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Patty Nov 10th, 2004 06:59 AM

Robespierre,
The instructions on that thread sound somewhat unreliable and even when it works, would only unlock your phone temporarily. Once you turn off your phone, it reverts back to a locked status. It sounds like a hassle but since the procedure's free, might be worth a try.

What I was referring to is paying for a service that unlocks your phone permanently.

Robespierre Nov 10th, 2004 07:33 AM

"Somewhat unreliable?" Everyone succeeded (once they did it correctly).

Permanent unlock $10 (plus cable):

<b>http://www.gsm-software.com/unlocksiemens.html</b>

Patty Nov 10th, 2004 10:24 AM

I'm curious, did you try it with your Siemens? Were you able to use another carrier's SIM?

flanneruk Nov 10th, 2004 11:16 PM

Isabel?

Why on earth are you buying your daughter a mobile phone to use in the UK when you presumably live in North America?

It's even less sensible than buying her milk to take with her.

Walk down any British high street right now. She'll be beseiged with shops offering for &pound;30 pay as you go phones incorporating low-grade but serviceable camera, videophone, MP3 player, GPS and synchronisation with virtually all of Microsoft OUtlook.


flanneruk Nov 10th, 2004 11:16 PM

Isabel?

Why on earth are you buying your daughter a mobile phone to use in the UK when you presumably live in North America?

It's even less sensible than buying her milk to take with her.

Walk down any British high street right now. She'll be beseiged with shops offering for &pound;30 pay as you go phones incorporating low-grade but serviceable camera, videophone, MP3 player, GPS and synchronisation with virtually all of Microsoft Outlook.


xyz123 Nov 11th, 2004 12:56 AM

Flanneruk....

While to some degree you are correct, it is most conceivable that there are some phones that are cheaper in the UK than in the UK...although technology is moving very very quickly on all this.

somehow I doubt you can get a phone on pay as you go for &pound;30 with all the whistles you describe. Now if you are going to be in the UK long term and get a contract plan, the company may give you a subsidized phone for very little but it works the same way in the US; if you go the contract route most companies give you terrific deals on high end phones.

Just check out the catalogue of British phone merchants and see how much they charge for the same model when it is

1. a contract phone
2. a pay as you go phone
3. an unlocked phone...

I think you'll see quite a difference.

isabel Nov 11th, 2004 04:26 AM

Flanneruk - well even if she could get a phone for &pound;30 that's over $55 and I was hoping for something even cheaper. We don't need/want cameraphone, etc - just a basic phone that can be used in London (as well as other European countries in the future). Several people on this forum have said they got phones on ebay for under $25, so that's really what I'm looking for. She's only going to be there for 4 months so signing up for a &quot;plan&quot; won't work.

xyz123 Nov 11th, 2004 04:57 AM

You might consider the Mobal offer at www.mobal.com. The lowest end phone, Nokia 3410 for $49 is a dual band (900 and 1800) and the price of $49 is pretty good.

However, I would not use their service, the prices are much too expensive. Note the web site indicates the phones are latched (locked) but the phone is a DCT3 and there is a calculator at www.unlockme.co.uk that explains how to unlock DCT3 phones.

The rub is that I am not 100% sure of the provider code that will be needed to unlock the phone. Since they are piggybacking on O2 in the UK, one would suspect using the O2 code will work but I can't guarantee it....

flanneruk Nov 11th, 2004 08:42 AM

xyz123

Oh yes you can (buy &pound;30 PAYG with more bells than St Paul's). How do I know?

Because, my previous mobile having broken, I spent a bewildering two hours yesterday deciding which of at least eight different shops in one 100 yard stretch of a typical high street, all offering at least two such phones each (all at &pound;29.99) to choose from. And I only ever use pay as you go.

I ended up getting the one which can do email as well - though I doubt God will grant me long enough to go through the contortions that seem to be necessary for that to work, and even if He did, some of the funkier services seem to work only from the top of our hill. But believe me: undertakers seem to be almost the only category of shop here that isn't offering these prices.

Now this might be just be a temporary result of the pre-Christmas 3G war, as last year's technology is being sold off to us Luddites while all the early adapters are piling into the things that transmit video at 5 gazillion mb a second.

But anyone who just wants a serviceable PAYG mobile is nuts if they're paying more than &pound;30.

xyz123 Nov 11th, 2004 09:53 AM

I agree and that runs about $60 US which is the price a lot of people are paying.....so we don't disagree necessarily.

When I was last in London in August, the cheapest pay as you go phones were running in the vicinity of &pound;50 and they were low end locked phones. Perhaps there is a sale on now...and you're there and I'm not but somehow getting a mobile with a lot of bells and whistles (such as cameras, mp3 players etc.) just doesn't sound right to me but believe me I will gladly bow to your expertise. (Can you tell us model you got for &pound;30 and where you got it..I might be interested next time I'm in London; especially if it is a Nokia which is easy to unlock).

flanneruk Nov 11th, 2004 11:13 PM

I ended up getting an NEC e616 from Phones4U. I've no interest in brands, and frankly my head was buzzing from the various combinations of functionalities available. All I wanted was a phone, and should have just bought the first &pound;29.99 thing I could buy and gone about my business.

Foolishly I let myself get distracted by the discovery that one machine claimed to synchronise with MS Outlook (it does, but very clunkily), and then got myself involved in the kind of functionality-comparing madness that normally requires anorak ownership, a football-score IQ and a mental age of less than 20.

Most of which is now just an embarrassing blur. Give or take the odd ability to do x-rays or cure cancer, there was a virtually idential range of near-useless toys on all kinds of brands at the Carphone Warehouse, The Link, Vodafone, Orange, O2, Woolworths and Rymans. I didn't check Alberto's Greasy Spoon, but no doubt he was undercutting the lot.

Whether this marks a further complete collapse of prices here, or it's just that retailers now all loss-lead simultaneously on these things pre-Christmas the way they used to on frozen turkeys, isn't particularly clear.

Incidentally, Mrs F - who had always struck me as reasonably sensible - has now decided she has to have a phone with a camera inside too. So at least there's one Christmas present all us cheapskates can stretch to.


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