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elaine Sep 24th, 2004 06:47 AM

Categories of any kind are troublesome if we make assumptions about what the title 'always' means.
There are different kinds of Christians, different kinds of Muslims, different kinds of accountants, different kinds of art-lovers, different kinds of gays, heteros, and
kindergarten teachers.
In each case there are nice people, phony people, educated people, genuine people,, etc.
Of course.

I think the simplest explanations above, without pejoratives or praise, are those by degas and ira.
A factual definition might make a foody similar to a gourmet, a person who appreciates the preparation, consumption, history, and trends, of food and drink.

Everything beyond that depends on the person.


Kavey Sep 24th, 2004 07:56 AM

As Kate said, for some of us the enjoyment of food is a high priority in life, both at home and whilst travelling.

I'm definitely a foodie. I don't have any pejorative feelings about those to whom food is just fuel since many of my good friends are in that category, but I do have one thing less in common with them and those are the friends I tend not to travel with or to enjoy going to restaurants with.

But not to have food as a high priority for others is no different to the fact that I give a very low priority indeed to clothes, shoes - fashion in general. Some of my friends are wide-eyed, shall we say, about the stuff I'll wear in public!

Horses for courses...

Patrick, I knew a chap who was THE most awful foodie pretender. He's very into cooking but seems to have no idea whatsoever of things that work well together and things which don't - if he does a meal every single dish in it will be over the top fancy to the point that it's actually sickening. Imagine a cooked breakfast where the sausages are wrapped in italian ham, the bacon is coated in mustard and honey, the beans are flavoured with, I don't know, balsamic vinegar, the tomatoes have been grilled with ginger etc etc. He likes to show off about the work involved but... the results never merit the effort. He also often makes sweeping statements of the kind you gave as an example... it's truly cringeworthy.

lexluther Sep 24th, 2004 08:21 AM

I don't think being a foodie has anything to do with spending a lot of money on food. I think it has more to do with sampling the local cuisine that is specific to the area. Many fixed price menus offer superb value and are not that much more than stopping at a mcdonalds - and well worth the difference for variety, ambience, and taste. That being said, having a crepe in paris, roasted nuts in london from a street vendor can be just as enjoyable. For me the food makes up a big part of the trip and I am very happy to spend a little more to sample something unique. I cannot describe the taste of anchovies in the languedoc region of France (as well as Catalonia). We do not have anything like it in the US. ditto for cappucino - starbucks is very different to a real italian cappucino. The bread in France is delicious and dirt cheap as is the wine in most of Europe. So a foodie could just as well be someone who stops on the side of the seine to eat a picnic lunch (instead of grabbing street food) as someone who spends four hours over a leisurely five course meal. Only the latter is dependant on budget.

elaine Sep 24th, 2004 08:25 AM

Julia Child, one of the great foodies of all time, loved foie gras, as well as good bread and cheese, hated the ubiquitous American boneless chicken breast (low in fat, but low in taste as far as she was concerned)and loved McDonald's French fries.

she cared about the enjoyment of food, regardless of pedigree, pretention, popularity, or price.

Kavey Sep 24th, 2004 08:29 AM

Lexluther, I agree that one does need to spend lots of money in order to have wonderful food experiences...


Kavey Sep 24th, 2004 08:34 AM

Elaine
I am with her:
Some of my favourite foods in no order:

Foie Gras
Mangoes
Lobster
A Burger King Whopper
Doner kebabs, you know the ones sliced off that rotating thingy and served in pitta with a salad!
Good steak, medium rare

janeg Sep 24th, 2004 08:51 AM

Ira writes-
>>My younger one was more diplomatic. We would have this dialog about 4 nights a week:
"Have I had this before"?
"Yes".
"Did I like it"?
"Yes".
"Well, I don't like it anymore".>>

That made my day. Thank you1

I have quests- to find the perfect chicken salad, cole slaw, crab cake and baby back ribs. Found the slaw & crab cake, but the places closed. Still, the search goes on.

Christina Sep 24th, 2004 09:13 AM

I think the definition and attitude really depends if you think you are in the foodie category -- at least by some of the above responses. For example, I do not remotely consider myself a foodie, but that doesn't mean I eat sandwiches on the run, buy from street vendors or jam stuff down my throat. It also does NOT mean that I don't enjoy a good meal or that eating in foreign restaurants is not a major enjoyable part of my vacation.

It is and I do like a good meal. To me, what it means is that I don't spend a lot of time reading about restaurants, planning my meals, having particular restaurants as events or destinations, etc., not worry about particular chefs or some special preparation or dish I must have.

I really like to eat and much food, within reason (I don't eat breakfast much and may skip a meal just because I forget or am busy), but I don't focus on it as a major part of my planning and think many 30-50 euro dinners are just grand. It does NOT mean I don't enjoy food or a good meal.

cigalechanta Sep 24th, 2004 09:35 AM

I hate the word foodie, I like real food that is not disguised with fancy sauces. I'll research for a restaurant to find if the food is not of that sort. The local cafes in villages is where the real food is at, plus you get to maybe meet the locals.

ira Sep 24th, 2004 10:39 AM

>...I like real food that is not disguised with fancy sauces. <

I like real food that is enhanced by well-considered sauces. :)

ira Sep 24th, 2004 10:44 AM

A foodie is someone who, when hearing Rudi Maxa say, "It is a law in Italy that each meal must have at least three courses" knows it isn't so.

Yes, he did on "Genoa and the Italian Riviera".

Lexma90 Sep 24th, 2004 10:51 AM

Here's another take on being a foodie - which I'll admit that I am, whether folks think it's a good thing or not. We're definitely the folks who stay at medium-priced restaurants, and spend the money saved on a high-end fancy restaurant.

A foodie loves good food, prepared well, could be fancy but not necessarily. To me, the difference between a foodie and a chowhound is that a foodie (this one, anyway) is also concerned with the meal as an experience, and the surroundings and ambience can play a large role in that. A chowhound would probably say that part of it isn't important. That's not to say I don't love cheap meals in non-discreipt surroundings - I do, for certain kinds of food. But mostly, when I'm going to spend the money, I want to spend it on a delightful experience all around.

The amount of time I've spent on planning our meals for our upcoming Italy trip, you wouldn't believe...

cigalechanta Sep 24th, 2004 10:52 AM

Shame on him. I didn't catch that and will look for the repeat.

SiobhanP Sep 24th, 2004 11:13 AM

I am with Deirdre, slowfood to me is an example of a foodie ethos. Good seasonal food, natural ingredients, and eaten to be enjoyed. You can also be a picky eater and still be a foodie. I read a restaurant review about a meal the critic had in his travels in Asia. he is Italian and said of one dish even he could and would not eat it (It was something vile). I also LOVE pizza....I make my own suace, dough and combinations out of frustration from not finding decent pizza in Dublin years ago...am I not a foodie beacause its not oysters and chamers? Try my pizza sometime!

I do know Kate about the disgusting gourmets you refer to . Its almost like a contest of who is more clever and the results of some of the meals can be revolting. A friend who is very successful in their humble restaurant makes everything from the most basic ingredients and what ever is left in the kitchen. There are queues for their salads, thats what I see as great food. I also love chips on a Friday night after my pint too...garlic mayo for me though!

chepar Sep 24th, 2004 11:28 AM

I've always thought that a good example of a foodie is Anthony Bourdain - the guy that does that "Cook's Tour" show on tv.

I absolutely love his show - his travels to different locations around the world and trying the local foods - his equal enjoyment of simple street vendor food and food from a top restaurant is great.

USNR Sep 24th, 2004 06:58 PM

Call this "Confessions of a Former Foodie." Or "Foodiste"? Or "Foody."

About a year ago, my wife and I decided enough is too much. We had to lose weight. No compromises, no excuses, no fun.

So now, thanks to tons of will power and persistence, we are EACH down about 27 pounds and dropping. Clothes hang that once were too tight.

Our "over-foodie-ness" meant that we had to give up: bacon, candy, chocolate, sugar, most fried foods, ham, most eggs, white bread, pies, cakes, pastries, too much cheese, cream in our coffee, beer.

But we rediscovered: fruit, cereals, black bread, broiled meat (no bigger than the palm of our hand), fish, incomparable vegetable dishes, etc.

Now we are preparing to go to India on a long journey across the subcontinent. Will we return to our old foodie ways? Will we succumb to India's spicy cooking? Will we regain our hard-lost pounds? Will life sans chocolate be worth surviving at all? The addiction means that we are only recovering, never cured.

Clifton Sep 24th, 2004 07:09 PM


Would a person who centered their vacation around finding the perfect hotel be called a sleepy?

cmt Sep 24th, 2004 07:13 PM

I have no opinion, since I never use this term, but there's a whole thread about this: http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...mp;tid=1286565

HuisClos Sep 24th, 2004 08:12 PM

The McDonald's hamburger was also a big hit on Julia Child's list.

I explain foodies in more simplistic form: There are people who eat to live, and people who live to eat. I think you can figure out which one is the foodie.

beaker Sep 24th, 2004 08:50 PM

Dear USNR,

Congratulations on your dedication to health. You will not only stay on your wholesome lifestyle in India, but I bet you will lose more weight by consuming those Indian spices, which add zest to life without the calories. The net result for you is that you will travel many more years to many other such fascinating places. My compliments to you! ( Go ahead and have some chocolate however...some things one must have ).


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