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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 09:36 AM
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Please, tell, where can I use thais german flexi twin pass is $135 per person.
And where to find it too ?

Thanks
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 10:33 AM
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Hey Tat,

Any travel agency has the brochures that expalin all of the various passes. There must be 100 different options these days.

Or, you can go on any of the following websites for more info:

www.der.com
www.RailEurope.com
www.ricksteves.com



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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 10:53 AM
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Getting back to the chickens.. Though it may be correct that free range chickens are tougher.. Might I suggest Organic? One of the problems with US meat is the sheer amazing quantity of antibiotics and growth hormones they pump in those poor beasties.... Theories abound about the possible side effects from so many chemicals being ingested by American's via their chickens. I have heard hormones in meat being possibly linked to everything from early onset puberty and breast cancer to middle aged acne.. not to mention that darned yankee "weight" issue.. then the antibiotics.. don't even get me started on antibiotics... Theories abound (theories mind.. ) as to the damage being visited on our immune systems by consuming enormous amounts of antibiotics on a daily basis... Forget Euro-chickens.. reach for the organics...
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 10:58 AM
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Maybe Degas can feed his organic earthworms to his wild chickens and produce a large, but still tender and tasty yardbird!
 
Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:03 AM
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When I was a kid, my brother brought home a dozen adorable chicks from the feed store. He thought they were all hens, and that my mother would be baking up a storm with all the eggs they laid, but they turned out to be roosters, every last one of them. After waking up my parents one to many times, they met the chopping block.

Yes, they were the most delicious roosters I ever ate. Also the toughest. But who cares? The flavor was heavenly. Free range is something else!

Back to the euro--my mother was on the phone saying she and my father were going back to Italy in March and since it was still considered off-season, the rate for a week at Villa Rosa in Umbria would be 400 euros. Great rate but you sort of wince when you know that last March when they were there, 400 euros was really closer to 400 dollars, not 500! Think it would stop these 70 year old go-getter Italianophiles like Mother and Dad?????

No way. Travel off-season.
 
Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:04 AM
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For me, the irony is that, originally, I was planning a January trip to Florida, but determined that I could go to Italy for the same price. And, of course, I would rather go to Italy than Florida. I did not take into account the Euro, however, but it's okay because I'd still much rather go to Italy than Florida. One thing I haven't seen anyone address: does anyone think the dollar will improve with the capture of Hussein?
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:31 AM
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Don't think so. Your economic problems are still the same.
Sorry.
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:37 AM
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Maletas,

I am going to Spain for 2 weeks in February, so I guess I fall into the "who can afford it" category.

However, if you can't afford it, why don't you go somewhere else? Since I assume you mean western Europe - there are many countries in eastern Europe that are still cheap to travel in. Also, you could go to South America - it is very cheap to travel there from the US right now.

Instead of whining, think of creative solutions!

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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:53 AM
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Well this certainly is bad news for us budget travellers.
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 11:57 AM
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It's even gone down further today.
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 12:01 PM
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Thank the Lord that I shorted the dollar and went long on the Euro! Go baby go! 5***** hotels here I come. No economy class flights for this girl!
 
Old Dec 16th, 2003, 12:11 PM
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there is no question that the budget minded first or second time traveller is hard hit.

but on average over the last thirty or so years, europe has been a big, big bargain.

now is a good time to visit countries whose product and living costs are less than the EU average. spain is a perfect example.

hell, i can remember when the pound was at $2.40. this isn't so bad....yet.
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 12:50 PM
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Yes this is yet another good reason to visit Eastern Europe
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 12:56 PM
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Umm...really "poor folk" can't travel at all. Could we have a little perspective, please?
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 01:09 PM
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KT, garage sale, part-time job, packed lunches, no starbucks, refinance a home loan, shop for lower life and car insurance rates, FF miles from credit cards, .... . Maybe somebody else can chime in with some other ideas.
 
Old Dec 16th, 2003, 01:19 PM
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Well I caught my breath and I guess that I'll be alright until the next time the dollar drops. Most likely it will drop again and often too. Now I know how my Canadian relatives have felt for years but I can just imagine them laughing and saying" Is it ever good, eh?" I am considering moonlighting, having several yard-junk sales, begging my relatives for money( even the Canadian ones)and if worse comes to worst, I'll sell an organ.
Is anyone interested in starting a support group for coping with this ever dipping dollar of ours?
 
Old Dec 16th, 2003, 01:20 PM
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No, but I may be interested in one of your kidneys!
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 01:54 PM
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ChatNoir, thanks for the suggestions, but I meant really poor folks. I'm already a budget traveller -- no mortgage, no Starbucks, and a 12-year old car in my life. I just meant that in a world where there are people who literally don't have enough money for food, shelter, and health care, I don't think having to cut back on European vacations really qualifies people as among the more pitiable "poor folk.".
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Old Dec 16th, 2003, 02:05 PM
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KT, sorry, guess you wised up a long time ago.

It's sad, but hoping to hit the lottery is often what keeps many poor people dreaming of European vacations. I play a dollar each week just to tempt fate.
 
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My tickets were paid for before the Great Fall of the Dollar, and my hotel is reserved at a fixed price (well, no one has called me yet to say otherwise...) So we'll still buy a metro pass and see the City of Lights, but we will eat more crepes and drink more wine in our room. (Damn!) The kids have been sucking us dry for years, so we are spending their inheritance, a little bit more every year...We started traveling kind of late (in our 40's) and we can't stop now!
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