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Why a Fodorites' trip? and who would want to go on one?

Why a Fodorites' trip? and who would want to go on one?

Apr 27th, 2001, 07:40 PM
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Mel:

There's nothing magic or mystical about spending a week in a villa in Europe.This certainly isn't a novel idea that Rex has come up with, although it's probably a good one for his tour. People have been doing it for decades. It's an economic alternative to staying in hotels and it often allows you to experience daily life in a way you can't as a visitor staying in more traditional accommodations. Try it next time you go - you'll save money and have a completely new experience. With the internet, it's possible now to get access to literally thousands of properties throughout Europe in all price ranges.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 08:02 PM
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StCirq is right; I certainly didn't invent the idea of staying in a villa. But I would like to emphasize that staying in a villa big enough to have a NICE living room, and other "group space" is typically out of the price range for the average couple or even medium-sized families. Villas are typically priced to get what the market will bear - - and there are enough groups of ten or more that they can get the kind of bucks that ten people would want to throw in together to rent. Typically, these are big or extended families, or popular among Europeans (I think) is for two families of 4-6 each to rent one together.

But to answer your question, Mel, yes, four times before; twice in France and twice in Italy:

First time was in Tuscany, my wife and I with 11 teenagers (our 3 daughters, 6 cousins and 2 boyfriends). A "villa" is a "catch-all" term for all kinds of "free-standing rental house" properties. This one was a "farmhouse" (?) that may have been originally 40 years old or 200 years old - - somewhat hard for me to say. It had a swimming pool that was three MONTHS old - - there is a lot of competitive pressure to fix up "old places" in Italy - - and to make places that are NOT so old "seem" old, quaint and historic. This one was a great price ($1700 for the week, in June 98), but its location was "so-so" - - not at all close to anything - - even 12 km to a grocery store.

In Sep 99, my wife and I stayed one night in a "castle" - - this one "authentic" to the 12th century, supposedly (I feel reasonably that its footings were that old at least) - - we were offered the opportunity to a "test night" there for only $75 as we were considering it for a group in summer of 2000. Its owner is still very much "in progress" bringing it back up to snuff - - which makes it interesting to me, but I notice that the agent who put us there has since dropped listing it.

The following months I stayed at a fantastic "chateau" in the south of France (near Grasse) that was formerly owned by Mr. Christian Dior (from the 1930's to the 1970's) with a "small group" (my dad and a friend, plus a family of four from Switzerland) for four days - - it was outside the normal season, and it was offered to us at half price.

I returned there last summer with my biggest group trip yet - - 14 adults plus my wife and me. It was a glorious week.

I look forward to our week at Lake Garda to combine some features of my first Tuscany stay (somewhat more rustic, more "low-key") - - with the more adult (but not "adult" as in XXX) camaraderie that characterized the trip I led last summer.

May I assume that I can add you to our "mailing list"? Write me, or just acknowledge here.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 08:06 PM
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Just as an FYI, we can't access geocities.com from China. I have no idea why. We also can't access xoom.com. We can, however, access msn.com and ivillage, both of which have free webpage building and hosting services.

Personally, I can't attend the trip, and I'm not sure how many other Fodorites are in China (only a couple as far as I know), but this is just an FYI in case you really want to make it globally accessible. I therefore also never got to see the Fodor pin design . . .
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 08:36 PM
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Really, Andrea? Well, I guess I learn something new every day, if I live long enough.

As I mentioned before, I haven't made that much progress yet, but I will take a look at what would be involved in duplicating my few pages on Geocities under www.msn.com if I acn figure out their system.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 09:00 PM
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Okay, andrea - - I don't feel like I get the hang of how to create a "real" web page on www.msn.com (where I write all the HTML) - - but I guess I created a new page on the "MSN communities" under "Europe Travel".

I put the "essay" titled "Why a Fodorites' trip? and who would want to go on one?" and put it on the message board there. If I understand this correctly, you can access the message board there (and post to it, I guess) with this URL:

http://communities.msn.com/RexBickers/messageboard.msnw

Let me know if this works for you in China.

And I will work on trying to understand the other "components" of "personal home pages" (Photo Album, File Cabinet, etc) they provide there.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 10:55 PM
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Anyone have any doubt by now that Capo and Rex are one in the same? Seems Capo's only "raison d'etre" is to defend Rex from all his detractors!
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 11:09 PM
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s. fowler, I plan to complain to Fodor's too, and I urge anyone else who is tired of this guy using Fodor's for his own self-serving promotional efforts to complain as well.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 11:20 PM
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Rex buddy, you don't have to worry about anyone who questions your motives or opportunities, because you don't need any help chasing people away. You're digging your own grave with the constant insults, name-calling and shrill hysteria that characterizes all your posts. Why would ANYONE allow you to "plan" their trip for them, much less want to travel with you? You can't handle the slightest irritation and are constantly on the shrill defensive because you are unwilling/unable to let anything roll off your back. You're the type most try to AVOID traveling with, no one wants that kind of aggravation and tension during their vacation. Sheesh.
 
Apr 27th, 2001, 11:23 PM
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Rex may not be pocketing actual cash from all these oh-so-willing to be led group members of his, but he's profiting all right. Book ten rooms in a hotel and ask for one room to be comped, since you're bringing in so much business....guess who gets the comped room? Find restaurants which are willing to comp your meals in exchange for the group business you bring them. Hire transportation for a group, make sure they give YOU a free ride.

Travel agents get perks and freebies like this all the time. All this planning and effort just out of the goodness of lil ol Rex's heart, huh? He just loves to take groups and spends every day on Fodor's site soliciting business. Everyone should get in on this business!! Promote yourself as a "hobby traveler" (sure is an all-consuming hobby for the guy, isn't it?), gather a bunch of suckers who will follow you wide-eyed, and arrange a free trip to Europe for yourself!

Fodor's will allow you troll for customers on their site unfettered, so you have a target market, and you don't have to pay to advertise. What could be easier? Now, start posting a bunch of fake support/interest responses to your ads, just to show that you really do have a following and everyone loves you. What could be more legit than a stranger on the internet who wants to "plan" your trip for you? Especially when soooooo MANY other total strangers are posting in support of it?

Whatever you do though, don't MAKE him get mad!! See, he doesn't control his own behavior and emotions, YOU do! Now, isn't that just the kind of tour guide you always hoped you'd find?

 
Apr 27th, 2001, 11:24 PM
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Okay, I learned my lesson this morning. No more anger. Just facts.

Accusations that I am getting a "comped" room or a free ride or paying one penny less than any of the other participants are the words of a brazen and cowardly liar.

It's libelous, and Fodor's ought to be willing and even happy to investigate the IP of this malicious posting.

And no, I will not make all the decisions of where the group goes; there will be freedom to make separate dining plans, side trips of half days, overnights or longer.

The postings at 6:09 pm and 6:16 pm are from petty jealous people who deserve to be depressed at their slithery snake-like behavior, once they realize how low they really are.

Imagine what I would have said if I were mad.


 
Apr 27th, 2001, 11:26 PM
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If "Fodor's ought to be willing and even happy to investigate the IP of this malicious posting" then I hope they are equally willing to enforce their own site rules and delete your constant personal promotion here.

Rex, you are quite funny, if your anger and name-calling doesn't frighten off your dissenters, then you resort to threats -- you'll have Fodor's investigate all the IPs of your naysayers!! They may even come to your house and arrest you, or at the very least, slap you with a multi-million dollar lawsuit!! Yeah, that's why Fodor's maintains this site, so they can vigorously prosecute all those who try to thwart Rex Bicker's business promotion on their site. Better get ready for those countersuits Rex, because you've lobbed more names and insults at people than anyone on this site. You may want to consider less time planning trips and more time in anger management classes.

You are as pathetically ridiculous as you are laughable!! hahahahaha!

 
Apr 28th, 2001, 11:26 AM
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Anyone else notice Rex's attempt to squelch any dissent by copying and pasting the portions of this original thread to a new header? He conveniently omitted any posts which questioned his motives, as if to make it seem like Fodor's edited the post. Then he tried to bury the original and bring the new self-edited post to the top.

What are you trying so desperately to hide Rex, hmmmmmm? You're a very manipulative person -- not exactly the kind of sight-unseen tour guide that people would be willing to hand their money to. Get ready for a fresh batch of denials and name calling from your non-friendly, non-guide Rex!!!
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 11:40 AM
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different, re: your comment: "Anyone have any doubt by now that Capo and Rex are one in the same? Seems Capo's only "raison d'etre" is to defend Rex from all his detractors!"

OK, OK, I'm busted! Yes, I'm actually Rex. I also shot JFK...but I swear that I've NEVER been responsible for the death of any raisins.

 
Apr 28th, 2001, 11:46 AM
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Why is Fodor's so negligent about enforcing its own "no promotion" rules? This Rex character is here, in force, every single time I visit this site. I have never seen anyone post this manically and obnoxiously in three years of site visits.

I'm getting fed up. Fodor's is turning into the same haven for shanty advertisers that Frommer's and all the others have become.

Time to take my travel talk (and dollars) elsewhere.
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 04:52 PM
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Another attempted whitewashing job so you can't see the true Rex, only the advertising he WANTS you see! To the TIPPY top!!
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:02 PM
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Thanks for the vendetta, helpful hands.

Apparently, if nothing else, I can count you to keep this at the top.

sigh...
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:21 PM
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Just trying to keep all the ads together! Love the new Rex Site! Fodors.com was lousy anyway, All Rex is the way to go!
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:21 PM
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Rex, you can't win--it's not even worth trying. No matter how hard you work at appropriate responses, they just come back with more venom. I just wish I could afford to join you on your trip this time--unfortunately, my entire overseas travel budget is going for my trip to Spain. Also, I'll be in school. (I'm finally giving in to my addiction to travel and going back to school [at the ripe old age of 50+] to start a second career in travel and tourism, so that will curtail my travel a little bit for at least a year.) Anyway, I say ignore all the "naysayers". I just figure they are so insecure in themselves that they feel threatened and come out on the defensive, from an offensive posture. Personally, I have better things to do with my time, and I'm sure you can figure out a few things to do with yours too. Good luck with this trip. (I was going to say "your trip", but that would just give the naysayers something to grab ahold of.) Maybe I'll be able to join you on your next one.
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:36 PM
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Oh Rex, you're the perpetual victim, poor you! Yes, we'll just disregard the inappropriate and apparently uncontrolled venom and invective that you yourself dish out, because we know that when you feel your promo "rights" on Fodor's are threatened, you quickly change from perpetrator to victim. Boo hoo
 
Apr 28th, 2001, 05:41 PM
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C'mon guys. Either sign your name and email and stand behind what you say or stuff it. I'm not fond of Rex and his ego, but I'm less fond of cowards posting anonymous invective.
 

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