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crzn1 Oct 25th, 2009 11:34 AM

Trip report- Argentina!!!
 
Sunday 9/20
We arrived at 9ish am on Sunday 9/20 and met our taxi to our Hotel in San Telmo. After checking in and getting settled we walk around the block to the street fair in San Telmo with lots of music and crafts available for sale. Our solution to an early Dinner was a late lunch (seated at 3pm) at a Parrilla 1880, where we had huge steaks. John had the equivalent of a rib eye and I had the nearest thing to filet mignon that they have. We shared and they were both very good. For dessert we shared flan with dulce de leche. (Thanks Dr Dawgy) After returning to our room to relax a bit we decided to go back out to stretch out and have a little look around.. So glad we did, San Telmo really came alive this evening, lots of music, drummers, tango- these people know how to have fun!!!
Monday 9/21
The next morning we took a taxi to the big shopping mall Galleria Pacifica in the city center to get tickets for a Tango show at Centro Cultural Borges and then across the way to Claro to get a sim card for our cell phone. We then walked quite a long way to Plaza Congresso and met a walking tour in English (BA free tours). The tour is free and the guide is paid in tips only. Our guide was informative and funny so we enjoyed it a lot. We walked for 2 1/2 hours with him all around the center of the city and to many historical buildings. There is quite a history here and not all of it pretty. After the tour was over, we had a late lunch at Pizzeria Guerin (also very good) and headed back to our own neighborhood of San Telmo. San Telmo has lots of old crumbly buildings. The area has changed very little because the Yellow Fever outbreak left the area derelict and deserted. No one maintained the buildings but no one tore them down....so many have since been bought and restored. That night we taxied back to Centro Cultural Borges and saw a small tango show. I can best describe this as ' Local Theater' but for u$s10 each it was a good night out. They were good dancers and fun to watch.
Tuesday 9/22
Tuesday morning we slept in late, had breakfast and met a local volunteer guide. It was raining when we met her and she accompanied us to the Recoleta cemetery. We had the place to ourselves with only a few sprinkles of rain. We found it somewhat similar to the Père Lachaise Cemetery in Paris. We saw graves of presidents and military dignitaries and also visited the tomb of Evita Peron. After we had coffee with our guide and then she had to go back to work. The rain had stopped so we walked quite a ways to the Evita Museum. This museum was very interesting and had lots of stuff that Evita had worn or had belonged to her. Many of her speeches were shown on video as well. We also had lunch there, quite good as well. That night we had dinner at El Desnivel, good mix of locals as well as tourists and another good cheap meal, steaks again of course. After eating we went to a Tango Show at La Ventana. I don't think the show could have been any better, Fantastic!!!
Wednesday 9/23 & Thursday 9/24

Today we flew to Iguazu falls, checked into the Sheraton inside the park and walked the upper trails to see the falls, and then took the train to the catwalk (1100 meters of catwalk) to the Garganta de Diablo, Throat of the devil falls. These are the ones that really do dwarf Niagara. Not to belittle Niagara Falls but Iguazu is a whole different ball game. The next morning we headed back to see The Garganta de Diablo but the water level was so high this morning that the catwalk was closed for the first time since 2005. We were hoping there would be good water so the falls would be full and we definitely got it!!!!! Instead we took a boat trip from below the falls up to the bottom of them. We got so close to them that the spume had us completely drenched even though we were in raingear. By the time we had returned from the boat trip, which included about 30 minutes each way in a truck through the jungle, the Garganta was re-opened for viewing. We went and saw Garganta again with better sun so our pictures today are different from yesterday. The wind shifted slightly and brought the mist over to the catwalk and drenched us again. After returning on the train, we had empanadas for lunch and then walked the lower falls catwalk (2500 meters). They are truly amazing from any viewpoint. In addition to the falls, the jungle has a few animals that we have seen. Coaties, which are very similar to our raccoons are everywhere. They have a snout like an anteater but the rest of them are just like a raccoon. They steal backpacks, lunch sacks and picnic foods. We were kind of being stalked by one and a sign says that they can and will bite. We did notice that our stalker was wearing a collar. So much for wild beasts. They also have these giant guinea pig rat things that we cannot remember the name of. (Possibly Capybara‏?) Then there are a variety of pretty birds. They tell us that there are jaguar, ocelot, pumas and other cats but they are mainly nocturnal and stay clear of people.

Friday 9/25

Today flew to Trelew via BA and took a shuttle to the town of Puerto Madryn in Patagonia. We were on the shuttle with two other groups and talked with them on the 40 minute ride. One family was on a one year trip with their two children and they are from France. The other group was two ladies from Buenos Aires. We all ended up in the same restaurant for dinner (El Nautico) so we visited with them all but shared a table with the French Family. That is one of our favorite things about travel....meeting people who also love to travel. Dinner was also very good.
Saturday 9/26
Today we had a guide/driver and two other passengers from Germany. The guide took us 2 hours south from Puerto Madryn to Punto Tombo where there are 1000´s of penguins. The male penguins arrive here the 2nd week in September every year and they come early to refurbish their nests from the prior year. The females arrive two weeks later. As the females arrive, each male calls to his lifelong mate so she can find him. Their calls sound like donkeys braying. Apparently each call is unique to that male. As of today, about one third of the females had arrived. The hills are alive with donkey brays. After the couples are reunited, they have a little rest, do a little dance; the male pats the female until she says ok. You can figure out the rest. Two weeks after the dance thing, the females lay two eggs a week apart. Until they hatch, they share the sitting on the nest duties between them. Good plan.In Punto Tombo, they also have wild Guanacos . These Guanacos are related to Camels and Llamas and look very much like a llama. They run in herds and when the males fight, they actually try to bite off each others testicles. Go figure. When they do this, they run through the penguins and sometimes hurt them or their nests and eggs. Bummer. All of this is fun to watch, however. This was like being in the middle of a National Geographic episode on TV. It was all very amazing. Did we mention it was cold enough for the Guanacos to loose their testicles to frostbite? Also, just for good measure, the wind was blowing like hell. We loved every minute of it.

Sunday 9/27
Today was very busy and started very early in the morning. We began at 8 am in a big van/small bus with 7 other travelers and a driver and a guide. We drove about one hour north from Puerto Madryn to Puerto Pyramids where we spent 2 hours on our whale watching trip. It was wonderful. We had many mother whales with their calves come right up to our boat and do their thing. This type of whale, the Southern Right Whale is very social and extremely curious. They came close to check us out and spent a long time doing it. The water is very clean and clear so you can see them under water as well as when they surface and look at us. We even got sprayed by a blow hole once. That added to the delight of wind and cold temperatures. Good, though. We were in a large boat with lots of people so we went down on the little walkway alongside the deck and we watched from there until we got wet feet from whale waves. We also saw Rheas which looks like a small version of an Ostrich. The rheas run everywhere they go...no fly. We saw the Patagonian hare which is big like a dog and looks like a cross between a kangaroo and our rabbits. We visited a beach where they have Elephant Seals; they were interesting but exactly the same as ours on the Central Coast of California. Then we visited more penguins that have a small but growing colony. It was long day but more than worth it.
Monday 9/28
Today we flew into El Calafate; picked up our rental car, checked into our hotel and headed for the National Park. The weather here is absolutely perfect, much warmer than we expected. We drove into the park and went to the Perito Moreno glacier. We walked and looked at it for the better part of 4 hours. It was very quiet and you could hear the glacier cracking. It sounds like gun shots. We even saw several bits of the glacier break off into the lake. The lake is Lago Argentina, the largest in all of Argentina. We took many, many pictures. After driving back to El Calafate we ate dinner a La Tablita. Excellent!!!! This was our most expensive meal in Argentina-worth it...
Tuesday 9/29
Today, we took our scheduled boat tour for 9 hours. We traveled 200 plus kilometers on the lake which has many channels with the backdrop of the Andes Mountains. We tried to visit the Upsala Glacier but that channel was blocked by icebergs and we could not get through. We checked out these icebergs for a long time---they are really cool. We did get to see Spegazzini Glacier which was amazing. Again, we watched it for a long time and did hear it cracking and see some small bits, like the size of a small VW break off. Then we headed for Perito Moreno. Again we watched for a long time. All of them are fascinating to watch. We never thought watching ice melt could be such a rush.
Wednesday 9/30
Today we got up early, again, and drove back to the Perito Moreno Glacier for our day of Mini Trekking. We took a 20 minute boat ride across a part of Lago Argentina to a point next to the side of the glacier. We hiked for a few minutes to a place where guides strapped crampons onto our hiking boots. At this point we became Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein in the way we walked. Then we stepped onto the Perito Moreno Glacier where we spent the next 1 1/2 hours following a guide who showed us pools, rivers in the glacier, crevasses and ice holes . This was an amazing experience, we did pretty good for old folks. It was quiet except for a little wind and the sound of water. We had glorious weather but by the time we left the glacier a storm was coming in and when we reached the boat to take us back to our car the wind was the strongest we have ever been out in. We are tired as we have kept us a very fast pace and tomorrow morning we fly back to Buenos.
Thursday 10/1
Flew back to BA and checked into our B&B in Palermo, had an easy night, got our laundry done while we had dinner.
Friday 10/2
After breakfast we walked around Palermo Soho and over to the Botanical gardens. We took a Hop on Hop off bus tour of the city during the day - not recommended!! Later that evening we took another "BA free tour" walking tour of Aristocratic Buenos Aires. The city has many faces but all are very interesting. We had a coffee at a cafe that has been in business since 1850 and then took a taxi back to our B & B.
Saturday 10/3
We went to Hippy Market and back to the Recoleta Cemetery to take some pictures in better light. We had lunch at El Sanjuanino good empanadas, and a fun waiter- good time there. We walked a long ways back to our hotel stopping at several parks and also went back to the botanical garden to feed the cats. We spent the rest of the afternoon/ evening resting and catching up on e-mail. That night we ate at La Cabrera Norte-We were very apprehensive about eating here- Did not think it could live up to all the wonderful reviews and I am always leery about so many 1 review postings. Yes we had to wait about 40 minutes even after calling ahead but they bring you champagne, beer and appetizers on the house- no charge! We had an incredible meal ( share 1 meal - I have a big appetite but we barely finished 1 large Bife de Chorizo with no room for desert ) This ended up being cheaper than most places as we usually each have our own entree. Overall an excellent meal with good efficient service, Just with I could go there now...
Sunday 10/4
After breakfast we headed back to the San Telmo street fair to do a little shopping as we are flying home tonight. We had lunch at El Desnivel again, another good steak! Afterwards back to our B&B to pack and relax. At 6pm our remise took us back to the airport for our 9pm flight back to the US. Adios Argentina, we had a remarkable trip...
Thanks to everyone for the wonderful advice, with your help we planned and had an amazing trip with absolutely no problems...

avrooster Oct 25th, 2009 02:08 PM

Thank you for a great report, crzn1!

When should we expect you back?

kodi Oct 25th, 2009 02:12 PM

Excellent report! I loved reading it. do you have a website for the free tours? It sounds like they have a variety of them. I'd love to take some of them.

Thanks for all the detail... oh, do I ever wish the penguins were doing their 'thing' when I go, but they won't be, so I'll skip Pueerto Madryn. I'm glad you got to enjoy them.

How many people were usually on the free tours?

Any other tips on things to do, as far as wandering around markets or neighbourhoods?

avrooster Oct 25th, 2009 03:22 PM

You can read about the free tours here:

http://tinyurl.com/c2d7wr

crzn1 Oct 25th, 2009 03:34 PM

http://www.buenosairesfreetour.com/en/tours.html
We liked the daytime city tour the best, Gaston was our guide with Marca assisting, maybe 25 people. For the evening aristocratic tour Marca was the guide with about 10 people. Both tours were good we just enjoyed the area and topic of the City tour better.

xyz99 Oct 25th, 2009 05:46 PM

crzn1,
Great trip report – Thanks for all the details, seems that you had a great time, and that means we will have a great time next year, when we’re going to take a trip to Argentina, same places as you went. I can’t wait! I have so many questions…hope you can answer some of them.

The day trips from Puerto Madryn – did you have them arranged from home? How did you find the guides? Did you just use a tourist agency in town there, or a travel agent at home?

If you were to stay a third day at Puerto Madryn – would’ve been there something else to do? We’re considering 3 days there, but I’m not sure there would be enough to do.

If you were to do this again, would you consider driving yourself through the Peninsula Valdes? Did you feel rushed with the group? We’re not group fans…but I hear that you cannot rent an automatic in Argentina.

Which airline(s) did you use for the domestic flights? I am having a hard time trying to figure out the order of the places to visit. Did you book the flights yourself or used a travel agent?

Where did you stay in El Calafate? Would you recommend it?
Which company did you use for the boat tour and mini-trekking in El Calafate?
Thanks a lot

crzn1 Oct 25th, 2009 07:55 PM

xyz99
Regarding our time in Puerto Madryn- They are in the process of paving the road to Puerto Pyramids, so if that is completed I would definitely rent a car. As our flight to Trelew arrived in the evening I would rent a car at the airport and stay somewhere in Trelew area and head out first thing in the morning to Punto Tombo, (that road is paved until you reach the reserve) spend the better part of the day and then I would go directly to Puerto Pyramids stay the night and then do the whale watching first thing in the morning (if the winds pick up they suspend the whale watching boats). There seemed to be plenty of places to stay and eat there. We did have a good lunch there but I don't remember the name of the restaurant. Afterwards you could explore the rest of the reserve, more penguins, elephant seals and we talked to people that observed orcas practicing beaching themselves, really sounded exciting but it is not a common sighting. Depending on your flight you might want to stay another night there or perhaps in Puerto Madryn. Puerto Madryn is a nice enough town but it is not a "must see".

In El Calafate we stayed in a double en suite room at the America Del Sur Hostel. I can actually recommend this place. They are extremely helpful and made the bookings for us for the boat tour and mini-trekking. We had them make the reservations without transportation as we had a rental car. At first we felt a little out of place as we were the older crowd as we are in our mid fifties but we did enjoy the place and the "kids" that run it. It's very simple to drive to the different places in the park as the main street leads you out of town with signposts to the places you want to go. The only problem we had was finding our hostel as El Calafate does not have street signs but we found the TI en route and they gave us turn by turn directions. After that we didn't have any problems, very simple.
We booked our domestic flights with Aerolineas Argentinas web site http://www.aerolineas.com.ar/home.asp We then had to follow up on the telephone to pay. Out of 5 flights, 4 were either early or on time and 1 was about 15 minutes late. You can verify your flight at https://www.virtuallythere.com Just enter your booking code and name. This was very reassuring as we made a few changes after we purchased our tickets and this verified the change. We were told we would have to pay for the change fees at the airport but we were never charged. Just a wink from the airline check in desk, and no worries! I hope this helps, ARGENTINA is awesome!!!

owlwoman Oct 26th, 2009 05:06 AM

Nice report, enjoyed reading!

Stephany Oct 26th, 2009 07:25 AM

crzn1,

Just one question. Would you have managed in El Calafate without speaking ANY Spanish? I am getting cold feet and perhaps should postpone our trip, now planed for Dec., until March and take a few Spanish lessons first. Makes sense to me.

owlwoman Oct 26th, 2009 08:28 AM

Stephany, we don't speak Spanish and stayed in El Calafate back in March, you'll be fine....it's a pretty touristy town with many people who speak English.

xyz99 Oct 26th, 2009 10:36 AM

crzn1,
Thanks for taking the time to answer all the questions. Good to know you had no problems with Aerolineas, their reputation is not great here.

If you had to decide for one place to stay, would you pick Puerto Madryn or Puerto Pyramides? We don’t like to move too much…

Stephany,
I hope one can manage all the areas listed in this report without knowing any more Spanish than “Hola” and “Gracias”. That’s pretty much my Spanish vocabulary, and I hope it will do :)

avrooster Oct 26th, 2009 10:54 AM

Stephany: El Calafate is the most, or one of the most touristy places in Argentina.

I would imagine you should be able to manage without any Spanish.

Have a great time in our country.

Stephany Oct 26th, 2009 01:53 PM

I am not sure why I zoomed on El Catafe..a perfectly dumb question to begin with. It is just that I am insecure about not knowing the language.
The trip reports posted here are extremely helpful and clarify most questions I've had about visiting the glaciers. Thank you all for posting them. So, now onto San Carlos de Bariloche…

crzn1 Oct 26th, 2009 07:36 PM

Stephany- Please don't let language deter you, we have traveled all over the world and don't speak the language in most places. With a few simple words and a smile you will be fine. My Spanish vocabulary is about as extensive as yours. You will be surprised how many people will be willing to help translate or speak their basic English.

crzn1 Oct 26th, 2009 07:46 PM

xyz99
Hi, we also don’t like to move around that much but the distances are pretty far for the top sights in this area. Do you know what time of day you will arrive? Will you fly to Trelew or Puerto Madryn? Are you going to rent a car?

xyz99 Oct 27th, 2009 06:30 AM

crzn1,
This is why I love this site – I didn’t even know you could fly into P.Madryn. Given a choice, I think we would pick this one.
But we are going next November (2010), so no idea yet about the time of the day we would arrive.
We would probably rent a car, if we can rent an automatic. If not, we’ll try a private driver or a regular bus tour.
Thanks

not_enuf_vaca Oct 27th, 2009 08:11 AM

Hand gestures, a phrase book and a big smile will go far.

crzn1 Oct 27th, 2009 09:01 PM

xyz99
Andes airline and LADE (Líneas Aéreas del Estado) both have flights to Puerto Madryn. None of them had flights that would fit into my itinerary. I don’t have any idea if you can find a car with an automatic, we usually rent stick shifts.
I would opt to stay in Puerto Pyramides but it is remote and a long way from to Punto Tombo. I still think you should consider the first night near Trelew and visit Punto Tombo, then head to Puerto Pyramides for the remainder of your stay. You could stop in route to have a glimpse of Puerto Madryn.

avrooster Oct 28th, 2009 01:02 AM

There are very few cars with automatic gears available for rental in Argentina and they are extremely expensive.

Have a great time in our country.

Stephany Oct 28th, 2009 03:50 PM

Thank you all for your encouragement. I’ve made up my mind and am going to enroll to a Spanish class for about three months. Can I learn Spanish well enough to speak it? Of course not.. but at least I will understand the very basics. I hope. Thank you, again, for your support.


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