Do I want to go to Argentina?

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Oct 8th, 2005, 10:17 AM
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She might be scared she'll run into either you or Rocco though ...??!! lol , sorry boys , stickin by " My " original post ! Faith .
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Oct 8th, 2005, 05:24 PM
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faithie: I gotta respect a lady who says she stands by what she has said, but I suggest you read this thread and maybe you'll change your mind:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic..._District.html

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Oct 10th, 2005, 02:52 PM
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Hi Roccco,

It's been a number of years now since we were in Buenos Aires. We stayed at the Alvear Palace for 6 or 7 nights total ( a few days at the beginning of our trip and later on after Chile and Patagonia ) We were very pleased with our stay in all respects. The service was good, the accommodations were comfortable and well appointed and the location was great in the Recoletta district. The hotel certainly is the Grand Dame of B.A.

The fine dining restaurant served excellent cuisine and altho the price was very expensive at that time it was well worth the cost for a wonderful dining experience. There were lots of other good restaurants close by to enjoy as well as throughout the city. I hope you enjoy your trip.
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Oct 10th, 2005, 05:24 PM
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Thank you avrooster and DJE for the feedback.

Although it comes highly recommended, I am a bit concerned with Llao Llao. I stayed in a place back in December 2002 called Hosteria Las Torres in Torres Del Paine National Park, Chile.

www.lastorres.com

Although its website looks great, I did not have a very good experience at Hosteria Las Torres and ended up shortening my stay by one night, at my own expense.

I found the rooms at Hosteria Las Torres to be very small and I did not like the fact that I pre-booked activities that I found out could be done on my own, often paying for guides that did not even speak English. Although my wife is fluent in Spanish, I found it unfair that she had to work as a translator for a tour that we were paying for.

So, if Hosteria Las Torres and Llao Llao look like similar experiences, please let me know. If that is the case, perhaps I will skip Llao Llao. While such places may be incredible for some individuals, my wife and I did not care for it. I much preferred San Pedro De Atacama to Torres Del Paine, although I am not looking for an Atacama Desert experience in Argentina.

I do like the upgraded rooms at Llao Llao, but they are very expensive.

Thanks for the continued feedback.
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Oct 10th, 2005, 06:14 PM
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I am considering a stay at Hosteria Del Torres. Your report concerns me. Are the rooms uncomfortably small? Are they clean? Are the beds comfortable? Is the food good? Did you use the spa? Had you not prebooked would you have been happy with the access to hiking, etc from the hotel?
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Oct 10th, 2005, 08:03 PM
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cmcfong,

The rooms at Hosteria Las Torres were tiny...the smallest I have experienced at a hotel. While that would be somewhat acceptable if in Paris or Manhattan where space is limited, it made no sense that a place with so much vast open space should stuff their guests into such tiny bedrooms. They were honestly no bigger than a stateroom on a cruise ship.

The beds were not even queen size, if memory serves me correct and this was for a couple sharing a room. While not twin size, they were full size. This is unacceptable for a place that is promoting itself the way that Hosteria Las Torres does.

Do not prebook any hikes, as there are signs everywhere and you can easily do these right from the lodge. The only activity I would consider prebooking is horseback riding, although it should be said that the reason I finally checked out a day early is because I had a terrible allergy attack while horseback riding...actually I felt an asthma attack coming on and that would have been my first asthma attack in 20 years. I never experienced similiar reactions while horseback riding elsewhere, but I am still hesitant to say it was because their horses were dirty, because I really do not know.

Their food, although served buffet style with a lot of choices, was very average. Plus, despite about $25 USD for a buffet brunch and $30+ for a buffet dinner, not even soft drinks are included.

I would not stay at Hosteria Las Torres again. I would consider staying at Hosteria Pehoe which is about a stones throw away from Explora yet is no more expensive than Hosteria Las Torres.

http://www.pehoe.com/pehoe.htm

The rooms are only slightly larger than at Hosteria Las Torres but its location is much nicer.
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Oct 10th, 2005, 11:44 PM
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Fratello Rocco: I have been to the Llao-Llao several times and I have said on this thread and other threads in this forum and other forums all I have to say about it.

If you don't want it because of a bad experience in ANOTHER hotel in ANOTHER country, well that's all right.

You ARE right about one thing: the Llao-Llao's standard rooms are on the small side (not TERRIBLY small), but the Llao-Llao is a great hotel in an unbelievable location.
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Oct 11th, 2005, 09:07 AM
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Rocco, thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions.
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Oct 30th, 2005, 04:35 PM
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Geez, y'all are a bit ruthless, aren't you?
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Oct 31st, 2005, 06:36 AM
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starrsville,

I wouldn't agree that we are ruthless, but after awhile you can start to tell who is sincere about their travels and who is just wasting your time. The original poster could have chosen her words a bit more carefully if she really wanted help. Then, it was her own defensive attitude that sunk the boat.

I completely agree with avrooster for telling her to do her "homework." It is not as if we are being paid to respond to her...we are just fellow travelers. So, it is a bit insulting when someone comes on having done zero research on their own and just expects to have everything handed to them on a silver platter.

Since I did thread-jack this thread, here is an update on my own travel plans.

Because I do intend to return to Africa, after all, in late February/early March, to Tanzania and Zanzibar this time rather than Southern Africa, I will be doing a short 5 night visit to Buenos Aires in December. If it is just my wife and I, we will go the first week of December, likely staying at the Alvear Palace, but if not, then at the Four Seasons.

However, if my sister-in-law and her husband decide to join us, we will go the week before Christmas as this is when they can get off from work. Airfare does go up about 50% during this period but it would be worth it if family could join us.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 08:11 AM
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I disagree probably because I "know" SharonG from her posts on other boards. I don't think her question is at all out of line.

I've used this forum to plan trips and there's enough for me to read when I do searches to get a feel of the pros and cons of certain locations. I haven't found the same type of discussion regarding Latin America.

I have traveled to both Costa Rica and Ecuador - both on business. If I were consider whether or not to take the trip at all and/or whether or not to tack on a pleasure trip before or after the business trip, I would have EXACTLY the same reservations/ questions SharonG had.

I was extremely lucky to have the local rep AND FAMILY take me sight-seeing in Costa Rica.

My time was so limited when I went to Ecuador that I didn't take the time to add on a trip to the Galapagos Islands. That is one of my biggest travel regrets.

I think it's a bit naive or limited to not realize that some of us (even well traveled Americans) have a bit of trepidation traveling to Latin and/or South America. Whether or not it is reasonable or valid does not discount that most of us (Americans) are more familiar with traveling Europe (Paris /Rome in SharonG's example) than Latin/South America.

I am one of the first to recommend on the US board that new posters do a search and read the volume of informatiaon already available and provided by Fodorites.

SharonG's request is not due to a lack of research (IMHO) but to a not uncommon hesitation to travel to regions of the world that we have little experience or background with.

It's all about impressions, isn't it? For educators out there, this stresses the importance of accessing prior knowledge
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Oct 31st, 2005, 09:20 AM
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I agree with starsville ( obviously !!lol ) Rocco , no need to feel insulted because someone does or does not do "your interpretation" of enough research ..... It's nothing personal , and you could simply choose not to answer . No need or room for any "highhorses" here , myself included !
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Oct 31st, 2005, 09:54 AM
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Let's see...slam the OP for not doing her homework (despite the fact that we all know how poorly the search function works on this forum) and then hijack the thread to discuss your own trip. Nice, roccco, nice.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 10:14 AM
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I hate to say this because I do love SharonG's sense of humor and trip reports, but as soon as I read the question, I thought "Oh no, she is asking for trouble." How many people on the Europe board would have jumped all over a poster who asked "I'm getting a free trip to Paris. Is it worth it to go, and what should I wear?" I shudder to think of the abuse that would be showered on that individual.

Like Marilyn, I did find it ironic that someone who responded rudely to the original post would then highjack the thread.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 11:24 AM
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You are right Suki and if I had taken the time to think I probably would have phrased it differently. I was just so freaked out about being asked to do these talks and having to make a decision almost immediately based on no information that I just jumped in and went to Fodors. I guess I wanted someone to shake me and say "yes you idiot it is wonderful there so take that free trip".

Now that things have calmed down, I've done lots of research and feel fairly well prepared. I arrive on a Wednesday morning and will have the rest of the day to myself. Meetings take up all Thursday and Friday and then I leave Saturday night around 10:30 so will have most of Saturday to myself as well. I'm staying at the Four Seasons and have planned on a few of the places I would like to see based on their website and also from my search on Fodors and the book I bought on Buenos Aires. It sounds like a wonderful city and I'm only sorry I will be there such a short time. But it's a good scouting trip for the TN Trio of Terror. Plus, since I was initially reluctant to go, the company is flying me there Business Class! How bad can that be?

So thanks to everyone who was nice to me and again, I'm sorry if I offended with the off-handed way I presented my initial query.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 11:27 AM
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How graceful, SharonG.

Have a wonderful trip!
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Oct 31st, 2005, 12:11 PM
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Thanks Starrsville. I didn't realize you "lurked" here too so I thanked you on the Europe boards and started a war over there too. Good thing I'll be away for a few days.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 03:39 PM
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What was the original question again? I forget.
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Oct 31st, 2005, 04:24 PM
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Sharon, the trip sounds exciting and business class and the Four Seasons sounds absolutely wonderful. I bet you will be intrigued enough to return. Have a great trip!
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Oct 31st, 2005, 04:42 PM
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Does SharonG want to go to Argentina. She does - and she is.
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