plane &quot;lifting your bag&quot;- overhead bins can be difficult for people to reach (elderly, strained muscle, child, whatever)

&quot;And stop your selfish whining, for god's sake. It's pitiful.&quot;

At last! An intelligent post. Now let's see if we can figure out who's doing the selfish whining.

sorry- PLAIN.

lol, suze!

FAs, correct me if I'm wrong, are there, at least partly, to make the trip better/aid the passengers.

And everyone's overpacked at least once:) And if you haven't....you've never traveled or you've been extremely lucky.

But why not just CHECK IT? If you strained a muscle , or if youre old - why not just check your bag? Why do you NEED a 50lb bag sitting inside the airplane - which you can't get to anyway unless some poor sucker wrestles it out of the bin for you?

Annabel makes a good point - people are entitled to bring on as much as the airline allows. Security or the gate attendant can stop people and ask them to check bags if they are too large.

Moose also makes a good point. I'm 5'1&quot;, and sometimes it can be difficult for me to reach my belongings in the overhead storage bin. This has nothing to do with weight, it can happen if my belongings get pushed to the back of the storage bin.

Stevie-Because, you see, I prefer clean underwear in case my checked luggage is lost. And I refuse to check my camera/laptop. And sometimes it's the only way to get everything on the plane....

Oh, and I'm not going to check my 11 yo. sister's carryon b/c she's too short to reach the overhead bins!

(now, just apply this reasoning to others)

I wonder if this should fall back on the airlines to decide and assign a certain amount of space per flyer to be used at his/her descetion. i.e. a space above one's seat with actual dividers.

This would not only keep traffic moving, but clarify how much room each flyer has ahead.

This would also give the folks whom feel the responsibility of deciding whom should carry what a chance to simply sit back and enjoy the ride.

If, for any reason, you can't get your &quot;carry-on&quot; in the overhead space, CHECK IT or put it under your seat.

Why don't people check bags, steviegene? Because they're rude and selfish -- they're just too important to wait for checked luggage and they don't care about inconveniencing their fellow passengers.

And stop with the &quot;lost luggage lament.&quot; Only a very, very small percentage of luggage is mishandled -- 1% of the 3 billion bags checked in 2005.

You are not too important or too busy to wait for your checked luggage.

I dont have a problem with bringing a SMALL bag on the plane to fit things which you will NEED (ie camera, laptop, or change of undies). But I think the majority of people stuff their entire stash of personal belongings into their &quot;carry-on&quot;..which is just unneccesary.
Also what does an 11 year old need a big carry-on for?

Moose didn't say the 11 year old's carry-on was big, he just pointed out that she was too short to reach the bin. I can relate:-)

She can't reach the overhead bins- it's not that she needs a BIG carryon.

And your majority- I think it's actually a small (but annoying) minority...

And people's needs are different. You don't know, and you have no right to ask.

PLEASE let the poor kid have her big ole carry-on if it keeps her entertained on the long plane ride!

Um, and I'm a she. 5'9, and no weakling:)

ah ha - but she won't be entertained if it's in the overhead bin and she can't reach it or take it down!

I'm finding that it is hard to believe this is an issue.

People can be rude.


The entire flying experience sucks and makes people cranky.


People will have carryons until the airlines forbid it.


Let's all agree to try and make our fellow travelers experience a little easier if possible.

Let me get this straight: passengers with carry-ons that take more than a few seconds to stow them are inconsiderate and selfish, right? And if they're physically unable to lift them into the overhead bin, they're holding everyone up and are therefore inconsiderate and selfish too, right? They should just check those bags and not make everyone wait behind them to board or de-board, right?

How many flights have you been on where the plane was actually delayed because of slow boarding? It's not that the flight is delayed, it's just that some of you don't want to stand there waiting. So why not quit whining about it and just board as they're making the last call for passengers? By then all the slow people are done wasting your time and you can just waltz on and sit down. You don't need to worry about not having enough room for your carry-on, because you've checked everything. And when the plane lands, you don't need to be in a hurry to get off, because you're going to have to sit in baggage claim waiting anyway. Problem solved.

Be a grown-up and have a little more patience instead of acting like you are the only one that matters and no one should dare to get in your way and make you stand in the aisle.

Weasel =D&gt;

Amen, Weasel. It seems it's perfectly OK for someone who gets held up for a few seconds of their valuable time to whine about those interferring with him (as if his time is THAT valuable), but then he gets upset about others whining because they have to wait as much as 45 minutes to get their luggage. Talk about a selfish double standard!

Geez, Gekko, didn't your mother ever teach you that it takes more muscles to frown than to smile? And that you waste more energy and time fuming and huffing and puffing and ranting than you would lending a helping hand to those who need it?
Weasel, amen!

I think Anabel says that a roller, shoulder bag AND her purse or laptop is allowed, but in my experience lately it is ONLY two carry-ons, not the three this adds up to.

I do wish people would stow those wheels back, and not pack the blasted things so full that they are too fat to go into the overhead that way!

I still can't believe that cmeyer, who started this whole thread, wouldn't just re-arrange the bag with the t-shirts to accomodate his bag!

have not been able to read ALL the posts.. but was wondering if EVERYONE on plane brought a 22in. bag to put in overhead.. would they all fit?

Never be surprised about how stupid &amp; selfish people can be ... the center-of-the-universe mentality is pervasive.

If your time is sooo valuable that you can't check the &quot;carry-on&quot; that you're incapable of lifting, then you should be flying in a private plane.

Otherwise, check the bag &amp; enjoy your flight!

I carry on for short trips, check for extended. Wouldn't mind much if they said &quot;underseat stowage only&quot; from here on, IF they could be more efficient about delivering luggage in a timely manner to the announced carousels.
Just wondering: why do kids get to preboard (esp. Southwest!)? Why not let the figity little things get seated AFTER everyone else is seated and out of the way? Then if they need assistance, the FAs are able to offer it. (For Southwest, reserve the last few rows for the number of adults w/kids &quot;requiring&quot; preboarding--bet they wouldn't bother anymore!)

I am one of those who reads each row number. Why, do you think everybody would feel better if I give those slow people flaring glances, or tap them on shoulders, or ask loudly if I can pass them?

It's not that I do it if I can just walk along, only when somebody's blocking my way, and I don't want to spoil my mood by trying to make my way in.

Because of its inability to assign seats like a normal airline, I have never &amp; will never fly Southworst.

I realize that many people don't have a choice, and I feel sorry for them.