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Major sites in the US will close if the goverment shutdown occurres

Major sites in the US will close if the goverment shutdown occurres

Old Jan 18th, 2018, 06:32 AM
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Major sites in the US will close if the goverment shutdown occurres

Some major sites in the US will close - Yosemite, Grand Canyon, & all national parks. We got caught in this in 2013. We were told we would be evacuated from our hotel the day the shutdown occurred - but the shutdown was averted at the last minute.

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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 07:16 AM
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Excellent post, Stu, it's important for travelers to be particularly aware of this. When the government shut down in the oughts, our trip to Hawaii had to be adjusted because most of Maui is a national park and was therefore inaccessible. So was the Pearl Harbor Memorial.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:12 AM
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OMB is floating the notion that parks and monuments would stay open (to the extent possible) during a Gov't shutdown without non essential staff present. Hopefully it won't be an issue travelers have to face.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:22 AM
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I fully support the Democrats in congress, and some Republicans no doubt, that believe being bullied into not passing a solution for DACA and children's health is unacceptable and the solutions more important in the big picture than vacation plans.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:29 AM
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What has this country come to . . The same party controls the house, Senate and the White House and the clowns cannot even keep the government running!

You can't make this "stuff" up!
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The plan currently being pushed would include funding for CHPlus for the next six years. While it does not contain a DACA resolution, I would urge Democrats to pass this plan. DACA can be dealt with in the next go around in four weeks but re-authorizing CHPlus is urgent. States are running out of money and families that rely on CHPlus are facing unnecessary anxiety and uncertainty.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich
What has this country come to . . The same party controls the house, Senate and the White House and the clowns cannot even keep the government running!

You can't make this "stuff" up!
The Republicans cannot pass it on their own in the Senate. They need some Democratic support.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:44 AM
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tom42, I agree with you. Both groups need the legislation, both Parties want to pass legislation, but shouldn't nine million children and 370,000 pregnanat women count more than 800,000 DACA recipients? The answer of course is "yes", but it's all about political leverage. It's never, ever about what the country needs.

It's almost certain that there will be a shut down. If I had to vote, I'm not sure what I'd do.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:48 AM
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I don't know if I would frame it as who counts more. I would frame it more as who needs something enacted more urgently. In this case, it's the families that rely on CHPlus. It's already insane that it's now January and the government still hasn't re-authorized the program, which lapsed last fall. The DACA recipients, on the other hand, have a little more time. The program doesn't officially end until March.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 09:58 AM
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They can and should include both DACA & children's health now. No one counts more or less and all are suffering.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 10:07 AM
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They can and should include both DACA & children's health now. No one counts more or less and all are suffering.
Yes I agree. But if they can't agree on DACA, they should move forward. Sometimes you can't get everything you want exactly when you want it. They still have time to reach a deal on DACA.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 10:13 AM
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This is what government by chaos looks like. This is what Trump's base elected him to do.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 10:25 AM
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OK, OK, but this isn't the Lounge. I respectfully suggest the political discussion move elsewhere.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 10:41 AM
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why do you care?
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 10:42 AM
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Because I don't want to see this thread shut down, which it will be, even though it contains good information. How about we try to police ourselves, eh? You guys have a whole board for these kinds of discussions.
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 11:10 AM
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" most of Maui is a national park"

No, it's not.

https://www.nps.gov/hale/planyourvis...torotate=false
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Old Jan 18th, 2018, 08:02 PM
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Fair enough. How about this? Perhaps the most popular area to visit on Maui is Haleakalā National Park.
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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 07:37 AM
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I don't know NewbE. I have visited Maui at least ten times and never have gone to Haleakala NP. Visiting Maui again this June. Guess I need to finally visit the NP.
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Again, fair enough It was a priority for us at the time, but perhaps we overreacted. We thoroughly enjoyed Kauai instead; still haven't been to Maui, sadly!
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Old Jan 19th, 2018, 10:23 AM
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Let's recap. You want this discussion moved to the sequestered lounge in which much of us are denied entry, meanwhile you are offering inacurate information with authority about an island you''ve never visited.
Fair enough.
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