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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 07:26 PM
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My husband and I have tickets for two World Cup games in June on two consecutive days, one in Berlin, the other in Stuttgart. We would like to combine the trip to Germany with some time in Paris. We will have two weeks to spend. I of course understand how crazy Germany will be during this time. Any suggestions for two World Cup novices? Where to stay in Germany? Any ideas you have for staying outside of the busiest, most expensive areas and still getting to the matches? Any general advice?? Thanks!
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 09:24 PM
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You mean you haven't booked hotel rooms during game days? Oh my...

I am not going to the World cup, but it profoundly affects my Germany trip plan.

I have been planning around the World Cup days and cities as I have been seeing the hotel rooms either completely sold out, or if still available, the prices going up double to quadruple the usual rate.
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 10:53 PM
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Can I ask which games you have tickets for? Oh, and good luck!!!
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Old Nov 26th, 2005, 11:12 PM
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Sorry, I mean which days? Obviously the draw hasn't taken place yet. I'd definitely get a move on with your accomodation, as it will mad over there.
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Old Nov 27th, 2005, 01:50 AM
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You really need to book your accommodation ASAP.

Given that we don't know what actual matches your tickets are for this could be vital.

For instance if your tickets turn out to be for England games then you will be fighting (possibly literally!) for accommoadtion against 10,000 limeys. The same for Australia and other countries

Of course if it's USA v Switzerland the place will be deserted.

Now don't even get me started on the lunacy of the USA being at the World cup........
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Old Nov 27th, 2005, 05:32 AM
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"Now don't even get me started on the lunacy of the USA being at the World cup......"

Why...aren't USA part of the world?

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Old Nov 27th, 2005, 10:45 PM
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hi there,
yes, the posters above are right, You should look for accos asop. Even Berlin ist terrible to find one for a good price. If You need help for Stuttgart just let me know (as I live there). How much is Your budget for a room? Do You have a car? What other things are You interessted in?
have fun
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Old Nov 28th, 2005, 12:34 AM
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"Now don't even get me started on the lunacy of the USA being at the World cup......"

Why...aren't USA part of the world?

Muck>>>>>>>

No they're not a part of the footballing world and they take a place that could usefully go to a country that is.

CONACAF is a disgrace.

I did warn you not to get me started!
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Old Nov 28th, 2005, 01:19 AM
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Hi David,
Coming from Wales you can understand my frustrations in trying to qualify from a very strong European region.
USA arguably, like Australia may have had it easier. However thats the rules and there is nothing you nor I can do about it.
I think it dilutes the quality of the world cup but they have qualified in the full spirit of the game.

And to be honest it will make it a bit more interesting than the same old teams being there all the time.
Remember Cameroon, what a breath of fresh air they were to the competition.
So despite Wales never qualifying for anything in about 300 years I can't be bitter.

;-)

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Old Nov 28th, 2005, 01:41 AM
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I did warn you…..

The USA effectively has a bye into every world cup as all they have to do is finish second in a group that includes Mexico, Jamaica, Trinidad, St Kitts, and San Serif.

Meanwhile countries like Uruguay (that have actually won the bloody thing) end up getting knocked out by Australia (who have the most ludicrous group imaginable).

Also Wales, Poland, Turkey, Ireland etc etc have to make way for a bunch of college boys who couldn’t get in the Dog and Duck second XI.

And think about it: Would you really want the Americans to be interested in soccerball*? Look what they did to netball and rounders. Worrying isn’t it?

David’s first law: “Anyone who calls it soccer has no place in the game”

The second one is “Thou shalt not suffer a gooner to live”

P.S. My old school invented football. This is a DAVETRUFACT.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 01:32 AM
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I am also starting to sort things out for the World Cup.

Try www.hrs.de for booking hotels.

I survived the USA world cup! It was great fun.
 
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>> CONACAF is a disgrace.

Better lump FIFA in there too. Currently, USA is ranked 8th. Also, 3 of the top 20 ranked teams are from CONCACAF...

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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 05:22 AM
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AAAAARRRGGGHH!

Talking to Americans about football is like talking about calculus with your dog!

The reason that the US is ranked so ludicrously highly is that the formula used to determine the rankings treats all competitive games as equally important. So England v Germany is seen as of equal status to USA v Trinidad. Obviously as the USA has two serious games every four years (against Mexico) this helps the ranking.

Also it takes account of friendlies. Proper countries don't give a toss about friendlies. The England manager would regularly substitute the entire team at half time until FIFA decided to stop him. As the yanks don't have proper competitive football they take friendlies seriously, so they win more than they lose.

And of course it's in FIFA's interest to open up the US market, so they go along with this ridiculous charade.

If the USA was in the European group it would never qualify.

Two things the americans will never get the hang of: Beer and Football.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 05:33 AM
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I am Irish and went to the World cup in the USA in 1994. It was really fun, but the Americans didn't get it at all. (I'm going to be done again for American bashing here). I went to Giants stadium to watch IrelandvItaly, and for somereason I was in with predominantly US "supporters" who had no clue of what was going on at all. It was hilarious. When Ireland eventaully scored - the winning goal - the Irish went crazy - singing and jumping up and down - some Americans got very worried - then the riot police moved in. The Irish don't riot, we just sing and jump up and down a lot - but this wasn't understood - which was a pity.
 
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David I guess you ignore the last World Cup and the great run by the US. Perhaps you can explain why England has sucked so bad lately.....
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 06:06 AM
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> Two things the americans will never get the hang of: Beer and Football.

I'll horrify you even more.

I'm a FEMALE and I've played football (soccer to the yanks) for 25 years. Still playing.

AND, to make it worse...I brew my own beer, even using Belgian yeast. I also travel regularly FOR beer. Making my 3rd trip to Belgium in just a few weeks to enjoy the Christmas brews from the source.

We're not all as clueless as you might enjoy believing.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 06:15 AM
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> It was really fun, but the Americans didn't get it at all.

I will agree with this statement. Support for football in the US is nothing like it is (or should be) in other countries. It's a bummer for those of us who actually really enjoy it and get excited by it.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 06:20 AM
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I take it all back – it’s like discussing quantum physics with your dog.

I am aware that bint’s football is very popular in the USA – you were world champions at it I seem to remember. However let us not tarry on such matters as ladies playing football. After all we don’t go on about the male knitting championships do we?

The yank football team did well in the last world cup s they adopted a style of play that more sophisticated teams found hard to do. American footballers are extremely well coached and at that time had superior levels of fitness to the more technical sides. That meant that they could run them ragged. Not pretty to look at, but effective (in England this is known as |doing a Wimbledon|). This got them past the weaker teams, but the better teams can beat the running around style nine times out of ten.

In any case the fitness gap is now closed. The modern European is at least as fit as his yank counterpart, and a great deal more skillful. You will see this come the summer.

The best thing about the American football team is the unbelievable Christian names of the players!

England are going to win the world cup –yes, really, they are.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2005, 07:18 AM
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"Bints football" har har!

Europeans are (nearly) as fit as the Americans now, but we don't have their shiny white teeth, so I think we are at a disadvantage due to blinding in a brightly lit stadium.
 
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That's true, but we don't have the drag factor of american hair - so it all evens up.

Americans talking about football makes my hair hurt and my teeth itch. I am fond of them otherwise, but on this subject i feel there is no room for compromise.
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