Why Must we all speak Englisch?
 

I am worried about ever more Englisch being spoken, my language is German and is in the fact that most spoken in Europe. Also, my country is the economic locomotive and 3rd world superpower.

In this globalizing economy, it is very easy to have one language that "everybody" speaks. English has gradually developed as the major language for international business, and I expect the spread of English to continue. German may be the language that is "most spoken in Europe" (by the way, I believe more people speak Russian as a first language in Europe), but English is definitely the language that most people can speak and understand as either a first, a second or a third language. <BR>

Joerg, <BR> <BR>Everyone doesn't have to learn English. I would guess that you learned it because your government or school board made a required part of the educational curricula. English is taught in primary education throughout western Europe because your leaders and educators believe that it is a necessary component of success. This isn't just true in Europe, but also Japan, and in elite schools throughout Asia and the Middle East. <BR> <BR>Frankly, I envy your ability to speak more than one language. I wish that I would have been "forced" to learn German or French when I was in elementary school. I would love to be able to speak either language fluently. Many Americans, like myself, studied foreign language as part of their high school or university education, but it seems that fluency is more difficult to acheive if you are only exposed to a language during your late teens or early adult years. <BR> <BR>If the US were composed of states in which different languages were spoken, the majority of Americans would be multilingual. The physical vastness of the US (which many Europeans have difficulty comprehending) tends to minimize the contact that the average American has with non-English speaking neighbors. Where this is not the case, bilingualism is not uncommon. A surprising number of non-hispanic Texans,for example, speak Spanish. <BR> <BR>Various languages have dominated western culture at different times- Latin, French and now English. Russian has been the common language for much of Europe since World War II (I believe that English is beginning to replace Russian, though). Currently, English is the closest thing to an international language. When a Russian visits Italy, what language would you guess that he or she attempts to converse in? Russian? Italian? I would guess English. When my wife and I studied Japanese as a second language at the University of Tokyo, the class was taught in English, despite that fact that we were the only native speakers of English in group of nearly 100 students. <BR> <BR>So to answer your question - I don't believe that the majority of Europeans "must" learn English, but, depending upon your profession, etc., fluency in English can make it a lot easier to get ahead. <BR> <BR>Here's a joke I heard once - If you speak three languages you're multilingual, if you speak two languages you're bilingual, if you speak one language you're American.

Steve Mueller: <BR>Years back I worked in Florida and witnessed the parents being up in arms, that their kids had to learn Spanish beginning in the primary schools. I too took French way back when, but as you lose what you don't use, the best I can do now is understand menus and street signs.

I say that the reason most of the world does speak English is that it is the international business lanquage-the power of economics!

- <BR> <BR>BECAUSE THE THIRD REICH LOST !!!!!!!!!! <BR> <BR>(otherwise, we'd ALL be spreuchen deutsche.)

"spreuchen deutsche"????!! what does that mean?

Dear Mr Schmitt, <BR> <BR>Fodors <BR> <BR>I agree with all the economic points made so far, and add that I'm glad if educated people across the world have a common language. But I agree also with your implied sense of alarm. It would be a tragedy if national and regional cultures of Europe died away. If you haven't been to Holland or Scandinavoia may I suggest at trip ? There everybody speaks and uses English. But everybody protects, uses, and cherishes their own language and culture. Thisencourages me. We don't have to give way to a multicultural mush. <BR> <BR>So may I lightheartedly protest at the loss of German cuisine amongst the plethora of Greek, Italian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, and what-have-you restaurants ? When I want decent duck with red cabbage I have to go to Bohemia. <BR> <BR>Aber wirklich, Sie haben etwas wichtig gesagte. <BR> <BR>Ben Haines, London <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>

I'm sorry if this is inappropriate, but I thought it would be appropriate. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't appropriate. <BR> <BR>-Joel <BR> <BR>"Psycholinguistics to the resku <BR> <BR> <BR>Having chosen English as the preferred language in the EEC, the European Parliament has commissioned a feasibility study in ways of improving efficiency in communications between Government departments. <BR> <BR>"European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is unnecessarily difficult, for example: cough, plough, rough, through and thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased programme of changes to iron out these anomalies. The programme would, of course, be administered by a committee staff at top level by participating nations. <BR> <BR>In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's' instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly sivil servants in all sities would resieve this news with job. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less letter. <BR> <BR>There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it was announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be writtne 'f'. This would make words like fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print. <BR> <BR>In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments would enkourage the removal of double leters whish have always been a deterent to akurate speling. <BR> <BR>We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is disgrasful. Therefor we kould drop them and kontinu to read and writ as though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'. Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al, half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o' kould be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. <BR> <BR>Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and evrivun vud find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of the Guvermnt vud finali hav kum tru." <BR>

- <BR>I AM A JELLY DONUT (a/k/a "Ich bin ein berliner"). <BR> <BR>TO: Bee Speller, my very bad german for 'we'd ALL be speaking German'. <BR>

English is more common for business and computer stuff, also, it seems to me, and that is becoming a very important world economic fact. Sometimes languages become more common for a reason and I think there is a reason more people learn English, or want to, than German, for example, and not just for economic reasons. Some languages are not commonly learned for a reason, as they consist of some archaic grammatical structures that make them more difficult to learn and which do not really serve a useful purpose when you analyze them, but only make the language unnecessarily difficult. One example: cases. Cases disappeared from English in the Middle Ages, I believe (and I mean real cases, not the kind some Americans call "objective case" pronouns such as "him" and "her", which are not real cases like in other languages). Czech, for example, has seven cases, and many different forms of even proper nouns, such as the name of a city (ie, there are different forms for the name of Prague depending on the case, Praha being only one of them). Having tried to learn Czech, I understand that there is a reason it is not a common language. German may not be quite that bad, but is unnecessarily complex, IMO (you have four cases, don't you?). I learned French partly for personal reasons as I study piano and like French literature and wanted to read it in the original, as well as understanding and reading a lot about French musicians and French music, etc., their letters and biographies, etc., books I can often get only in French. Also, I simply like reading the beauty of the French language in the original, Flaubert, for example, is a joy to read. Anyway, I have my own reasons, but I have a German friend who even admits she doesn't think German is a very nice-sounding or logical language, nor does she think it beautiful. When I learn a language I want to learn one that is rather versatile--French and Spanish are more useful than German, to me. French is spoken in France, the French Caribbean, Quebec, and lots of Africa, for example. Spanish is useful in South American, Central America, Spain, etc. German? I don't know other than Germany and Austria. Romance languages are easier to speak and learn, in my opinion, as they've adapted to modern usage and have dropped cases. Anyway, a lot of people, me included, get nervous when Germans start talking about wanting to be world superpowers (you don't really mean Third World, which is a term for very poor and undeveloped countries; in fact, I think that term was invented by a French economist) and spreading their culture and language everywhere, given world history. I would think you could understand that. I do admire your country for some of the social policies in terms of helping refugees, health care, etc., though, but I think some of your socialist policies have led to economic problems given your need to try to accommodate the former East Germans and some immigrants. Not sure how they are getting along at this point, especially the women.

Joel, YOU'VE DISCOVERED NEWSPEAK!!! <BR>Some very well thought (thot) out answers in the above posts. I still try to learn a few words in the language of my host country before I visit. I speak fluent Deutch and am trying to learn Spanish as my third (spoken) language. I don't think that any of us (fodorites) necessarily want languages to disapear (they add to the culture of the country) but business almost requires people around the world to learn some english as pointed out above. <BR>I'ch habe ein par bratwurst gestern aben gegession. Das bringt immer meine Deutche zuruck. <BR>

Hi Joerg, <BR> <BR>I agree with the notion that people of all nations should remember and hold on to their cultures and histories. A quick answer to your question is that all people do not have to learn English, they have a choice to do so if they like. <BR> <BR>However, in considering those choices one must weight the good and bad of those choices. I do not think learning english is bad, as long as the individual also learns and maintains his or her use of their home language. <BR> <BR>You obviously have pride in your country and that is good to see. However, your pride should not be blinded by realities of world commerce. You contend that Germany is the economic locomative, yet, the financial markets around the world live and die based upon what the US Federal Reserve Bank recommends in terms of interest rates changes. <BR> <BR>I am interested to see where you gathered your facts that Germany is the 3rd world superpower. I am not disagreeing, I just do not know. I know of the US, then China, and even Russia with all its financial troubles, still holds a strong military inventory and army. <BR> <BR>World reach and communication is the catalyst of any strong language. It seems that most major news organizations have English speaking origins. During the Gulf war and also the war in Serbia, those opposing leaders admit to watching CNN to gather to the facts. <BR> <BR>This is not a US is best or Germany is best situation. It is a situation of current realities. As far a universal languages, I remind you that French is the official language of the United Nations, not English nor German. However, when it comes to commerce, English is becoming a universal standard. <BR> <BR>But in a quick answer....so what.....that is just commerce. We all have our culture. While you gripe about learning English, I am a US citizen wishing I knew how to speak German and French. Does this suggests that I am wanting to give up my culture??? of course not. It just means I want more out of life. I want to share in and become a part of the german culture and the french culture. I do that by travel, and demonstrating consideration for the destination and people I visit, by trying to speak in their terms. <BR> <BR>Life is full of choices and opportunities. I wish you all the best in destinations your choices lead you. <BR> <BR>

Now I'm beginning to understand about trolls and this looks like it might be one. Spelling "Englisch" for "English" and "German"? Why not "Deutsch"?

I had the same feeling Joanna, but I figured the topic as a whole may bring out some good points.

Language tells more about a culture than just its words. Inuit has many words for snow (sorry, I forget exactly how many, but it's dozens); Navajo has almost the same number for rain. A Jewish friend told me there's a Hebrew word for the relationship between mothers-in-law. Without knowing one word of any of those languages, I would know something about their cultures. <BR> <BR>English is becoming a universal (mondial?) language because of the media. The U.S. makes lots of movies that have mass appeal - so they cross borders. Sometimes they have subtitles in other countries, but the English words still play. I had a conversation with a Dutch man when I commented that almost everyone in the Nederlands spoke English - and well. He said that the BBC was broadcast to Holland, and that as traders throughout history, the Dutch have always learned other languages. A sidebar here: at a train station in Amsterdam, a young woman heard me speaking English to someone else, and 'tried out' her English on me. She had Down's Syndrome...and she knew more English than I had a prayer of knowing Flemish. That was a real thunk on the back of my head. <BR> <BR>German is tough as a second language (I asked a friend who speaks Arabic and French as first languages, and English, Italian and German as second languages, which was the hardest, expecting him to say English; he said "no, GERMAN, the grammar is brutal!"). Another friend, a German woman who moved here as an adult, speaks perfect English, her accent sounding more like that of folks from Minnesota, suddenly had a German accent. I asked her why, and she said "I have a canker sore on my tongue, so I have to hold it differently". Hmmm...more to this language thing than meets the eye (so to speak). <BR> <BR>Bottom line: learn as many languages as you can, but keep your own. To do that, be a good speller, don't fall back on slang, and look up words you don't know. Nothing makes me laugh louder than some knucklehead who spouts "Ainglish shud bay the OWNLIEST langeege in 'Merica". Yup uh huh I want YOU to be MY spokesperson.

<BR>Jörg, <BR>No one forces you to speak English. If you have a travel question - we're on a travel forum, remember - you may always put it in German. I'm sure there will be lots of people that will try to reply in your language. <BR> <BR>Grüsse aus Belgien, <BR>Myriam

Christina: As for the world power, I guess that Joerg was either speaking about economics or about Chirac's recent speech in which he described Germany as a world power. This made the german politicians at least as nervous as you. <BR> <BR>German has its advantages outside of Germany, Austria and Switzerland. At least a few years ago, I found it in former east block countries often more widely spoken than English or French. <BR> <BR>I personally doubt that German is much more difficult that French. But I agree that English has the great advantage that one can start to speak while knowing very little grammar. As for the beauty of languages, that's of course a matter of personal taste. <BR> <BR>At least in Germany, English normally isn't taught in elementary school. Students start to learn foreign languages with ten and even then they have the choice to start with another language. In this case they start learning English with 12 (that's the way I did it). <BR> <BR>I agree with all the people who stated that English is the language used for international communication. My French is clearly worse than my English and I normally end up speaking English with Frenchmen, although we might have had French respectively German in school. The somewhat odd situation exists that I have sometimes more problems to understand a native english speaker than someone who learned it as a second language. People speaking standard english without an accent are easy to understand but there exist some accents which are extremely difficult to follow, at least until one gets used to them after a few hours or days. Not meant offensively, but Americans with strong accents should keep in mind that the people they encounter might have problems to understand them even if they have a knowledge of English. The people might not have spoken English for a few months and if they encounter someone with a strong accent, they might not understand a word. Stupid as it sounds, the joke that everybody understands English if it is spoken loudly and slowly has some thruth in it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't English a Germanic language? <BR> <BR>Also, in my oh so humble opinion, I found a more rigid grammar system to be a bit easier... I speak English as my first langauge, and studied Spanish for a while. In learning Spanish, the most difficult aspect was the irregular conjugations. English, I would claim, is irregular, period. Not to mention the cliches! <BR> <BR>And I thought that the UN had two official languages, French AND English??? Was I wrong in that as well?

This may be a bit assonine, but I was a little curious about the "third world superpower" line as well... <BR> <BR>Militarily, Germany is quite a ways down on the list. The US, France, UK, and Russia top the list. Numerically, even China, Vietnam, and (if I remember correctly) Indonesia have more soldiers (though not as modern technology). <BR> <BR>Economically, isn't Germany Fourth? The U.S. is first, followed by Japan, then China, and then Germany, right?

All this talk about the "number 1, 2 or 3 World Superpower" doesn't make much sense anyway. With Europeans living and working in Japan, British, Japanese and Dutch owning half of corporate America (I know, I am exaggerating, but only a bit), and hundreds of thousands of Americans living and working abroad, we all live in a global economy. Which also means that our economies move "up and down" together.

English is a good choice for Europe, linguistically speaking, not because it has an "easy" grammar (if you think it does, you've never read compositions written by foreign students!!) but because it has a Germanic base and has borrowed heavily from French for much of its vocabulary. Practically speaking, if Europe wants a language for business/government purposes, it only makes sense to pick a language that the rest of the world has some experience with. German is spoken by a large number of people, but consider the political reasons that speak against it as a common tongue for Europe; if your country had been occupied and terrorized by Germany a mere 55 years back, how eager would you be to adopt the linguistic symbol of such imperialism when you have the language of your liberators at your disposal?

Joel: I think that the GDP of China is larger than that of Japan and Germany. Still Japan is normally put at two and Germany at three. Don't ask me why. <BR> <BR>Otherwise the german government has made it several times clear that Germany doesn't consider itself to be a world power nor that it has any aspiration to become one.

Hmm, I guess I haven't seen the GDP figures recently... Regardless, it makes more sense to think of the economies in terms of the U.S., EU, and Japan, as how they're the large players. Germany has half of the economy of the EU, of course, but it act as a part of the EU, and not independently (or so it appears to me). <BR> <BR>And maybe I'm alone, but I'm not particularly worried about Germany emerging as a global power. Has Germany really done anything deserving of reproach in the last 55 years, at least in the foreign affairs arena. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Germany doesn't seem to be caught up in a genocidal or nationalistic past, and actually seems to emerge as a true member of the international community.

Joel: Germany has far less than 50% of the economy of the EU. The EU has 375 million people, Germany has 80 million. The Germans are a bit richer than average in the EU, so they probably have about 25% of the EU economy. <BR>

I think Joel is on the right track… English is classified as a Germanic language, but it is also very strongly rooted in the Romance group (Latin, French, Italian, Spanish, etc.). The British Isles may have started off speaking Celtic, but between invasions by the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Danes, Romans, et. al., something happened. The “something” was that the island’s language evolved into the first polyglot; absorbing words, phrases, and even grammatical rules from whomever was overrunning Britain that century. <BR> <BR>The result is a language that has something for – and from – everyone. I have a good friend who emigrated to the U.S. as an adult, speaking fluent German, Italian, and Portuguese (she came from southern Brazil), but not a word of English – or so she thought. What she discovered was that virtually every noun and verb in English has a synonym, and that reaching for the nearest “foreign” word she knew invariably worked. Some weeks ago, I lunched with a co-worker whose native language is Mandarin. For him, spoken English turned out to be “amazingly easy,” (his words, not mine). “No tones, and the sentence structure is logical.” For a former co-worker from Russia, English’s lone bane was “those damn articles.” My parting gift to her was a box full of scraps of paper with “a,” “an,” and “the” printed on them. I am told that written English is especially easy… 26 letters and no curveballs. Apart from a couple of hundred words with multiple meanings, plowing through an English-language sentence is a very straightforward affair. <BR> <BR>When I was in college, Russian was the language of physics and German the language of chemistry. To advance in either course of study required a working knowledge of those languages; written to keep up with the technical journals, spoken to attend conferences. In the intervening years, engineering and computer science have come to be the “hot” areas, and these are “American” specialties, hence the need for spoken and written English for those pursuing careers in those subjects. <BR> <BR>Great Britain and World War II are largely responsible for the spread of English in the 20th Century. Wherever Britain had colonies, it left behind English as a legacy. Present or former Commonwealth countries comprise something on the order of 40% of the world’s population. In the years following World War II, the United States maintained military bases around the world, leading to widespread fluency in English via Armed Forces Radio and Television. I cannot tell you the number of people in Greece, Germany, and Japan who attribute their proficiency in English to AFRTS. <BR> <BR>English has become the language of business for a number of reasons. First and perhaps foremost, the U.S. represents something like 35% of the world GDP (that’s down from 50% in the 1960s). That’s a powerful rationale to learn a language. Moreover, a very high percentage of businessmen receive undergraduate or graduate degrees in the U.S. or Great Britain. Finally, businesses are increasingly transnational in nature; with Swiss working alongside Argentines, Canadians, and Japanese. There has to be a common language. The lingua franca has come to be English because much of the terminology of business is English-based. One of my lingering memories of my last trip to France was dining in a restaurant where two businessmen sat at a table speaking French to one another. A third joined them and then a fourth, and the conversation switched to English. From the accents, I would say the first two diners were French, the third was Italian and the fourth was German. English was their common tongue.

Joerg, <BR> <BR>As an American working in Europe, I agree with you in a certain sense, for different reasons. If language helps identify cultural heritage, it seems to me that English is becoming something like McDonalds. I am losing some of my cultural heritage by people making English a common denominator language. You can find it anywhere. Here in Brussels, people speak three languages, Dutch, French and English. Having learned French in school, even that is too big for me. So I'm going to learn Dutch because nobody wants to learn it. So it's safe as a language with a protected cultural heritage. Not something watered down. I will still speak English in the business community but will always be able to find Belgian or Dutch speakers in a crowd with a friendly 'Dag'. <BR> <BR>Jerry

Alright, my ignorance is layed bare. I have spent a bit of time trying to find the GDP of all relevant countries, and have had very varied results. In the end, I chose to accept as Hoyle the CIA World Fact Book, if for not other reason that the CIA is infallible (well, of course, except with street maps and nuclear testing predictions and military coups and the such). And so yes, Germany looks to be about a quarter of the GDP of the EU. However, it makes up a bigger chunk of Euroland, but still not half. The largest is the US, the second is China, followed by Japan, and then Germany. Behind Germany comes France, then the UK. Not that this really matters... <BR> <BR>One other reason for choosing the English language: Size. The English language has an incredible array of vocabulary, even if most of it is so obscure as to be academic at best. I don't have the comparitive size, but I remember it was a substantial size.

UP!

During the period, L.L. Zamenhof, an oculist in Warsaw, Poland (then Russia) developed the language now known as "Esperanto." (This word, which in Esperanto means "a person who is hoping", was adopted by Zamenhof as a pseudonym for his first book. It was gradually adopted in popular parlance as the name of the language itself.) Zamenhof, who grew up in a polyglot society, was convinced that a common language would be necessary to resolve many of the problems that lead to strife and conflict. He rejected the major languages of his day (French, German, English, Russian) because they were difficult to learn and would put their native speakers at an advantage in discussion with respect to those who did not speak them natively; and he rejected the two "dead" languages with which he was familiar, Latin and Greek, because they were even more complicated and unwieldy than the currently extant major languages. He began work on his planned language, which he would eventually call "Lingvo Internacia", as a junior in high school, and eventually published the first textbook of the language (for speakers of Russian) in the 1887, at the time of his marriage and early in his medical career. <BR> <BR>Unfortunately, Esperanto never really caught on as a universal language as Zamenhof had hoped it would and it's my opinion that was, in large part, precisely because it was a language that was created -- even if it was easier to learn -- not one that evolved and already existed. And now, it seems as if English has essentially become -- for better or worse -- the world's "Esperanto." <BR>

I don't think that the proliferation of English reflects the relative 'importance' of a culture globally, either economically speaking or anything else. For whatever reason, English seems to have been chosen as the lingua franca - we'd have had to have chosen something, English just happened to be it. Most international airports around the world communicate with pilots in English, for example. <BR> <BR>Having said that, the introduction of personal computers - largely from the USA - and the origin of the Internet in the same country has tended to cement English as the 'common' language. <BR> <BR>This does NOT mean that anyone should feel that they 'must' speak English! Speaking for myself, a unlingual world would be as bad as listening to Musak....

Joel : ROFL...your novlang essay was hilaring <BR> <BR>Apart from that : <BR> <BR>AFAIK, french and english are only 2 of the official languages of the UN, amongst several others (too lazy to check it up, though) <BR> <BR>If you had some problems with GDP figures, it's because there's two ways to calculate it : <BR> <BR> -The traditionnal one : computing the GDP at local prices and in the local currency, then convert it in $ (problems : a)if the local currency lose value, for instance the euro recently, the GDP is reduced accordingly (and the reverse if it gains value) <BR> b)if the local prices are very different from the the american ones, for instance the rice in Japan, the GDP is artificially modified. <BR> <BR> -The more accurate but less commonly used one : each kind of production is given a fixed value in $. So, if two countries produce the same quantity of rice, for instance, their GDP will be the same, whatever could be the local price or the current exchange rates. <BR> <BR>Of course, when a GDP is given, the method used is *never* stated. And there's *huge* differences (one method can give a GDP up to 4 or 5 times greater than the other). It's especially true for China, by the way. <BR> <BR>China (according to second method at least) has indeed at least the 3rd GDP (I evend thought it was the 2nd...too lazy to check that, once again). However, it's still not considered as a major economical power since : <BR> <BR> -It's still a develloping country. Its GDP reflect mainly its huge population. <BR> -Its exchanges are proportionnaly very limited (as compared to western countries). Most of its production is consumed locally (and most of its consumption is produced locally), so its influence in the interenational trade is very limited. <BR> <BR>(To give an example, an huge family of farmers with of lot of lands which would produce loads of corn, milk,vegetables, etc..but would eat most of its production and wouldn't have enough left to sell it and buy a car would be considered as poorer than their middle-class neighboor, even while their total production is greater than the income of the said neighboor, and would certainly not be rated as the 2nd or 3rd <BR>richest family in the village) <BR> <BR>Also, I don't think the US represent 35% <BR>of the world GDP (at least with the second method. The $ being currently very high, it could be true with the first one). I believe it's more like 25% <BR>(wich is already huge, with only 5% or so of the world population). And Germany <BR>definitely represents much less than 50% of the GDP in the EU. <BR>

Joerg <BR>I had a chance to be in uk for 2 years, but one thing i can tell you was my best friend (flat mate) is a guy from Vienheim. I visited his family, and learnt some deutsche. I think it is hard to learn a new language at my age, but to read German, i think it is easier. I can tell you that German is chosen to be the second foreign language for students here in thailand. <BR>Nein! spechen kein deutsche. Auf wiedersehen.

The answer to your question is very simple. German just may be the most ugly language spoken on earth. Also, nobody likes Germans.

Anklish iza derivashun ov da jermanic vulgait (lo, not hi jerman), and zum yeers ago Anklish vaz pronownced da ofishul langwag for sians (how ironik). <BR> <BR>If you want a sample of how the antiquated English used by kings and gentry nearly sounded like, visit the Ozarks (Bill Shakespeare and the Globe theatre be darned). <BR> <BR>Esperanto lives on. But if you ever want to hear it on TV, you'll probably have to watch specific episodes of Red Dwarf. <BR>

- <BR>TO: Simple Answer <BR> <BR>Granted German does not have the soothing rhymic vowels sounds of the romance languages, but that's a tad harsh calling it the "ugliest language in the world". <BR> <BR>BTW, English is a GERMANIC language and to other ears we ain't the language of love either . . .

German IS the ugliest and harshest language. And given Germany's role in WWII I wouldn't mind if it sank into obscurity.

To Lora: Yes indeed, German IS as ugly and harsh as your name LORA.

Hi everyone, <BR> <BR>One of the main reasons I think English is spoken so widely is that Britain ruled much of the world at one time. As the colonies regained independence they not only kept much of the British education system, government etc. but also the language. I know about this first-hand because I come from India (I've lived in the US for 17 years now) and its amazing how much of the British legacy is still left in India. There is a saying back home that "when the British left India the white Sahibs were replaced by the brown Sahibs". <BR> <BR>As many of you probably know India has several languages, not just dialects. When you go from one part of the country to the other and you don't the local language, guess what you speak ? One of my friends once asked me what language we speak when a group of Indians get together and each one is from a different region. The answer - English. <BR> <BR>I think one of the best legacies of the British was the English language. To me Enlish is like my mother-tongue. It made my transition to the US so easy. A lot of contract workers are being imported by companies from abroad in the software arena. And India rates the highest. Fluency in English is certainly one major reason. <BR> <BR>I don't know about the language being a big influence in losing ones heritage. Some of us from India speak many languages, including English. We are truly multi-lingual in that we can switch from one to the other easily while conversing. We haven't lost that ability just because English is the main language. To me the scary thing is the way American culture or rather what is perceived as American culture is taking over India. Blue jeans, MTV, soap opera, Nike and Reeboks and materialism in general. Unfortunately today's teenagers ape all the superficial aspects of this culture while looking down on the traditional culture. I wonder sometimes if American culture as represented by McDonalds, Oprah and 'Who wants to become a Millionaire' will become the global culture someday ??? <BR> <BR>Chitra

If we are truly to become a Global village, then we must share a common language and hell, Ah'm too much of a Rube to lern no German.