Airlines: credit voucher vs. full refund?
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Airlines: credit voucher vs. full refund?
We had planned to meet our daughter in Europe for a few days, then travel to Morocco as a family.... obviously, that is shot.
Our flights across the pond has been cancelled, so we should receive a full refund (I had to apply for it and they say it may take a month to get the money back).
Within that, we had:
Norwegian Air - from Copenhagen to Morocco
Royal Air Maroc - from Morocco to Paris
Both Morocco and Denmark have closed their borders and we wouldn't be traveling anyway... here's the rub:
1) both airlines are offering a "credit" on the airline - to be used in the next 6 months.
=> We can't go in the next six months.
2) Neither of the flights have been cancelled (yet). I can't imagine they will fly.
Do we:
- accept a credit now? Knowing we will struggle to use it? (obviously not my preference)
- wait to see if the flights are cancelled? Will we get a full refund if the flights are cancelled?
Is this just the airlines playing a big game of chicken? Hoping that people will accept a credit instead of waiting for a flight to be cancelled so they have to refund it?
Is there any reason - if they cancel the flight - that the airfare is not refundable?
(EU 261 should come into play for both, i think).
thanks
(it is my preference that the flights are cancelled sooner rather than later -- I can recover some from travel insurance if they are cancelled....)
Our flights across the pond has been cancelled, so we should receive a full refund (I had to apply for it and they say it may take a month to get the money back).
Within that, we had:
Norwegian Air - from Copenhagen to Morocco
Royal Air Maroc - from Morocco to Paris
Both Morocco and Denmark have closed their borders and we wouldn't be traveling anyway... here's the rub:
1) both airlines are offering a "credit" on the airline - to be used in the next 6 months.
=> We can't go in the next six months.
2) Neither of the flights have been cancelled (yet). I can't imagine they will fly.
Do we:
- accept a credit now? Knowing we will struggle to use it? (obviously not my preference)
- wait to see if the flights are cancelled? Will we get a full refund if the flights are cancelled?
Is this just the airlines playing a big game of chicken? Hoping that people will accept a credit instead of waiting for a flight to be cancelled so they have to refund it?
Is there any reason - if they cancel the flight - that the airfare is not refundable?
(EU 261 should come into play for both, i think).
thanks
(it is my preference that the flights are cancelled sooner rather than later -- I can recover some from travel insurance if they are cancelled....)
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April....I see cancellation by the airline probable.
And hopefully, they'll notify you. Two of my recent flights with Lufthansa were cancelled and they didn't bother to tell me - the flights just disappeared from my itinerary. And I was already into the trip.
And hopefully, they'll notify you. Two of my recent flights with Lufthansa were cancelled and they didn't bother to tell me - the flights just disappeared from my itinerary. And I was already into the trip.
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Melnq8 ugh, that flights were cancelled without notifying you. Does EU 261 kick in then?
The Norwegian flights TO Morocco have been cancelled, so I am requesting a full refund. That also means a little bit of trip insurance kicks in.
Waiting for the RAM flights to be cancelled now.
The Norwegian flights TO Morocco have been cancelled, so I am requesting a full refund. That also means a little bit of trip insurance kicks in.
Waiting for the RAM flights to be cancelled now.
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Melnq8 ugh, that flights were cancelled without notifying you. Does EU 261 kick in then?
The Norwegian flights TO Morocco have been cancelled, so I am requesting a full refund. That also means a little bit of trip insurance kicks in.
Waiting for the RAM flights to be cancelled now.
The Norwegian flights TO Morocco have been cancelled, so I am requesting a full refund. That also means a little bit of trip insurance kicks in.
Waiting for the RAM flights to be cancelled now.
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Qantas are still playing this game.. telling people they have to accept the voucher by 31st March... and only valid to when you made the original booking . For me that’s 16 October... so probably not of any use. They really are bastardos for sure.
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The EU has said EU261 compensation doesn't apply. They need to provide you the usual duty of care but no compensation other than the refund. But with your flights being canceled this far in advance you don't even get the care. (Hotel etc)
Take cash. There is no firm date for restarting. Yesterday Ryanair mentioned two to three months best case. Even if there is a firm date they might not be flying the routes/dates you want. They might ALL go under.
Take cash. There is no firm date for restarting. Yesterday Ryanair mentioned two to three months best case. Even if there is a firm date they might not be flying the routes/dates you want. They might ALL go under.
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I paid almost double for united nonstop tickets Denver to kona (in mid February, before things were crazy); today they put us (we are in our 70s) on different flights 3.5 hours earlier with a layover in San Francisco (the original flight is still scheduled). I haven't any idea how to proceed. Tried the phone, was on hold for an hour., never got through. Suggestions?
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I paid almost double for united nonstop tickets Denver to kona (in mid February, before things were crazy); today they put us (we are in our 70s) on different flights 3.5 hours earlier with a layover in San Francisco (the original flight is still scheduled). I haven't any idea how to proceed. Tried the phone, was on hold for an hour., never got through. Suggestions?
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I booked flights to UK with Malaysia Airlines (Kuching/Kuala Lumpur) and Emirates (Kuala Lumpur/Manchester) and cancelled. Asked both airlines for refund, Emirates paid out refund within 10 days no problem but Malaysia Airlines proving impossible to get anything other than "Credit" voucher which I do not want . I would have thought that there is some sort of legal responsibility to refund, with appropriate cancellation fee, if that is what the ticket conditions stated but Malaysia Airlines obviously not keen to refund considering their current dire financial status.
Anyone know if it possible to get refund from Credit Card Company on basis that 'service' paid for is not able to be received ??
Anyone know if it possible to get refund from Credit Card Company on basis that 'service' paid for is not able to be received ??
Last edited by manukes; Apr 4th, 2020 at 02:41 PM.
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If they cancelled your flight(s) then you are due a refund. You can contact you credit card company to file a dispute - call or you should be able to find the ticket charge in your online account and click on it for details, look for an option to 'dispute this charge'.
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Apologies if not clear, my 88 year old brain doesn't always respond to my thought intentions in putting something to paper.
Flights were booked in March for travel in June before this crisis thing blew up. I initiated cancellation of tickets and as stated got the refund no problem from Emirates.
Tried to cancel on 'My trips' on my bookings menu on Malaysia Airlines website which informed me that I had to contact the Customer Service Centre to cancel. Problem is the customer service centre is out of action - does not respond to calls anymore. My communication has been with with the airline through their facebook chat message link. They just seemingly ignore requests for cancellation and refund and keep sending 'voucher' to re-schedule before end of year. I didn't cancel due to Covid problem , I cancelled for other personal reasons and asked for refund - less cancellation charges which I think I am entitled to. Is that clear ??
Flights were booked in March for travel in June before this crisis thing blew up. I initiated cancellation of tickets and as stated got the refund no problem from Emirates.
Tried to cancel on 'My trips' on my bookings menu on Malaysia Airlines website which informed me that I had to contact the Customer Service Centre to cancel. Problem is the customer service centre is out of action - does not respond to calls anymore. My communication has been with with the airline through their facebook chat message link. They just seemingly ignore requests for cancellation and refund and keep sending 'voucher' to re-schedule before end of year. I didn't cancel due to Covid problem , I cancelled for other personal reasons and asked for refund - less cancellation charges which I think I am entitled to. Is that clear ??
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Honestly Manukes I'd suggest waiting for THEM to cancel. Then they'd owe you a full refund.
Unless you're gaining something from cancelling yourself .
But the above assumes/hopes your flight will get canceled.
Unless you're gaining something from cancelling yourself .
But the above assumes/hopes your flight will get canceled.
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I agree with Traveler_Nick. I don't currently have any pending flights but if I did I'd certainly wait for the airline to cancel so I'd have more protection/rights. If for some strange reason the flight was not cancelled by the airline, I could still go ahead an cancel almost up to flight time and not be any worse off.