3 months Mexico Trip!!

Old Nov 9th, 2020, 12:40 PM
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A friend just got back last week from a stay split between Tulum and Akumal. Tulum was very busy and he said traffic on the beach road was very busy and crowded, the Boca Paila Road he says is way overdue for work. Akumal on the other hand was not busy, and especially Half Moon Bay. La Buena Vida restaurant and bar has not reopened yet, mixed reports as to whether or not it will reopen this month or next.
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Old Nov 9th, 2020, 08:46 PM
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I'm getting the impression that TravelingLocals in reality have/has precious little Mexico travel experience, but rather just posted to troll for clicks on their blog. Which, unfortunately I did, breaking a personal rule I usually try to follow. Anyone who says they 'live like a local' when they travel does anything but. And does anyone who's actually visited Mexico City call the Zócalo anything but 'Zócalo'?
Guanajuato is easily worth a week. Day trips to Leon are super simple, for example. Leon has the most attractive plaza in this part of Mexico, not to mention the leather district. Lagos De Moreno, a Pueblo Mágico is worth a trip. Nearby Penjamo is home to the only tequila distillery in Guanajuato, plus there are some minor ruins nearby. Guanajuato is a beautiful city, many prefer it to San Miguel. Guanajuato has better museums as well. Indeed, San Miguel has better restaurants, but some can be pricey. Guanajuato's architecture is more of the Porfiriato era rather than the colonial.
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Originally Posted by baldone View Post
I'm getting the impression that TravelingLocals in reality have/has precious little Mexico travel experience, but rather just posted to troll for clicks on their blog. Which, unfortunately I did, breaking a personal rule I usually try to follow. Anyone who says they 'live like a local' when they travel does anything but. And does anyone who's actually visited Mexico City call the Zócalo anything but 'Zócalo'?
Guanajuato is easily worth a week. Day trips to Leon are super simple, for example. Leon has the most attractive plaza in this part of Mexico, not to mention the leather district. Lagos De Moreno, a Pueblo Mágico is worth a trip. Nearby Penjamo is home to the only tequila distillery in Guanajuato, plus there are some minor ruins nearby. Guanajuato is a beautiful city, many prefer it to San Miguel. Guanajuato has better museums as well. Indeed, San Miguel has better restaurants, but some can be pricey. Guanajuato's architecture is more of the Porfiriato era rather than the colonial.
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Sorry you feel that way, everyone is free to have their own opinion. I'm here on this forum to learn and share my advice, experiences and opinions, just like you are! I don't see the need for you to attack me or my opinions, just as you probably wouldn't like yours attacked.
As I stated in my post, I have been to Mexico many, many times, and I am free to share my experiences and opinions on the subject. Regarding Mexico city, Plaza de la Constitución is the formal name of Zócalo (the informal), and I used it as it's easy to find and reference on a map. The area is also frequently called "Centro Histórico", especially by first time visitors. The locals and taxi drivers all understand what location you're referring to if you use either of these.
I didn't enjoy Guanajuato as much as San Miguel as reflected in my post, and again that's my opinion and advice. If you don't like it, don't take it! I found the mummy museum in Guanajuato to be amazing, but I didn't find the streets as spectacular beautiful as the flower lined streets of San Miguel, and we didn't feel as safe. Your choice, do what you feel suits you.
Enjoy your travel and stay safe.
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Old Nov 13th, 2020, 09:39 AM
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Personally, I don't get the idea of traveling to an area with high COVID rates and saying you are just pretending it doesn't exist.

I would scratch Akumal, no point in staying there as a separate stay. I'd also scratch Cozumel given you say you want to avoid touristy places. I don't get why you picked it given there are a zillion cruise ships and cruise passengers all over.
And it's an island, so logistics there (I think the ferry recently was fined for some bad behavior, not sure).

I've been to almost all those places and really liked them all, to be honest. I haven't been to San Cristobal or that Lake, that's all. I don't understand the topography thing as often cities themselves may be flat or flattish but the surrounding countryside isn't. Isla Mujeres has tons of tourists also, by the way, although there are parts of the island that are less so, of course. You don't seem to know Spanish by your spelling, so that could be an issue in some places but not the ones you picked as none are really taht out there. I know Spanish and had to use it at times even in Merida and Guanajuato and some of the others, but I tend to do a little things off the beaten path, like taking local transportation. I'd be careful if you can't communicate at all if you are doing these nature things alone in case something happens and you need help. As well as the health issue.

I hope you understand the state of medical care in Mexico. I wouldn't do what you are doing given the COVID situation which is getting worse. I presume you know the mortality rate from COVID in Mexico is the worst in the world (death rate for those who get it, which is close to 10%). Well, worst of any country except Yemen but they are very small and don't have that many total cases. It is only a little worse than the US compared to the population size, though (deaths per 100K). But I'd care about the death rate amongst those who get it.
Here's the recent case rate by state
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html

Mexico City is the worst, no surprise.

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Old Nov 13th, 2020, 07:30 PM
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Christina, you are correct that the health care system here is a dumpster fire. You are also correct in that Isla Mujeres is terribly touristy. It didn't used to be. North Beach, once world class, is significantly eroded and encroached upon by 2 massive hotels. What little beach area remains is cluttered with those stupid massage tents. As far as snorkeling at Isla, unfortunately the Garrafon reef is dead. Not worth it. The day trip to Contoy is still OK. Mexico's best diving places are Cozumel and surprisingly, Veracruz. But not Isla.
Luke, I'm curious as to which tramo of the highway between BJX and San Miguel you found sketchy?
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Originally Posted by Christina View Post
Personally, I don't get the idea of traveling to an area with high COVID rates and saying you are just pretending it doesn't exist.

I would scratch Akumal, no point in staying there as a separate stay. I'd also scratch Cozumel given you say you want to avoid touristy places. I don't get why you picked it given there are a zillion cruise ships and cruise passengers all over.
And it's an island, so logistics there (I think the ferry recently was fined for some bad behavior, not sure).

I've been to almost all those places and really liked them all, to be honest. I haven't been to San Cristobal or that Lake, that's all. I don't understand the topography thing as often cities themselves may be flat or flattish but the surrounding countryside isn't. Isla Mujeres has tons of tourists also, by the way, although there are parts of the island that are less so, of course. You don't seem to know Spanish by your spelling, so that could be an issue in some places but not the ones you picked as none are really taht out there. I know Spanish and had to use it at times even in Merida and Guanajuato and some of the others, but I tend to do a little things off the beaten path, like taking local transportation. I'd be careful if you can't communicate at all if you are doing these nature things alone in case something happens and you need help. As well as the health issue.

I hope you understand the state of medical care in Mexico. I wouldn't do what you are doing given the COVID situation which is getting worse. I presume you know the mortality rate from COVID in Mexico is the worst in the world (death rate for those who get it, which is close to 10%). Well, worst of any country except Yemen but they are very small and don't have that many total cases. It is only a little worse than the US compared to the population size, though (deaths per 100K). But I'd care about the death rate amongst those who get it.
Here's the recent case rate by state
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html

Mexico City is the worst, no surprise.
Hi Christina,

Thanks for your post. I totally agree with you about COVID, and I am still rethinking my trip. I have been locking myself for a long time and I thought to go on a trip, stay in private rooms, wear masks and be cautious...etc and ofcourse bas a travel insurance that covers COVID, but till this point I still might cancel the whole trip because of the pandemic situation.

For Cozumel, I am interested to do a diving course and lots of snorkeling, and everywhere I check, Cozumel is the main destination recommended for that.
For Isla Mujeres, I saw videos about the island and it looked to me to be less developed than Cancun and has really nice beaches, so I wanted to check it out for few days in the beginning of my trip.

As for the language barrier, I speak some Spanish words and few phrases, nothing major, but I never worry about the language. I traveled to Spain, Colombia and Argentina before and never had any problems communicating with others, everyone seems pretty nice and try to help and there is always our dear friend (google translate) , plus my cellphone carrier provides unlimited data internationally, so I always have access if I needed directions or any info.

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Christina, you are correct that the health care system here is a dumpster fire. You are also correct in that Isla Mujeres is terribly touristy. It didn't used to be. North Beach, once world class, is significantly eroded and encroached upon by 2 massive hotels. What little beach area remains is cluttered with those stupid massage tents. As far as snorkeling at Isla, unfortunately the Garrafon reef is dead. Not worth it. The day trip to Contoy is still OK. Mexico's best diving places are Cozumel and surprisingly, Veracruz. But not Isla.
Luke, I'm curious as to which tramo of the highway between BJX and San Miguel you found sketchy?
That's a shame about Garrafon Reef.
Between BJX and San Miguel, we passed through Silao and stopped (at night) and found the area to be risky. We attracted too much attention in my opinion, and we were followed for a bit as we were leaving.
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I was in Cozumel early this year for a few nights. It is a big draw for snorkelers and divers, I guess there is still some reef there. I wasn't there to snorkel but we stayed a bit south of town and there seemed to be a number of dive/snorkel oriented places down there. Not really that touristy, compared to Cancun.

I didn't hate Cancun either which had a sandy beach you could walk along, at least in January. I'd just be sure to read recent reviews on places to stay.

As much as I'd love to vsitit Mexico again, I am a bit too old to risk getting COVID away from home,
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Luke, now I'm even more curious. Where were you followed in Silao? Did your driver actually go into Silao proper so you guys could get out, explore and walk around? Were you followed while walking around? That would certainly not be the norm for a private car at a $75 (US) fare, which is typical for a private, one way trip with no stops. Extra stops are always extra $. And my experience with the shuttle services in San Miguel is that they never even need to stop for gas so that there's no delay for clients. If you didn't get out of the car, then I'm also curious as to how you attracted too much attention at night in a Mexican plated car or van.
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Luke, now I'm even more curious. Where were you followed in Silao? Did your driver actually go into Silao proper so you guys could get out, explore and walk around? Were you followed while walking around? That would certainly not be the norm for a private car at a $75 (US) fare, which is typical for a private, one way trip with no stops. Extra stops are always extra $. And my experience with the shuttle services in San Miguel is that they never even need to stop for gas so that there's no delay for clients. If you didn't get out of the car, then I'm also curious as to how you attracted too much attention at night in a Mexican plated car or van.
Hi Baldone.
Yes, our driver did go into Silao, though exactly where I couldn't tell you as I'm not very familiar with that town, but in essence not too far from the main road going towards San Miguel. We had actually asked him if he would mind stopping so we could get a few drinks and a quick snack to take with us to San Miguel as we had arrived in Leon in the evening and were running late. He didn't mind and he said he knew a good place along the way as he lived in the area. I can speak fairly fluent Spanish, though not at a native speaker level. he brought us to a local bodega and he remained in the car. A few building down and across the street was an open air restaurant/stall that had tamales/al pastor. we walked over to that first, and while everything was fine, we did notice a group of three younger men basically staring at us pretty intensely. Enough to make me uneasy. After we left, the three men followed us up the street, then across and then stood outside the bodega watching us. I don't know their intent, but it was a bit unnerving. We purchased our drinks and made a straight line to the car and left. It could just be that we were strangers that looked out of place and purely coincidental, but having traveled in 50 countries, I've learned to trust my instincts.
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A brief San Miguel update. Unfortunately, after the Day of The Dead, San Miguel has now reported a record number of new covid19 infections. Local officials here attribute the increase directly to DOD festivities. They've subsequently implemented a "dry law" and a clandestine party hotline in an attempt to mitigate additional spread. Of course, the municipal government foresaw as much and canceled several events and parades ahead of time. But people still insisted on coming a way. Incredible.
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A brief San Miguel update. Unfortunately, after the Day of The Dead, San Miguel has now reported a record number of new covid19 infections. Local officials here attribute the increase directly to DOD festivities. They've subsequently implemented a "dry law" and a clandestine party hotline in an attempt to mitigate additional spread. Of course, the municipal government foresaw as much and canceled several events and parades ahead of time. But people still insisted on coming a way. Incredible.
Terrible news, very sad to hear. I hope everyone stays safe. Thanks for sharing.
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