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Comments on itinerary please!! 8 wks, Peru Argentina Chile


Jul 11th, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Comments on itinerary please!! 8 wks, Peru Argentina Chile

Hello, I am looking for commentary on the following planned itinerary.

We do NOT want to rush..

September first and second weeks - Peru -- Philadelphia to Peru, study 2 weeks Amauta Spanish School (increasing my fluency for my job), with weekend trip Lake Titicata
September week three - Macchu Picchu (arrange when I get there) and checking out the area
September week four, October week one -- Fly to Buenos Aires, one week Amauta Spanish school, one week exploring (side trip to Uruguary?)

October week two and three -- BA to Patagonia, Chile - My husband arrives, and as he is an avid fly fisherman, we are seeking TROUT and relaxation for two weeks. He does not like to travel quickly. I understand that trout season starts in October in the Patagonia/Lakes region.
So, a couple of days in BA, then fly to Patagonia (where? which city? haven't figured that), and find some RELATIVELY low cost fly fishing lodge where we can hang out and possibly do a cruise to the Torres natl park.

October week four --
Then we both fly to Santiago, and he will fly back to USA. I will be staying for another week, with probably a trip to Mendoza (over the pass) or perhaps just explore around Santiago. Then --.Fly back to Phila

Any thoughts?
any comment appreciated
In particular, please tell me if this is too much.
The goal of this trip is to improve my Spanish, see gorgeous scenery (hike/kayak if possible), immerse myself in culture/art/architecture, visit as many small towns (not cities) as possible. Also bird watching and trout fishing for my husband.

Cost is a consideration, so I have not considered doing this with a tour group, but rather doing it independently and hopefully cheaper. Except in Chile --In particular I am concerned whether it is possible to book a cheap (but good) tour/cruise/bus trip etc of Patagonia/Torres? Do that now or wait till I get there?

One final consideration -- is it insane to go to this area in October? Especially for the trout - is it too early? will it be freaking cold the whole time (not that we mind cold)

As you can see, I am scheduling this rather late so I will have to commit very soon.
many thanks in advance
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Jul 13th, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Hi, I have been to Peru, Chile and Argentina. Best time for Patagonia, of course is Dec-March unless you are going for skiing but we were in the Argentine lake district in late October or early Nov, I can't remember which and it was cool but not impossible. There was some snow at higher elevations of the mountains and we did get a bit of rain but it didn't really effect our trip. We were able to take some drives and even went horseback riding. I don't fish but while we were there, we heard that Lago Traful in Argentina was a fishing paradise so I would imagine that you could fairly easily find fishing oriented trips in that area. Supposedly they had an enormous variety of fish there. We saw the lake which was beautiful and much less developed than some. Just one miniscule town. You would fly into Bariloche and then drive there- not very far. Bariloche is a big ski resort area, very touristy and developed. I don't personally like that sort of thing but it is a popular area which many other people like. We stayed across the lake in a much smaller town called Villa la Angostura which was much nicer but, again, really a ski resort area. The hotel we stayed at was outside this town, off by itself and very beautiful (also very expensive) with great food but while I loved the hotel, I wouldn't have wanted to stay in the town itself. It is like all ski resort towns-you might as well be at Lake Tahoe or Aspen or Park City.
The Chilean lake district is much less developed but I don't know about fishing. We stayed in Puerto Varas Chile as a base 11 yrs ago, a cute German town with tourist accommodations. You would have to fly to Puerto Montt, a larger city and then drive about 1-2 hrs as I remember to get there-many volcanos, lakes, rivers, very small towns and national parks in this area. Very easy to take day trips and drive around from there. It is also possible to take a 2 day sail from Bariloche across the Andes into Chile. We didn't do this but it is supposed to be nice. We did take a day boat on the lake and it was beautiful. Another thought, we went horse back riding on a ranch outside Bariloche which was great fun and they rented cabins- I don't know how much but it was a beautiful old property. Sorry, I don't remember the name.
Torres del Paine is inland. There are boat trips up the fjord to the edge of the park or you can easily drive or catch a bus or tour from Puerto Natales, Chile to get there. We stayed in Torres del Paine at the Hosteria los Torres for 5 days 11 yrs ago which has many excursions. Not sure about fishing. You might also consider what we did 11 yrs ago. We booked a cabin on the Navimag, a freighter which went from Puerto Montt to Puerto Natales through the fjords. I believe that it took 3 1/2 days and was a really fun way to go south after the Lake District to see Torres del Paine.
Further south in Argentina in Los Glacieres area there are a number of ranches scattered around the area where fishing might be possible. You would have to check. I know people talked about salmon fishing. That area is remote and gorgeous as long as you stay outside of El Calafate which, although a nice tourist town, is a tourist town. Up near El Chalten/Fitz Roy it is lower key but the weather in that area is supposed to be more severe so I am not sure you could go at the time you are planning. It also looks quite similar to Torres del Paine in terms of the rock formations-
We planned our trips ourselves-we have been to Patagonia 3 times for a total of about 6 weeks. Really easy to do online. Everyone pretty much speaks English in these tourist areas. We didn't go on a tour, we rented cars and drove around. If you stay in a hotel in Torres del Paine, you can usually arrange pickup at El Calafate, Punta Arenas or Puerto Natales through your hotel. If they don't do that, there are also many buses We have taken them as well. Easy to arrange. The roads are much better now than when we went 11 yrs ago. Then, they were mostly unpaved with almost no cars which was kind of scary at times. The major car companies rent cars down there now. Main problem-finding gas so don't let tank run down if you do rent.
It's gorgeous. Have a wonderful trip
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