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AlanJG May 31st, 2012 02:26 PM

Wildlife Viewing in Costa Rica
 
Thanks for all the information I have gained from this forum already. I hope to be in Costa Rica about this time next year.

I am a rather serious chaser of wildlife viewing. I do it for a living, a community service and a hobby. (sad I know and I am also into single malt whisky) What I do not see is information about informed and knowledgeable guides and people finding lots of wildlife. An business acquaintance recently saw only 16 mammal species in a week.

I need to know:

1.Titles of good field guide books for mammals, birds, plants, and frogs & reptiles. (The plant guide would ideally list families as well as scientific names)

2. Places where you have seen lots of wildlife and how you managed it.

3. Names and preferably contact details of guides who know their stuff and are interested in delivering good views of the animals in which they specialise.

Thanks in advance,
Alan

volcanogirl May 31st, 2012 02:34 PM

An excellent place to view wildlife is the Osa Peninsula. We like Bosque del Cabo; they have guides/biology experts on site if you stay there.

http://bosquedelcabo.com/home/index.html is a cool video so you can see what the area is like.

Tortuguero is another neat area, more canal based, and turtles come ashore there to lay their eggs.

Also like the Cano Negro tour near the Arenal area. Sunset Tours is a great group.

You'll also see lots of wildlife in Manuel Antonio, but it's fairly tame due to familiarity with tourists.

If you want to see the cloud forest and quetzals, Monteverde is nice.

Garrigues and Dean is a popular CR birding field guide; so is Stiles and Skutch.

volcanogirl May 31st, 2012 02:36 PM

We haven't done it, but a lot of people like to hike in Corcovado as well. You can probably see most of the animals you would see there at Bosque del Cabo or other similar lodge.

mlgb May 31st, 2012 03:18 PM

Costa Rica is likely to be a bust as far as mammals as most are rodents and bats. Even if you go to Osa, you won't see more than 4 kinds of monkeys (because there are only 4 species in the country not counting "races"). Unless the lodge has semi-habituated cat, you probably won't see one of those, except in a zoo. Chances are no matter where you go, you will see the two sloths, coati mundi, racoon, a squirrel, an agouti and perhaps if lucky one of the anteaters. So your friend did fairly well if he saw 16.

Birding is more rewarding because of the number of endemics and the migratory birds. For birding guides I recommend Marino Chacon at the Savegre Lodge. Also Hacienda Baru has a night in the jungle program and some very good guides (Pedro Porras if you can get him).

http://www.savegre.com/
http://haciendabaru.com/

AlanJG May 31st, 2012 04:09 PM

Thanks you so much for the the replies. I'll follow all those suggestions up.

I still need info on books.

The sea turtles are not a priority for me as I grew up in remote communities in the Gulf and taught on Torres Strait islands. [Gulf = Gulf of Carpentaria]
Alan

PS If I got my guests only 16 mammals in three days of dedicated mammal searching I'd be feeling like giving them a refund. If it was a week, I'd feel like a fraud.

volcanogirl May 31st, 2012 05:15 PM

We honestly have not seen a lot of mammals - basically spider, howler, capuchin, and squirrel monkeys, bats, 2-toed and 3-toed sloths, anteaters, racoons, squirrels, coatis, agoutis - pretty much all the same ones that mlgb mentioned. You can see a lot in the way of birds and amphibians and insects if those interest you. Tortuguero has a lot of wildlife other than the turtles. What kinds of mammals are you interested in?

mlgb May 31st, 2012 08:19 PM

A lot of the less often seen critters are nocturnal weaselly things that hide in burrows. There is a list of mammals of Costa Rica on wikipedia. You can see why it would be a short book unless more people were into mice and bats.

They sell these folding plastic coated Field guides in various hotel gift shops.

AlanJG May 31st, 2012 11:52 PM

Volcanogirl I am interested in the lot. It isn't that I am not interested in turtles, anything which tastes that good can't be all bad (joke) but I know a fair bit about those animals and have some experience of them too.

Lists are not a problem. I am interested in the nocturnal little weaselly things also along with the eight species of Opossums,the ant-eaters and monkeys.

Thanks for all the help so far.

volcanogirl Jun 1st, 2012 01:13 AM

If you want to increase your chances of seeing some nocturnal animals, a lot of places have night hikes. We've seen an opossum and a porcupine doing that. There are also kinkajous. If you hike into Corcovado you might see a tapir. For the most part though you'll end up seeing snakes and frogs. I think the mammals may end up disappointing you.

RAC Jun 1st, 2012 02:13 AM

Corcovado (specifically Sirena station) and La Selva Biological Station/Sarapiqui would be two areas to consider. In two days/nights at Sirena we saw 10 species, including a tapir. We were also within 20 feet of a puma, we later learned.

Night hikes are not allowed inside Corcovado as it is too dangerous.

Going to a rain forest with a numerical goal of mammal species is a recipe for disappointment. It is nature, not a zoo, so nothing is guaranteed.

I am rather curious that you would consider 16 species of mammal to be a failure. Where do you go where such big numbers are expected normally?

Arenalbotanical Jun 1st, 2012 07:53 AM

He's in Australia. That why 16 sounds low. I haven't seen 16 types of mammals this year.....in 2 years. Here, Tenorio and the Osa combined.If you're looking for mammals forget Central America. If you want birds, insects and reps-amphibs, and especially plants, come on over.
The book you want is by Henderson.
Field guide to the wildlife of Costa Rica.

MFNYC Jun 1st, 2012 09:06 AM

In La Fortuna, we hired Geovani Bogarin for a hike in a private reserve that he oversees. Our driver (Wilson Rojas, http://www.coatitours.com) arranged it for us. More info about Geovani: http://fortunaguide.blogspot.com/ This link also contains a link to a NYTimes article about him. His phone # is (506) 8626-9348, he does not have an email.

He is a very special man, kind of an iguana whisperer. He really understands the animals and nature, and is truly devoted to it.

mlgb Jun 1st, 2012 09:47 AM

You can see some of the weasley things in the zoo in San Jose.
Good botanic gardens also include Lankester near Cartago for native orchids.

I missed seeing some kind of small cat on my way out from Savegre Lodge. Savegre has night camera traps. Apparently they have tapirs as well, we were following tracks thru the plum orchard, so I missed seeing one of those. I think there is a lot of that.

Even the danged frogs are mostly nocturnal, other than the common poison dart ones. I am no good at locating those night frogs even when they are chirping in front of my face.

AlanJG Jun 1st, 2012 02:11 PM

Yes I am in Australia and most of our mammals are nocturnal or at least crepuscular. I am a guide so it is my job to make sure people see what they have come for. Some people come to my country and don't see any wildlife (except for caged animals and night clubs). that is a disappointment to me but we are not all the same. I won't be spending a lot of time shopping or lazing on the beach.

Thanks for the book recommendation.

Happy to see things in zoos to become a little more familiar with them but it is in the wild that I would prefer to see all the little beasties.

For frogs which are calling it is good to have three or more people and you surround the frog and point at where you think the animal is. This will give you a better chance of overcoming any sound reflections.

mlgb Jun 1st, 2012 02:19 PM

Instead I went on a night tour of a frog sanctuary in Manuel Antonio. There was one of the tourists that seemed to be able to find them right away. Thank goodness for him.

If I were you I might write to Jack Ewing at Hacienda Baru. He is dedicated to training up his guides, many grew up in the area. Maybe you can trade some guiding techniques. I went on a hike up to their rainforest shelter one morning and we just missed seeing a peccary.

They also have some species list on the website.

Mammals
http://www.haciendabaru.com/Mammals.htm

volcanogirl Jun 1st, 2012 02:24 PM

I forgot a few others we've seen - otters, a tyra, and peccaries. The tyra was a new one for me; we had to use our wildlife i.d. cards to figure out what it was.

volcanogirl Jun 1st, 2012 03:43 PM

Make that tayra - I think I misspelled it above.

RAC Jun 5th, 2012 06:21 AM

For Corcovado, we used Kenneth Moran who I believe is affiliated with Corcovado Expeditions.

For the Sarapiqui area, the La Selva guides are excellent. Our guide was Lenin, and he was great.

AlanJG Jun 7th, 2012 03:32 AM

Many thanks.
Alan

AlanJG Jul 7th, 2012 07:25 PM

Just to brag and also as a follow up to the discussion above I had a ten identified mammal species night yesterday! Two gliders, three rainforest ringtail possum species, large male tree-kangaroo which really put on a show, two species of bandicoot and a melomys. Plus at least three species of micro-bat, four amphibians, a small snake and a Leaf-tailed Gecko. Not bad for a cool wet winter's night.


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