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suze Jul 31st, 2016 08:38 AM

You can cut back, a lot!

No need for 5 pair of pants for a 9 day trip. Leave out whichever one you like the least.

You don't need 2 scarves, 2 gloves, 2 tights. 1 of each is plenty.

I'd cut 5 blouses back to 3-4. 3 camisoles, 1-2 is plenty.

Like that... :-)

suze Jul 31st, 2016 08:40 AM

Also I don't like turtleneck sweaters, because you are stuck in them. I prefer a cotton top with a cardigan over it because I feel that's much more versatile.

MmePerdu Jul 31st, 2016 09:26 AM

If my neck is warm, I'm warm, my wintertime mantra at home and traveling. If you have a tee shirt under a turtleneck, you can take it off when necessary. My favorite is a zip-neck lightweight fleece t-neck and I always have one with me, any season, especially in the UK. Under it will most often be what the outdoor clothing industry calls a "base layer" which is just a long-sleeve tee made of wicking material which conveniently also dries quickly (overnight) when rinsed out in the sink.

I'm not speaking about "sweater" t-necks, but lightweight ones. As we all know, the answer is layers, not heavy clothing. Those who spend a lot of time outdoors in all seasons have known this forever and travelers can benefit from the knowledge. Sweaters, other than a light cardigan which can be useful, take up too much space and are the least adaptable garments of all, I think.

Regarding numbers of items, especially undergarments (tights & camis) - one to wear & one to wash.

suze Jul 31st, 2016 09:34 AM

Since she said "turtleneck sweaters" I'm picturing an actual sweater not something lightweight.

My best (most often worn) outfit was a bulky gray oversized sweater and a pair of knit black/white pants with black boots. Add wool coat, gloves, scarf, hat. I was in a city/town not out hiking or anything.

I don't have any special travel clothes like wicking fabrics. Everything I used came from my own normal wardrobe.

BlondeNomad Jul 31st, 2016 04:05 PM

All good suggestions. Thought I'd add one thing: A travel clothesline! I took one with me on my trip through Europe this April "just in case". I can't tell you how many times I ended up using the thing! It allowed me to pack light (I usually overpack, so this was an experiment) and rinse out my close in the hotels. Here's the one I used: https://www.amazon.com/Sun-Sheets-Co...=1&*entries*=0
Loved it!

suze Aug 1st, 2016 07:21 AM

I take a couple plastic hangers in the bottom of my suitcase (instead of a clothesline) same idea :-)

wantgelato Aug 1st, 2016 01:02 PM

Greetings, Folks

First, thank you for helping me. While I'm in the process of scaling down (WAY down! :-) ) my packing list, I do have a question:

What would you take to wear to a show (play) and dinner afterwards, in London? Initially, I was going to do take a black turtleneck sweater and black slacks for this events, but I'm having second thoughts now.

Cheers...

suze Aug 1st, 2016 01:26 PM

That would work. I personally don't like turtleneck sweaters, but if you do, that's OK. Dress it up with some costume jewelry maybe?

I never travel with skirts or dresses, for me it would likely be velvet palazzo pants, sparkly top and cardigan.

MmePerdu Aug 1st, 2016 01:46 PM

Remember those pants I mentioned at top, the just-in-case ones? And a bit dressier jacket? That's where those come in. With a knit top to match the pants and a nice scarf does wonders. I wouldn't have anything sparkly with me and casual, I think would be fine. You don't see much dressing up, in my experience, even in London.

janisj Aug 1st, 2016 02:34 PM

>>What would you take to wear to a show (play) and dinner afterwards, in London? Initially, I was going to do take a black turtleneck sweater and black slacks for this events, but I'm having second thoughts now.<<

You don't need a specific outfit for the theatre. Dark pants and any top/blouse plus a jacket or cardigan. If everything you take mix/matches/layers, then you can decide on the day based on the weather.

I personally do 'dress up' a bit for the theatre but unless it is a special event at the Royal Opera House or something it doesn't require a 'special' outfit. You will see everything from jeans/Dock Martens/t-shirts (and even more casual) to business suits.

janisj Aug 1st, 2016 02:44 PM

I did not type 'Dock' . . . :)

MmePerdu Aug 1st, 2016 03:01 PM

Yes, I agree, "a bit". By casual I mean more business-y than sporty. But not what I'd call evening wear. I share the opinion than better under than over dressed. And because there's a range of possibilities, no need to bring extra things you're likely to only wear once.

suze Aug 2nd, 2016 08:11 AM

By "sparkly" i'm not talking gold lame or sequins, ladies, lol.

Of course it's a matter of personal style but I have 'business casual' cotton tops and cardigans with a bit of metalic or beading or whatever that would work for an evening out to look and feel "dressed up" but still be practical pieces to pack.

MmePerdu Aug 2nd, 2016 08:26 AM

No end of choice - just not all of them!

wantgelato Aug 3rd, 2016 02:42 PM

Greetings, Folks

Here's my revised list:

First-- we will count what I'm wearing on the plane, which is a casual two-pieced sweat outfit (not the kind for the gym), with a camisole (either black or white) underneath. I will also have my reversible rain jacket with me.

MAIN LUGGAGE:
3 pairs of pants (black, navy, and tan khaki). The black pants have a draw string on them and they can be worn casual or be dressed up.

1 black cardigan sweater with matching cardigan shirt (short sleeves), to be dressed up with costumed jewelry, black scarf, and worn with the black pants to the show.

4 blouses to be mixed and matched with the different pants. These are less thick than the blouses I was previously going to take.

1 fleece vest (I've only worn it once, so it's nice to be able to wear it again).

1 thick black scarf (mentioned above)

1 pair of gloves, waterproof

2 pairs of socks

1 pair of tights

2 pairs of walking shows (including what I'll wear on the plane)

1 pair of boots, low heel but high top (I like to tuck my pants in my boots)

Undies (will I need thermal underwear?)

2 bras

Umbrella

2 camisoles (white and black); will be wearing one on plane

Flip flops (to get out of shower); will not bring slippers as previously was

PJ's ( 1 only)

How did I do this time around? The travel clothes line does look interesting.

Cheers...

MmePerdu Aug 3rd, 2016 02:59 PM

I'd add a couple of light-weight (silk) patterned scarves. They make an outfit look entirely different, good when you're getting fed up wearing the same things.

I'd swap the white camisole for a "nude" one. They show less under blouses and can maybe go an extra wearing. I no longer travel with anything white for that reason. Even cream or light tan is better.

Consider a hat that will pack, like a knit one. We lose more heat from our heads than any other way and it takes up almost no space.

I'd bring a light nightgown in addition to the pj's for warm accommodations and the one-to-wear, one-to-wash rule.

No thermal underwear unless they double as pj's.

But it's looking good.

suze Aug 4th, 2016 10:48 AM

Much better!!!!!

One pair of PJs is OK. I don't like nightgowns, and would not feel compelled to wash sleepwear on only a 10-day trip.

I wouldn't add decorative scarves, just because I don't wear them, like them, or have any ;-)

I agree about adding a packable hat.

If you're not taking a skirt, what are the "tights" for?

MmePerdu Aug 4th, 2016 11:33 AM

Obviously, if you don't wear scarves, you won't bring any. I do wear them, at home and even more when I travel, especially in cool weather. They take up no room so are a better space investment than another top you may or may not wear. I find, no matter how little I pack, there are always a couple of things I don't wear.

Regarding PJs, we all have our own preferences and habits.

suze Aug 4th, 2016 12:01 PM

<we all have our own preferences and habits>

Obviously.

And wantgelato seems to be OK with one pair of PJs like she has on her trimmed-down packing list.

Personally I never pack actual night clothes. I prefer yoga pants and a t-shirt that could do multi-duty in a pinch (the unlikely event of a hotel fire drill, running out for morning coffee, etc.).

MmePerdu Aug 4th, 2016 12:29 PM

My nightwear suggestion (for 2 different) really had more to do with temperature in accommodations than washing or not. We now know more than we ever thought we would (or maybe would want to).


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