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which mountain for snow experience for non skier - first visit to France

which mountain for snow experience for non skier - first visit to France

Apr 19th, 2015, 01:41 PM
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neckervd - the Engadine is nice - I have not explored it nearly enough mainly doing the Bernina Pass railway because of my rail interests and trains do not go into the Engadine's Alpine parts except for a few mainlines east of St Moritz.

Those villages sound neat - but folks do not go to Alpine areas to see cute villages - they go to see glacier-girdled peaks and take mountain trains to glaciers and snow - and the Jungfrau is unparalleled in this IME - but the original point was to make such a detour off a Zurich-France route would basically add two days of travel to see similar Alpine wonderlands - thus I recommended going to France straight away and that Chamonix has everything the OP wants - easy access to snow and glaciers - thrilling gondolas (but no real cute villages) - and Chamonix is a charmer itself - snugging in right at the foot of soaring peaks with glaciers in view from the town itself and seemingly tumbling right down to it.

Engadine is awesome but to add two days of travel means two less days at a primo Alpine wonderland like at Chamonix - I did not see that OP had done the Jungfrau area or would not have recommended that.
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Apr 19th, 2015, 09:33 PM
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Well, I, personally think the Engadin Valley is worth it. It is just spectacular with its stone villages, sgraffito, deep valleys, rivers, and lakes. It is really prime cycling country. It is so far largely undiscovered by English-speaking tourists, and it has a dearth of souvenir shops and clumps of people paused on sidewalks to take photos (I couldn't fine one souvenir shop in Zuoz the week I stayed there). It does have a lot of hiking enthusiasts as visitors, and you see lots of them -- families with small children, older couples, fit young guys -- striding off to the cable cars to start the day's hike.

It has such a different feel and look and atmosphere from the rest of Switzerland that it is really a wonderful stop for anyone. Yes, it is, imo, worth a 2-day detour -- PROVIDING the op has the time to do justice to the place. I think this op does have the time.

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Apr 20th, 2015, 03:08 AM
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Hello, Not taking into account our arrival and departure day we will have 7 days in the Engadin Valley. The 2 day detour will be part of the fun as I do enjoy trains (we don't have them in NZ) and I must admit I do want to see beautiful villages as well as the glaciers, etc. Can't be bothered with shopping. We are all set now with a week in Engadin and 6 days in the Chamonix area - then we will be off for a week in France. From there I might be brave and take Neckervd's advice and catch a flight to our next destination as it will be on the other side of Switzerland. Today I had my last round of chemo and I wanted to say a big thank you for being so generous with your advice to a stranger right across the world. It has been a huge blessing this last week. Thank you from Jinz
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Apr 20th, 2015, 03:24 AM
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Also thinking of adding 2 days in Zermatt and completely giving up Germany for a future trip or I could cut back on Austria.
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Apr 20th, 2015, 04:55 AM
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Chemo?? Oh my gosh, jinz, I didn't realize that. I'm so glad you got to spend your time planning this trip and making it a spiritual and mental vacation. God bless you for being strong enough to finish your chemo, and my best wishes for a complete remission.

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Apr 23rd, 2015, 08:10 PM
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Hello, I am home feeling well and cheerful. Thank you for your good wishes. I don't usually put my personal stuff on public sites but I wanted the lovely people on this site to know how much their time is appreciated. Our trip is all set for Engadine Valley, Zermatt, Chamonix and France (staying in Montreux for 4 days before going on to Sereilhac by car) BUT now need to decide if we should do Salzkammergut area or spend some time in Germany. We can't do both now that we have added time in Switzerland and Montreux. Wondering if the scenery in Austria will be similar to Switzerland so perhaps we should experience Germany. Do you have any thoughts? Thank you.
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Apr 23rd, 2015, 09:13 PM
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Hi again,

My thoughts are that, no, Austria isn't all that similar to Switzerland, and I would spend the time there. It's pretty close to the Engadin Valley, and I think the lakes area is just beautiful. Very bucolic.

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Apr 24th, 2015, 05:55 AM
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Both Austria and Switzerland are neat but in very different ways - Austria has few awesome Alpine wonderlands like Switzerland does in Zermatt, the Jungfrau, Mt Titlis, etc but is very very pleasant in yes the Lake District - Hallstatt areas.
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