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Pickles86 Apr 9th, 2015 11:36 AM

Where is it that's warm, dry and intellectual?
 
Hi there, I'm looking for places to visit in the hopes of finding a place to live. Could be inside the US or outside.

My two main criteria are:

1) I'm a brainy person - a physicist - so some place that has an intellectual vibe would be nice. Maybe a university town, maybe not.

2) Also, weather affects my health greatly, I don't like cold or intense heat, and dampness/humidity absolutely KILL me, so a semi-desert where the temperature never goes over/under 40-90F would be nice. Or something close to that.

Bonus points if it has a good LGBT community.

Any places come to your minds? Thank you!

MmePerdu Apr 9th, 2015 12:32 PM

As in all things, budget? Do you have plenty to throw at this problem?

Pickles86 Apr 9th, 2015 01:24 PM

Let's say 5K$

MmePerdu Apr 9th, 2015 02:03 PM

No, I meant, if this trip is reconnaissance for the possibility of relocating, what is your budget for, say, buying a house? $250,000? $500,000? $1,000,000+? It makes all the difference to the sorts of places people might suggest, particularly given your somewhat narrow criteria.

suze Apr 9th, 2015 02:37 PM

Welcome to Fodor's forums. I see you're new here. Unfortunately very few people read this Travel Tips branch.

If you have any idea of possible places, you'll want to post on the various Destination Forums (like Europe, United States, etc.) where many more people will see your inquiry.

Pickles86 Apr 9th, 2015 02:59 PM

MmePerdu: Okay, so no more than 1K a month for rent or for a 20 year mortgage. Is that helpful to you? Looking into my crystal ball, sounds like you were going to suggest somewhere in California?

suze Apr 10th, 2015 08:27 AM

Well I love the state of California (place of my birth). It has a helluva lot going for it.

But from your weather requirements I was thinking more of someplace like Arizona or New Mexico.

That said, if you truly can live anywhere, what about Europe? Seems like cities in Italy, Portugal, Spain fit much of what you seek.

MmePerdu Apr 10th, 2015 08:56 AM

I suppose it might depend in large part on the intellectual level of his language skills.

Most, if not all, of AZ & NM would violate one temperature limit or the other. Maybe having a permanent home is the difficulty, moving with the seasons may be the answer, failing some sort of compromise.

NewbE Apr 11th, 2015 08:27 AM

I find myself stumped. All of AZ gets hotter than 90F in the summer except possibly the top of Mt. Lemmon. It is also humid during the (relatively brief) monsoon season. The San Francisco Bay area has a lot to recommend it; perhaps Berkeley or Palo Alto, while certainly not arid, would be dry enough? But they are expensive.

Interesting question. Perhaps moving with the seasons really is the way to go. I look forward to reading more ideas, though.

tomfuller Apr 11th, 2015 12:45 PM

Check out Livermore CA. https://www.llnl.gov/
If that is too expensive, try Albuquerque, NM and the Sandia Lab.
Albuquerque is home to the University of NM. They also have the museum of the Atomic Bomb.

NewbE Apr 11th, 2015 05:32 PM

That's the National Museum of Nuclear Science and History:
http://www.nuclearmuseum.org

MmePerdu Apr 11th, 2015 06:06 PM

I don't think the OP can afford anywhere in the US with his very limiting criteria, especially climate. I also question whether it's actually "intellectual" he seeks. Having worked for physicists at Stanford, I found them, yes, highly intelligent but not what I'd call intellectual, limited to their own field, not expansive in their interests. So I think a more precise definition may be called for.

suze Apr 13th, 2015 08:56 AM

I also thought of San Francisco or Seattle but:
<dampness/humidity absolutely KILL me> eliminates both.

MmePerdu Apr 13th, 2015 09:47 AM

The San Francisco Peninsula is an obvious choice, not damp as parts of SF can be, SLAC at Stanford, but he apparently can't afford it.

He mentions outside the US but doesn't mention language - lots of places with intellectuals but no good if he can't communicate.

Maybe expend some brain power making more money.

DebitNM Apr 19th, 2015 06:52 PM

$1000 a month for living accommodations isn't going to go far in CA. San Diego would fit requirements but not for that prices.

Phoenix is going to be too hot, Tucson might be a bit better. It sure won't be humid -- monsoon season hasn't been arose no for several years; the southwest is having an ongoing drought.

Albuquerque might work, it isn't all that cold in winter, though it does go below your lower limits at night. The days are usually sunny and it feels much warmer as a result. Summers aren't killer hot.

Housing here is reasonable. A fairly tolerant city, we have a big mix of people and LGBT seems to not be an issue here. We are pretty accepting to all.

DebitNM Apr 19th, 2015 06:53 PM

Oh yes, as far as intelligent people -- I'm here.

suze Apr 20th, 2015 11:09 AM

$1000 wouldn't pay rent in Seattle or San Francisco either!

mlgb Apr 22nd, 2015 09:49 AM

Long Beach, CA would probably fit your criteria but that rent is very difficult, even in so-called "bad" neighborhoods.

Unless you are willing to rent only a studio or a room in a share situation.

NewbE Apr 23rd, 2015 08:48 AM

FWIW, I like the idea of Albuquerque. Weather is close to what is desired, cost of living is reasonable, surroundings are beautiful, and it's easy to drive to activities (cultural and outdoor) in Santa Fe and elsewhere. Whether it's "intellectual" enough is hard to say, but I won't mock the request, because we've lived in places that were certainly intellectually dull, and we couldn't wait to leave.


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