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Which countries will be open for tourism this summer?

Old Jun 6th, 2020, 01:10 PM
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Trump apparently said recently that they will look at easing travel restrictions from Europe.

He's going to do whatever he can to boost the economy, including taking in tourists from other countries.
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Old Jun 6th, 2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Heimdall View Post
Progol, from what I read in the Global Health Advisory, people who ignore it and travel anyway must be prepared not to receive support from the US embassies (repatriation flights, etc) should they become necessary. In other words, you are on your own, and could be stuck somewhere at your own expense if flights are suspended again. It’s not often one needs support from the embassy when travelling overseas, but in an emergency it may be essential. I wonder also if travel insurance companies would use that as an excuse to deny claims.
Thanks, Heimdall, I appreciate this. I had assumed this would be the case, and I would also imagine travel insurance would probably not be active, but I have no proof.

scb11 - I haven’t seen any comments yet about the US easing travel restrictions, but I am not surprised if that’s true. .

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Old Jun 7th, 2020, 03:17 AM
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Here's another article to add to the confusion: https://www.france24.com/en/20200605...after-covid-19
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Old Jun 7th, 2020, 06:52 AM
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There is also the possibility that all of the maskless and undistanced demonstrations all across Europe these past few days could blow up in our faces in two weeks.
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Old Jun 7th, 2020, 08:59 AM
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Portugal resumed biweekly nonstops between Newark and Lisbon. AFAIK, there is no quarantine requirement for the mainland. Masks are generally required.
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Old Jun 7th, 2020, 09:37 AM
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There's a WaPo article noting that EU countries have opened up businesses since about early to mid May and are not seeing spikes, at least not yet. They said a hospital in Cremona was expecting more patients but have started taking down makeshift ICU beds.

Through at least the summer, the hope is that there will be no more than localized hot spots, as they've found that opening some schools and restaurants haven't led to increases in case. But large-scale events are still prohibited.

People may have permanently adopted hand washing and wearing of masks. Other behavioral changes, supposedly while parks and outdoor dining are full, indoor tables are not.

Italy ICU patients have dropped from 4000 at peak to 400 and has been dropping every day in May. In Germany, contact tracing teams are idle. In Belgium, hospitals are emptying.

Experts still are not ruling out a second wave in the winter.

Nobody is claiming victory though. If Europe does well in the summer, it could still be the case that people drop their guard, priming up a big second wave in the fall/winter.

France had small uptakes but is having around 1000 cases per day vs. tens of thousands of cases in March. There have been outbreaks, like one linked to a funeral in Molise, Italy, clusters in Spain linked to parties and outbreaks in Germany from indoor gatherings and meat packing plants. There have also been clusters from parties, someone opening a hookah bar against guidelines and various church services including those where people were singing choir without masks.

Germany is even confident of avoiding a second wave because it has built up contact tracing capacity.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 12:08 AM
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Very few people here in Switzerland wear masks. Our Federal Council has never required them as a general matter. They are simply recommended when one is in a crowded situation - on a train for example - but are only required when there is close person to person contact such as at the hairdresser. In fact in a Zürich paper this morning there was an article stating that the Federal Government now has a stock of millions and millions of masks and doesn't know what to do with it!! I think since mid March I have worn a mask four times...

On 15 June the Swiss borders will open (all of Schengen is to re-open its borders) but as far as I can see only to residents of those countries. Not to tourists from outside the Schengen area with the exception of those coming from the UK and Ireland.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 01:16 AM
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Only 13 deaths by coronovirus in France yesterday. That's the lowest number since mid-March.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 01:31 AM
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"In fact in a Zürich paper this morning there was an article stating that the Federal Government now has a stock of millions and millions of masks and doesn't know what to do with it!!"

I read that too. In fact, the total masks reserve in Switzerland corresponds to 30 masks per citizen.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 01:46 AM
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kerouac I hope the downhill trend continues and that the people, and the economy, recover as quickly as possible.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 02:37 AM
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"There have been outbreaks, like one linked to a funeral in Molise, Italy, clusters in Spain linked to parties and outbreaks in Germany from indoor gatherings and meat packing plants"

I'm rather worried about areas with coninuously high new infection rates like
Lombardy: 150 - 400 new infections: every day (last week)
Porto area: about 200 new infections: every day (last week)
Belgium: about 150 new infections: every day (last week)
Southern half of the Netherlands
Madrid and Cataluna
England

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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 03:29 AM
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In the southern part of the Netherlands, the area most affected in the country, there are mink farms where the animals have corona. They have tested cats on these farms, and several turned out to have it as well - or they had it recently.
The authorities say that there is little risk for humans, but how do they know?

I am also holding my breath for a spike in two weeks time, after the demonstrations in cities here.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 11:12 AM
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NZ

I imagine New Zealand will be opening up as they haven't had any new cases of Corona in a few weeks. That's what I'm waiting on.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 11:35 AM
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News Flash: Covid 19 has a .26% mortality rate. A quarter of a percent. Most of those in the .26 % are in very ill health to start with.

Live your life as you wish. Don't tell me how to live mine.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 11:38 AM
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Well, then don't use my health system, ever.

Please give a link to your discovery, though.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kerouac View Post
Well then you must not have read this forum or Trip Advisor to see what many Americans think of their importance to Paris, or the statistics of the Paris Visitors Bureau for news about Chinese visitors. You must certainly have noticed that at CDG and the train stations in Paris that all of the signs are now in Chinese.
Which is why they had all of the Covid 19.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by miss_diana View Post
I imagine New Zealand will be opening up as they haven't had any new cases of Corona in a few weeks. That's what I'm waiting on.
That is a reason for them NOT to open up. They sacrificed and now they're good while much of the rest of the world didn't and isn't.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 06:24 PM
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The scientific principles of a quarantine to prevent viral transmission are apparently still not understood... Someone needs to write the "Pandemic for Dummies" book.
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Old Jun 8th, 2020, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tulips View Post
In the southern part of the Netherlands, the area most affected in the country, there are mink farms where the animals have corona. They have tested cats on these farms, and several turned out to have it as well - or they had it recently.
The authorities say that there is little risk for humans, but how do they know?

I am also holding my breath for a spike in two weeks time, after the demonstrations in cities here.
I believe 1 or 2 workers were infected too. Also we've had spreading clusters in meat processing plants, and a few schools are postponing opening further in June due to spreading clusters in primary schools.

I don't think the BLM protests will have much influence on infectiions: indoor situations have far more potentiial to turn into spreading clusters.
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Old Jun 9th, 2020, 03:16 AM
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[QUOTE=Please give a link to your discovery, though.[/QUOTE]

Might be referring to this:
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...e-coronavirus/
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