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TullahR Apr 15th, 2014 10:51 AM

Which town to stay at in Lake Como?
 
Hi All,

My boyfriend and I are going to be stopping at Lake Como (Tuesday-Friday) in mid-September. We will be taking the train in from Milan.

I can't decide between Bellagio, Veranna, and Menaggio. We are both 30 years old and are looking for a town with good food, wine, and things to do. I understand we can travel by boat to any of the towns relatively quickly, but would like to hear some suggestions. We enjoy activities, hiking, etc and plan on visiting some of the local gardens.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Kasia

SeeDee Apr 15th, 2014 12:14 PM

With your short time window and the fact that you are without a car, I would opt for Varenna, the only one of the three towns with a direct rail link to Milan. We have stayed in both Bellagio and Varenna at different times (Bellagio with a car), and while Bellagio may have the edge in terms of shops and restaurants, having to factor in the ferry timetable into your itinerary getting to and from your hotel is not worth it.
As you are already aware, the ferry service gets you around very efficiently during the daytime and Bellagio is only minutes away when you decide to visit the town.

In terms of things to do.....
From Varenna itself, you can hike up to Castle Vezio for great views of the lake; for a longer hike, take the train to the next northernmost stop, Bellano, and hike the Sentiero del Viandante back to town.
Varenna itself has a reasonable selection of cafes and restaurants, many with lake views. Our favourite was the rooftop balcony at Ristorante la Vista.
Villa Monastero is the town's principal attraction - colourful lakeshore gardens.
A visit to Bellagio should include the gardens at the Villa Melzi, a short walk from the town itself. If you happen to be in town at lunchtime or in the evening, Bilacus is a restaurant worth seeking out.
We are fairly keen walkers so on one of our days in Varenna we took the ferry to Sala Comincina and walked part of the Lake Como Greenway; nothing too strenuous, a pleasant lunch in Lenno (Albergo Plinio) and onward to visit the fabulous gardens at Villa Carlotta. There is a direct ferry link from there, back to Varenna. An extra option on the walk is to incorporate a visit to Villa Balbianello if time allows.

bobthenavigator Apr 15th, 2014 12:31 PM

Good input above.
Be sure to get a RT ticket to/from Milano and Varenna. The station is not manned.

adrienne Apr 15th, 2014 01:44 PM

I stayed in Bellagio and didn't think it was a big deal to walk to the Varenna ferry dock and get the boat. You'll only need to do this twice; it's not a lifetime commitment!

I felt there were more restaurants in Bellagio and more evening activity and people wandering around. The boats don't run late so you'll need to have dinner in whatever town you stay in.

Where are you going after Lake Como? Back to Milan?

PalenQ Apr 15th, 2014 01:48 PM

I stayed in Como itself and loved it - a really nice city with an old center - nice lakeside promenades and everything a city offers - not a tourist inundated small town like Bellagio.

Holly_uncasdewar Apr 15th, 2014 03:47 PM

Nice to hear someone else who enjoys the town of Como, Pal!

Jean Apr 15th, 2014 04:17 PM

Before you decide where to sleep, you should make a list of what you want to see/do while you're there, note where these sights are located, then study the ferry timetables and develop a daily plan.

The September ferry schedules won't be posted for at least another few weeks, but you can get an idea of how long the rides are, order of the stops, etc.:

http://www.navigazionelaghi.it/eng/c_orari.asp

You'll see the mid-lake ferries in both directions stop in Bellagio, so if sights on the western shore (V. Carlotta, V. Balbianello, bus to Lugano) are high on your list then staying in Bellagio would mean less time riding ferries. For example, Bellagio to V. Balbianello is 30 minutes one way versus 45 minutes from Varenna.

There are hiking opportunities from all three of the mid-lake towns but probably most easily accessible from Varenna, or you could also take a train (hour or less) from Varenna into the mountains to Morbegno or Sondrio for more hiking. Castello Vezio is well worth a visit for the falconry and beautiful views, and we enjoyed touring the Moto Guzzi factory and museum in Mandello (easy by train from Varenna).

If you have any interest in pro cycling, the tiny chapel to Madonna del Ghisallo (patron saint of cyclists) and the adjacent Museo del Ciclismo are about 10 kms. south of Bellagio. The last pro race of the season (Giro di Lombardia) always stops at the chapel for a blessing. Oct. 5th this year.

We've stayed in all three of the mid-lake towns. Menaggio was too big for me but is very convenient for the western shore sights I mentioned. I think the views from Varenna are the best, but the most attractive town IMO is Bellagio.

mmodrich Apr 15th, 2014 04:31 PM

I agree that Bellagio would be my top choice. Catching the ferry is not a big deal and doesn't take that long. I also felt there was more to do in Bellagio. We also made the mistake of not booking a round trip ticket and had to go to a travel agent in Bellagio to help us get train tickets.

packed Apr 15th, 2014 07:42 PM

Como city wouldn't be my first choice to stay. To me it's a better place to shop and much larger, more like a city, but doesn't have the lakeside, charming feel of Bellagio and Varenna. We have stayed in both Bellagio and Varenna twice each, and like both, but would definitely recommend Bellagio for your age group. Neither town has much night life but Varenna really doesn't have any. Our favorite thing to do from each city is to take the ferries to different destinations along the lake.

Dukey1 Apr 15th, 2014 10:39 PM

Catching the ferry BACK OVER from Bellagio to Varenna very much can be a "big deal" depending on when you want to take the train back to Milan. Be sure to find out what the ferry schedules are; yes they are frequent depending on time of year but they are not necessarily good for making every train.

ReillyQ Apr 16th, 2014 05:09 AM

Several years ago we stayed in Varenna in September and truly enjoyed it. We did do the ferry and visited the other towns, Bellagio for a lunch and shopping, and others. Varenna is a very quaint town. We stayed at Laura's Albero Olivedo, a terrific place with wonderful food, sometimes noisy with the dock right there, but the lines at night for dinner attested to how good the food was (at least when we were there). We also toured there the Villa Monastero with their beautiful gardens and the "Passerella", their romantic boardwalk on the lake. Laura was a great host and extremely helpful.

ReillyQ Apr 16th, 2014 05:11 AM

Sorry for the spelling it was "Albergo" Olivedo, I think it has been in the family a long time.

NYCFoodSnob Apr 16th, 2014 05:13 AM

<i><font color=#555555>"Como city wouldn't be my first choice to stay."</font></i>

Good grief. No sensible person with taste and vision would go to Lake Como to <i>stay</i> in Como. OK, so Como is a small Italian town with lakefront property and a hill or two to view, but let's get real. Como offers very little visual charm when compared to other parts of the lake. Como provides access to transportation, or perhaps some fine silk, or a segway to Villa d'Este, but to actually base yourself there for a visit to Lake Como? What a waste.

<i><font color=#555555>"would definitely recommend Bellagio for your age group"</font></i>

Never heard that one before. I had to go back to the OP to see if the tourists were old farts. There are plenty of seniors with canes trying to climb those stairs in Bellagio.

<i><font color=#555555>"Neither town has much night life but Varenna really doesn't have any."</font></i>

Not sure how anyone defines "night life." No city on Lake Como is Ibiza. IMO, Varenna has the most "buzz" in the evening along the lake, partly because the sun sets on the cafe chairs lining the shore. And most of those merry folks making all that merriment noise tend to be young lovers drinking more than they should.

Bellagio is far from hip. It's more like an old-money version of Disneyland in Europe for the mature. And the Grand Hotel Villa Serbelloni deserves to be a much better hotel. I enjoy my visits to Bellagio, but staying there offers too many limitations. The views from Bellagio are half as exciting as those found in Varenna because Bellagio faces west and sits in the middle of the lake. IMO, there simply is no argument to justify geographical inconvenience.

Menaggio is one big bore, and Tremezzo is fun if you have a car and get to swim in the floating pool at Grand Hotel Tremezzo. But crossing the street in your swimsuit is so tacky. Both cities offer an interesting visit, but staying there? Not for me.

Lady1 Apr 16th, 2014 05:48 AM

We visited Bellagio, but can't say we were tempted to stay there. We stayed in Varenna At Eremo Gaudio and loved it! The views from the terrace dining area were amazing. But be prepared for a climb to get to it.

CaWino Apr 16th, 2014 07:35 AM

We stayed in Bellagio for three days and loved it. We day tripped to Varenna and that is wonderful, too. You can't go wrong wherever you choose. Bellagio seemed slightly bigger with more options. Varenna does have the rail link.

HowardR Apr 16th, 2014 07:47 AM

I'd say it boils down to one question: How much luggage do you have? If the answer is "Not much," then I'd opt for Bellagio for all the reasons previously mention. However, if you have a lot of lo\uggage, then Varenna seems more logical, since staying in Bellagio would mean the nuisance of having to carry your luggage on and off the ferry, etc.

pctraveler Apr 16th, 2014 12:48 PM

My wife and I (who admittedly are well past 30) stayed at the Hotel Metropole in Bellagio for several days a couple of years ago and enjoyed it tremendously. I don't suggest that you would overwhelmed by the nightlife, but that did not seem to be the lead in your criteria. It is right on the lake and is near a fair amount of shopping (shops, boutiques) and restaurants. They also have one of the most helpful staffs I have found in a European hotel: example, we took our Mac laptop with us, but forgot an essential part of the plug (Macs have a two-part power cord). When I noticed it, I went around the town but did find any sort of electronics store so I asked the staff if they would charge my laptop; they went one better -- they had recently upgraded their Mac systems in the hotel and gave me a spare power cord. I have always remembered this kindness.

HowardR Apr 16th, 2014 01:37 PM

Ten years ago we had a marvelous experience at the Belvedere Hotel in Bellagio. Wonderful staff, great views of the lake. Check out its website--belvederebellagio.com. For the best rates, do a Google search of the hotel.

TullahR Apr 17th, 2014 06:37 AM

Thank you for all of the feedback! We are going to have a large suitcases with us, so I'm thinking Varenna is the way to go. Definitely going to be taking the ferry over to Bellagio for the day as well. After Lake Como, we are heading to Florence for a wedding and plan on doing a tour while we are there.

Nightlife isn't so important to us as we will be going out in Florence, so we don't mind relaxing at the quieter towns.

I will be sure to take all of your suggestions into consideration when planning our itineraries.

Jean Apr 17th, 2014 07:09 AM

IMO, getting on and off trains with large suitcases will be much more difficult than getting on and off the ferry. Be at the doors and ready to get off at Varenna as the train only stops for 1-2 minutes. Ditto for the train leaving Varenna; be ready to get on before it arrives. Don't spend time on the outside looking for a car with fewer occupied seats.

Better yet, reconsider the large suitcases and/or leave one of them at the Milano Centrale train station to be retrieved on your return trip.

NYCFoodSnob Apr 17th, 2014 07:14 AM

Hope your suitcases have strong wheels. Be prepared to struggle with suitcases no matter where you go in Italy. Lake Como has its own issues. Varenna can be steep, and depending on where you stay, you may need to deal with steep steps.

It starts to get cold in late August around the lake. It can get quite cold in September.

Varenna is a very convenient base. Of all the cities along the lake, I think Varenna offers the most charm and authenticity. There's only one car road that goes through the city, and its path is fairly straight. So, to access homes, hotels, and restaurants on the side of the mountain, you walk steep stairs and designated pathways. This can be a challenge with luggage.

Bellagio is a bit more spread out, with a few winding streets for cars that lead up the mountain to Via Garibaldi. Most of the hotels are on the lower strip near the ferry docks. Bellagio offers many more retail shopping options, lower level and upper. I love to shop, but I don't visit Lake Como for that reason. I can't remember the last time I purchased a gift from Lake Como. Varenna is not great for shopping choices, so I'm delighted that the shoppers go elsewhere.

Since Bellagio is in the center of the lake, it can offer 360º views. But, in order to experience them, you need to climb to the top, and there really isn't a perfect place to situate yourself for a clear view, except on the roof of the Belvedere Hotel, which is my favorite on Bellagio. If you can't do the Belvedere, you have to move around a bit to take in the entire magical vista.

Bellagio is the most famous city in the mid-lake region, therefore, most tourists visit it daily. The ferry area is often wall-to-wall people, especially on weekends. I never see it that crowded at the Varenna ferry docks.

lukehead Apr 21st, 2014 05:20 PM

There's lots more going on in Bellagio but......I loved Varenna. Lovely walks, good food, a gentle town not over run with shoppers and day trippers. An uncrowded beach, beautuful scenery. Would return to Varenna in a minute!

DebitNM Jan 21st, 2015 12:07 PM

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Iwan2go Mar 12th, 2015 10:18 AM

Since this has been resurrected...what about Cadenabbia di Griante? I see a lovely place to stay there, and it looks like ferry service to both Bellagio and Varenna is available. Looks like there are frequent ferrys to both Bellagio (10 minutes) and Varenna (34 minutes).

Comments? We’d be going in 2016, probably late May-early June.

Thanks.

MarySteveChicago Mar 23rd, 2015 01:51 PM

Was considering Lake Como in Sept until I saw NYC's comment that it could be cold then. Perhaps Aug would be better but do Italian shops and restaurants close down in August as they do in France? Mary

annw Mar 23rd, 2015 02:04 PM

Another vote for Bellagio!

HowardR Mar 23rd, 2015 02:12 PM

We were at Lake Como and loved it there in October. I clearly remember sitting at outdoor cafes (and have photographs to prove it!). And, yes, just about everything was open.

Margyclark Jul 30th, 2019 02:20 PM

is staying in Como really such a bad decision?
 
ON the advice of friends, we plan to sty in Lake Como. Now you've got me worried. I'd love to hear from others who have stayed there and loved it!



Originally Posted by NYCFoodSnob (Post 11699304)
<i><font color=#555555>"Como city wouldn't be my first choice to stay."</font></i>

Good grief. No sensible person with taste and vision would go to Lake Como to <i>stay</i> in Como. OK, so Como is a small Italian town with lakefront property and a hill or two to view, but let's get real. Como offers very little visual charm when compared to other parts of the lake. Como provides access to transportation, or perhaps some fine silk, or a segway to Villa d'Este, but to actually base yourself there for a visit to Lake Como? What a waste.

<i><font color=#555555>"would definitely recommend Bellagio for your age group"</font></i>

Never heard that one before. I had to go back to the OP to see if the tourists were old farts. There are plenty of seniors with canes trying to climb those stairs in Bellagio.

<i><font color=#555555>"Neither town has much night life but Varenna really doesn't have any."</font></i>

Not sure how anyone defines "night life." No city on Lake Como is Ibiza. IMO, Varenna has the most "buzz" in the evening along the lake, partly because the sun sets on the cafe chairs lining the shore. And most of those merry folks making all that merriment noise tend to be young lovers drinking more than they should.

Bellagio is far from hip. It's more like an old-money version of Disneyland in Europe for the mature. And the Grand Hotel Villa Serbelloni deserves to be a much better hotel. I enjoy my visits to Bellagio, but staying there offers too many limitations. The views from Bellagio are half as exciting as those found in Varenna because Bellagio faces west and sits in the middle of the lake. IMO, there simply is no argument to justify geographical inconvenience.

Menaggio is one big bore, and Tremezzo is fun if you have a car and get to swim in the floating pool at Grand Hotel Tremezzo. But crossing the street in your swimsuit is so tacky. Both cities offer an interesting visit, but staying there? Not for me.


HappyTrvlr Jul 30th, 2019 03:53 PM

We have visited Lake Como four times and always stayed in Bellagio away from the dock area. We have traveled the entire lake by ferry, having lunch in different towns, visiting villas and gardens. It is a beautiful place, lots to see and do.

Jean Jul 30th, 2019 05:05 PM

I have only spent one night in the town of Como for an easy and short trip to Malpensa the next morning. I wouldn't choose to stay there again other than for airport access and certainly not if my goal was to explore the villas, gardens and towns in the mid-lake area which would require too much time traveling around and being limited/tied to timetables.

I like both Bellagio and Varenna for different reasons. We also stayed briefly at Bellano which I liked A LOT, but we had a car on that visit which made for an experience that was less lake-centric. Friends of ours like to stay in Argegno with a car for the same reason.

werth Jul 31st, 2019 05:59 AM

We recently visited Lake Como and stayed in Varenna. We absolutely fell in love with the town and the lake.
Being on the train line was a plus too.
We arrived by private transfer and left by train.

mmmooommm Jul 31st, 2019 06:03 AM

can't go wrong with Bellagio or Varenna. We stayed in Bellagio for 5 nights, so may do Varenna next time. These are the most central, IMHO, towns for what you might want to do, and you will probably explore both, I would recommend that. Varenna has the advantage of the train connection, but I might recommend Bellagio for a first trip. Really would not stay in Como. Look at the map, it is at the foot of the lake. Not central, a hike to get to Bellagio and Varenna. Don't know who recommended it, but I would say they did it and feel compelled to recommend they made the best choice. yes, it is convenient for in and out of Milan, but you are staying long enough that that isn't a concern.

Mimar Jul 31st, 2019 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by werth (Post 16962579)
We recently visited Lake Como and stayed in Varenna. We absolutely fell in love with the town and the lake.
Being on the train line was a plus too.
We arrived by private transfer and left by train.

Werth, where did you buy your train ticket?

Paqngo Jul 31st, 2019 09:52 AM

You can use the Trentitalia website for tickets https://www.trenitalia.com/. You can also read about train travel at https://www.seat61.com/Italy-trains.htm

HappyTrvlr Jul 31st, 2019 11:45 AM

We enjoy staying in Bellagio, more dining options, good ferry service.

werth Aug 1st, 2019 12:17 AM

We bought our tickets at the train station in Varenna on the day we traveled.

bvlenci Aug 1st, 2019 01:39 AM

We stayed in Bellagio, but if we were to go again (unlikely) we would stay in Varenna.

Germanbound Aug 6th, 2019 07:51 PM

Hi, can you explain about your private transfer? Where did you get the transfer from, company name, etc? Thanks!

werth Aug 7th, 2019 05:40 AM

We used LakeComoTransfers
Nice car, pleasant driver, and on-time.
We were picked up at Linate airport and dropped off at our hotel in Varenna.

HappyTrvlr Aug 7th, 2019 06:24 AM

We have used Davide Guerrera out of Como several times, excellent, dependable. MXP to Bellagio.


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