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Would you bring a guide book to France and Italy or just rely on the web?

Aug 31st, 2012, 05:45 PM
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Thanks All for more great tips. Did you know you can't get Kindle fire from Amazon anymore. I was thinking of getting one for the very reason that its hard to do a search on the 3G keyboard. It doesn't look like you can get a touch kindle either. Is that because Apple sued Samsung? Which brings me to another point. Is it worth bringing along an android tablet on my trip ? I don't want all my devices stolen.
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Sep 1st, 2012, 12:23 AM
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Which brings me to another point. Is it worth bringing along an android tablet on my trip ? I don't want all my devices stolen.>>

pelligrina - contrary to what you read here and elsewhere, muggings and theft are not endemic in most of europe. I was once "dipped" on the tube in London - that was once in 20 years of working there - and they gave the stuff back so I never did understand what had happened.

so long as you don't wave your devices around in a dodgy bit of town or leave them on cafe tables, you are no more likely to have them stolen than you are at home.
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Sep 1st, 2012, 02:32 PM
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Like annhig and ackislander, I, too, cherish my collection of older Michelin green guides. It's very puzzling to me why Michelin decided to "fix" something that wasn't "broken." I call the few newer ones I have "Michelin light green guides."

I also have a large collection of Baedekers which I enjoy perusing, but don't find especially useful for contemporary travel.

We travel with a laptop now, and use it to research things as we go when necessary, but don't own a Kindle, Nook, smartphone or tablet yet.
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Sep 1st, 2012, 02:36 PM
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I never take a guidebook.

I may bring some copies or ripped out pages of a guidebook because I don't need them for food or hotels.

The sights and museums I want to see are timeless and I make a list of the addresses and opening times.

I have brought my netbook along but that's it and I'd leave that at home if I left my husband there too. But that's not going to happen, he has a phenomenal memory for facts and figures
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Sep 1st, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Leave your electronics in the hotel safe. Google the internet. Read about the Roma problem in Paris. There are literally hundreds of Roma teenage girls who travel in packs who will forcefully take your stuff. This is a recent problem since 2011. So anyone who travelled there before then is unaware of this problem. I encountered these people dozens of times concentrated in the tourist spots. Electronics in public = a very bad idea.
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Sep 1st, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Do some research before your trip. Print out some info, or rip out the required pages of a travel book and only carry them. Toss them as you go. I see so many tourists too busy looking at their 'devices' to see what's right in front of them!
Take a few minutes each day, perhaps over breakfast at your hotel and look over your info, plan your day, check museum openings, then set off with just a map in your poocket.
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Sep 1st, 2012, 04:21 PM
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It was mentioned above that Kindles, iPads and other devices can get stolen -- to which it was replied that theft is low in Europe.

it is true theft is low in Europe, but smartphones, Ipads and GPS devices are an exception. Most things travelers carry are not worth stealing. These things are.

I saw a different thread a few days ago about a mugging in Florence. Everyone focused on the fact that it occurred at 4 am as the key. But a smartphone was stolen in that mugging, and people should be aware that young American tourists are now more likely to get targeted now out of the presumption that they are more likely to be carrying smartphones or Ipads.

I'm not suggesting anybody get hysterican about it. But just like it has been true for a couple of years that you should take your GPS out of your car and not flash it around, it's best to do the same with smartphones and iPads, etc.
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Sep 2nd, 2012, 03:55 AM
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so long as you don't wave your devices around in a dodgy bit of town or leave them on cafe tables, you are no more likely to have them stolen than you are at home.>>


to which I might usefully have added "don't leave them in full view in your hire car either".

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we WERE in Rome in 2011 - for a week, visiting many of the tourist "hot spots". I was also in Florence for a few days as well. I didn't encounter one of these gangs at all - not once. I'm not saying they don't exist, but they didn't seem to be endemic. the scariest people for me are the ones who roam up and down the train carriages handing out begging cards. you should not leave ANYTHING alone in a train carriage, which if you are on your own is quite difficult.
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Sep 2nd, 2012, 06:01 AM
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Here is a article that explains the problem. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/wo...e/09paris.html

The problem has gotten exponentially worse since this was written last year.
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Sep 2nd, 2012, 06:05 AM
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annhig - Roma is short for Romanian Gypsies that are currently denied work in Paris. Not to be confused with Roma the city in Italy.
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Sep 2nd, 2012, 06:16 AM
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sara, I DO know what Roma means but i missed the reference to Paris - i thought that the OP was just going to italy, where, BTW, your comments are relevant IMHO to the people who haunt the trains.

However we were in Paris in March, and yet again, I missed this scourge of the modern tourist.

perhaps I'm just short-sighted.
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Oct 19th, 2012, 04:06 PM
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Oct 19th, 2012, 04:29 PM
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Since this thread came back again, I will chime in this time 'round. I plan with maps and internet, but bring a guidebook with me (just one, Cadogan, Fodors, Eye-witness or Michelin, depending on what library research suggested was most pertinent for that trip.

I find an actual book is more inviting to browse and find that thing you didn't know was missing from your trip than Kindle-equivalent and often help you find places that you didn't know existed...more encouraging of spontaneity, somehow.
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