Wi-fi hotspots in Paris

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Apr 7th, 2006, 02:19 PM
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This has nothing to do with the nuts and bolts of how wi-fi works, but on my last trip, as good as my French is, I couldn't get across to the hotel that I wanted to hook into their free wi-fi until we discovered that the breakdown in communication was that I was pronouncing it (phonetically) "why fy" and the French pronunciation is "wee fee"!
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Apr 7th, 2006, 02:29 PM
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So, if I understand correctly, there is only one protocol (right term?) for wireless service, so I shouldn't need a different card while in, for example, Italy, just maybe a password for access to whatever network I'm trying to hook up to?
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:08 PM
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Before I pay for wi-fi I always check to see if there is a free hot-spot that my computer can see. It is amazing how often I do find one. And yes I know it is not secure so would not do internet banking (unless it was an emergency becuase frankly the chances of someone snooping are so low I can live with that risk)
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:14 PM
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Does CDG airport have wi-fi?
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:16 PM
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Yes it does but I do not know if it is free - would suspect not
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:18 PM
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From the airport website
"The functional and restful facilities of the Icare lounge enable you to organize a last minute appointment. You can also consult your e-mails in complete calm via your laptop – connected to Aéroports de Paris’ Wi-Fi network. "

Did not mention it was free - so je pense it is not!
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:42 PM
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wombat7, you are making a very basic mistake in assuming that wired internet is more secure than wireless.

It is not. Never send anything through any kind of connection that you wouldn't write on a postcard and mail.

The safety rules (see above) are the same for either kind of network: do not send confidential information unless it is encrypted using SSL.

If it's somebody else's computer (in a café for example), don't even do that. Your keystrokes can be recorded.
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Apr 7th, 2006, 03:53 PM
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"Never send anything through any kind of connection that you wouldn't write on a postcard and mail."

Sorry have moveed on from that - this would mean no internet banking, booking plane tickets etc
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Apr 7th, 2006, 04:36 PM
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Internet banking and e-commerce use SSL. That's hardly the equivalent of plain text on a postcard.

There is no reason not to do banking and other financial transactions over a wireless network (or a wired connection that you don't control, for that matter) as long as it uses secure sockets.
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Apr 7th, 2006, 04:44 PM
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You know what I said about Robespierre never disappointing? Edit that. Make it "Robespierre ALMOST never disappoints." Thank you anyway, Robespierre, for almost never disappointing.
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Apr 7th, 2006, 05:24 PM
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HUH?

Please tell me how I have disappointed, and I will see if perhaps it may be the result of misunderstanding.
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Apr 7th, 2006, 06:36 PM
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I apologize for being testy, Robespierre. You are generous and knowledgeable, but the security issue seems needlessly complicated to me, and I was frustrated that I could not understand what you meant by your saying, "Send sensitive data via SSL.
Turn off Windows File Sharing" and "There is no reason not to do banking and other financial transactions over a wireless network (or a wired connection that you don't control, for that matter) as long as it uses secure sockets"

what do I know from "secure sockets?" Are you referring to something built into the website for the bank or credit card company I'm connecting to? Can't I assume Bank of America and my local bank provide this type of connection?

I use Norton Internet Security, which includes a firewall, and I have turned off file sharing in my network setup. So can I safely do internet banking when in Europe without worrying about having my data stolen?

I assume that when I send e-mails, unless I use encryption, they will not be secure. I very, very rarely send credit card info in e-mails, though I have done so from my home environment in the past.

Again, I apologize for acting like the wretched ingrate that I am. My lack of understanding is my problem, not yours.
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Apr 7th, 2006, 07:10 PM
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Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) is how your sensitive data is encrypted by your browser (and the "secure server" it's being sent to).

It's all about cryptography and shared keys and some very esoteric mathematical rigor, but the bottom line is that if the computer you are doing your online financial stuff with has a little lock on the status bar at the bottom, and if the URL in the address blank at the top begins with https, your data is secure from end to end. Wherever in the world you may be.

Regardless of whether your SSL-encrypted information gets from your browser to the server by a wired or wireless connection, it would take all the computing power at NSA a year to decipher it. And it doesn't matter, from a security point of view, whether that connection is wired or wireless. The one is no more or less vulnerable than the other.
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Apr 8th, 2006, 01:52 PM
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Wow. I get it. Thank you.
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Apr 8th, 2006, 02:03 PM
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Robespierre, you blow my mind with your knowledge about so many things. Thanks for making my light bulb burn a little brighter.
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Apr 8th, 2006, 02:48 PM
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I am only awed by the magnitude of what I do not know. quot;>
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Apr 9th, 2006, 04:34 PM
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Along this same line... I will be taking my WiFi (that's wee-fee in French, I believe?) -enabled laptop to Europe with me this spring. I've been reading up about using hotspots and am thinking of investing in something like JiWire's Spotlock product, a VPN that provides encryption for all internet activities (everything sent and received, not just stuff on https://), a firewall, and SMTP relaying (which allows you to use your outlook email client to send email from, say, your comcast.net email account from anywhere). Has anyone on this site had experience with JiWire's product or VPNs in general?

Thanks.
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Apr 10th, 2006, 05:00 AM
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<<ahotpoet posted: Is your Thompson network is in the 17th arr? If so, I have used the same network and wish I knew who the Thompsons were so I can thank them. >>

No, we must have found different Thompsons in Paris, since mine was in the 5th, on Rue Galande.
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Apr 12th, 2006, 02:00 PM
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Hi

Made my way to Paris and I brought along the laptop. So now I'm connected and here is a link to my MSN blog: http://spaces.msn.com/gardkarlsen/ . It also contains a bit of info about my trip to Malaysia recently...but I will of course make proper trip reports soon

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http://gardkarlsen.com - trip reports and pictures
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Apr 12th, 2006, 02:33 PM
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Good for you Gard! I will be there next week with my laptop.

Wvmom.... if all the Thompsons only knew.....
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