Why do you pay E200, E300, E400 or more for a Paris hotel room?
Feb 7th, 2007, 05:35 PM
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tower, I don't think anyone is "maligning" robjame for asking the questions any more than he has maligned many readers by making a post which essentially seems to say "if you pay more than 100 euro for a Paris Hotel, you're stupid". As he says, he doesn't "get" spending money for hotels but he does for restaurants. I suppose anyone could bounce his comments right back at him saying "<< It matters to some people what their FOOD IS. It doesn't matter to others. Why can anyone not understand that?>> This is absolutely true... if you accept the premise (which you do and I do not) that more money buys you better "FOOD".
But just as I'm sure robjame will insist you can't get as good a meal for $5 as you can for much more, some of us will also insist that you can't get a 100 euro hotel room as nice as a 400 euro one. He doesn't have to agree with us, but we don't have to agree with him either. That's the point of a discussion board.
Once again, he clearly has different tastes and different priorities from some others.
And Stanleyps, I'd like to agree with you, but to be honest I can't begin to find hotels or apartments in my budget as nice as my own home, but that still doesn't mean I'm willing to sleep on a futon in a crackerbox with white walls and cheesy furniture. Now THAT'S depressing.
But just as I'm sure robjame will insist you can't get as good a meal for $5 as you can for much more, some of us will also insist that you can't get a 100 euro hotel room as nice as a 400 euro one. He doesn't have to agree with us, but we don't have to agree with him either. That's the point of a discussion board.
Once again, he clearly has different tastes and different priorities from some others.
And Stanleyps, I'd like to agree with you, but to be honest I can't begin to find hotels or apartments in my budget as nice as my own home, but that still doesn't mean I'm willing to sleep on a futon in a crackerbox with white walls and cheesy furniture. Now THAT'S depressing.
Feb 7th, 2007, 07:11 PM
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Well Robjame, you really should be flattered! Not many people start threads that get resurrected after a year.
Your question contains circular logic. You can't fairly infer that that a given hotel price need not be paid for a room with this or that set of characteristics, since whether most hotel rooms meet a given person's standards for those characteristics is at the heart of the debate in the first place.
For example, you state, without further justification, that one can get a charming hotel room for x amount of money. Yet is there any universal standard of 'charming' that you can make such a claim?
What about 'clean'?
Or 'well-located' - how can you judge this, without knowing where a given person wishes to go in Paris during their stay there?
And where did you come up with the figure of €100 to designate a 'reasonably' priced hotel room?
Your question contains circular logic. You can't fairly infer that that a given hotel price need not be paid for a room with this or that set of characteristics, since whether most hotel rooms meet a given person's standards for those characteristics is at the heart of the debate in the first place.
For example, you state, without further justification, that one can get a charming hotel room for x amount of money. Yet is there any universal standard of 'charming' that you can make such a claim?
What about 'clean'?
Or 'well-located' - how can you judge this, without knowing where a given person wishes to go in Paris during their stay there?
And where did you come up with the figure of €100 to designate a 'reasonably' priced hotel room?
Feb 7th, 2007, 07:24 PM
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Jeesh, before the invention of internet bulletin boards where did the who wanted to argue about "values" go? If I value a Paris hotel costing 400$, so be it. Dont atack me. It's one of MY values. (Incidentally, in 1958 my quite comfortable hotel in Madrid cost me $2.50/night. Yikes.)
Feb 8th, 2007, 02:38 AM
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Ack, Robjame, I just re-read my post and it sounds a bit more challenging than I intended. I mean my questions to be in the academic spirit of inquiry, not of putting you on the rack.
(Yours I find to be quite an interesting question, how we perceive and estimate value. Is it a deliberate, or an unconscious thing?)
(Yours I find to be quite an interesting question, how we perceive and estimate value. Is it a deliberate, or an unconscious thing?)
Feb 8th, 2007, 03:23 AM
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Sue - Your tone was fine and the content excellent as usual.
This post was prompted by a number of posts which seemed to begin with the premise that unless you spent €X you could not find a clean, well-located, charming, serviceable hotel room with AC. I chose €100 because we stayed a couple of times at Residence Monge which we believe is all these things for that price. At that time there was even an article (NY Times I think) that perpetuated the myth. I believe a number of new travelers begin their hotel hunt with that belief.
The Paris Hilton comment was a bit of a play on the name plus the idea of being compted there.
The real question was "so what is it that makes it worth it to spend more?" Some people have answered that question very well stating the "things" they need.
I reject the idea that a person with money spends it because thay have it. Unlike Neo, I don't personally know any billionaires but the people whomI know who have money behave the way they are described in "The Millionaire Next Door" - they are "careful" with their money. They don't throw it around.
BTW - I believe I could answer the question as to why we spend the money on dining without becoming defensive or offensive. It would take this discussion in another direction. It is fodor (fodder? fooder?) for another thread.
This post was prompted by a number of posts which seemed to begin with the premise that unless you spent €X you could not find a clean, well-located, charming, serviceable hotel room with AC. I chose €100 because we stayed a couple of times at Residence Monge which we believe is all these things for that price. At that time there was even an article (NY Times I think) that perpetuated the myth. I believe a number of new travelers begin their hotel hunt with that belief.
The Paris Hilton comment was a bit of a play on the name plus the idea of being compted there.
The real question was "so what is it that makes it worth it to spend more?" Some people have answered that question very well stating the "things" they need.
I reject the idea that a person with money spends it because thay have it. Unlike Neo, I don't personally know any billionaires but the people whomI know who have money behave the way they are described in "The Millionaire Next Door" - they are "careful" with their money. They don't throw it around.
BTW - I believe I could answer the question as to why we spend the money on dining without becoming defensive or offensive. It would take this discussion in another direction. It is fodor (fodder? fooder?) for another thread.
Feb 8th, 2007, 04:42 AM
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Most people who I know who are in the wealthier brackets are actually frugal when it comes to rooms (I am more frugal now than I used to be). To me, 100 Euros in Europe better be really nice, in an extra special area (like on Mont St. Michel) or a self-catering type place. 
This last trip, we didn't usually spend much more than $100 USD per night - and that included our 5 nights in London, and 5 in Paris. We did spend more on the EQ-2 in Edinburgh, about $175.00 per night US, but we also ate our dinners in (I cooked), and they put food for breakfast in the refrigerator - and we had a washer/dryer. We also had a 2 bedrooom unit, and Molten Brown products in the shower (well worth the money for me in this case).
It's the same thing though at places like Walt Disney World. My favorite resort is the Polynesian, but one of my other favorites is the Pop Century. I can get the Pop for about 1/5 the price of the Polynesian. So that is where I generally stay. I just can't justify the extra cost anymore (I'd rather spend more nights - just like in Europe - and pay less per night).
This last trip, we didn't usually spend much more than $100 USD per night - and that included our 5 nights in London, and 5 in Paris. We did spend more on the EQ-2 in Edinburgh, about $175.00 per night US, but we also ate our dinners in (I cooked), and they put food for breakfast in the refrigerator - and we had a washer/dryer. We also had a 2 bedrooom unit, and Molten Brown products in the shower (well worth the money for me in this case).It's the same thing though at places like Walt Disney World. My favorite resort is the Polynesian, but one of my other favorites is the Pop Century. I can get the Pop for about 1/5 the price of the Polynesian. So that is where I generally stay. I just can't justify the extra cost anymore (I'd rather spend more nights - just like in Europe - and pay less per night).
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