bluestar

The rules are easy -- all you have to do is locate the items called "hidden costs" in the picture. Did you spot them all? Can you think of any additional ones that aren't shown?

Enjoy the game!

<b>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/pdf/20070625_essay.pdf</b>


<i>p.s. - please, no cheating or wagering</i>



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Reisender

There is at least one other one. Many of the farmers in Mexico are burning off the algave fields to plant corn since they can make more money from the corn. Thus, the supply of tequila will decrease and of course the price will go up and those of us that like margaritas will have to pay more. Darn it!!

jorr

Very funny. How about the hidden costs in petroleum fuels?

Dependence on foreign oil.

Oil wars in the middle east.

The human and financial cost of waring to secure the supply of the war.

Air pollution, green house gases.

Higher prices at the pump.

Our inability to control our own destiny.

I am sure that you will not be laughing a few years from now when we will need ethanol to keep America running and free.

Jack

Sadly this is true. We already are paying for corn-based fuel, in the form of higher taxes, higher gasoline prices and higher food prices. But to make matters even worse, because of the prodigious amounts of energy and fertilizer used in its cultivation, production and distribution, corn-based ethanol provides little or no net reduction in CO2 over the gasoline it displaces.

Just another one put over on the American people by the environmentalists, Congress and special interests like Archer-Daniel.

Budman

Jack, you're making sense. Are you sure you're not really Budman?

irecommend

Actually Jack (and Budman) the true environmentalists know that ethanol has more energy inputs than outputs and therefore does not make a viable &quot;replacement&quot; to oil. Blame the politicians please. They're the ones who are waving this as next big thing when its just a boondoggle, pork barelling.

jorr

Higher gasoline prices? E-85 is about 40 cents less per gallon! Ethanol has 0 emissions of American blood and creates 0 profits for middle east anti-American interests and terrorism funding. The multi-millionaire bin-Ladin family profited off of us through oil and used it to attack us.

Jack

jorr,
Are you aware that the government is subsidizing the cost of ethanol?

bluestar

Don't you get less miles per gallon with ethanol? Doesn't the manufacturing of it actually cause more pollution because it's so corrosive that it can't be pipelined like regular gasoline but rather has to trucked to destination? Don't the risks of crop failure/drought/long-term climate-change present a new set of energy independence risks?

lynnejoel1015

Jack, if you knew anything, you'd know that real environmentalists are NOT for ethanol- and know the difference.

degas

Yeah Jack. You big know nothing. Even a baby liberal can tell a real greenie from a fake greenie! Next thing you know, you'll be asking Ted Kennedy for permission to build those big, ugly old wind thingamjiggies on Cape cod!

lynnejoel1015

E-85 Ethanol or whatever blend big oil-big auto wants to pull over on us is just a ploy for big profits.

Read &quot;The Omnivore's Dilemma&quot; and &quot;The End of Oil&quot; to learn more about big agriculture and this farce.

travelingmad

@ Jack

The environmentalists are not to be blamed for ethanol, quite the contrary. The car makers and the gas companies prefer the ethanol route and the electric or hybrid one since, with ethanol, they do not have to make investments. Their current engines and processes are fine. Proof of that: President Bush is pro ethanol

travelingmad

I meant &quot;than&quot; the electric or hybrid...

sorry

irecommend

Ive already said the same thing in this thread!