Which airline(s) fly non-stop from L.A. to Zurich?
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AA runs the 777s to omly 3 places in Europe now. London Heathrow and Gatwick and Frankfurt. With 2 different configurations you are still never sure if you will get the suites or the "coffins". The "coffins" as the regular AA flyers call them are not bad, just not as nice as the suites.
All the secondary markets - Madrid, Rome, Paris, Manchester, Glasgow, Zurich are 767s and in few cases it's a 757. The 757 from Boston to Manchester is actually sold as one class, so if you buy a full fare ticket or if you have any status with AA you are allowed to pick the first class seats during reservation. Everybody else could request the seats (if available) during check-in. Don't get too excited. They are the normal domestic first class seats and the service is still economy, but it's still better than squeezed in the back.
All the secondary markets - Madrid, Rome, Paris, Manchester, Glasgow, Zurich are 767s and in few cases it's a 757. The 757 from Boston to Manchester is actually sold as one class, so if you buy a full fare ticket or if you have any status with AA you are allowed to pick the first class seats during reservation. Everybody else could request the seats (if available) during check-in. Don't get too excited. They are the normal domestic first class seats and the service is still economy, but it's still better than squeezed in the back.
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SWISS participates in the Amex Platinum 2 for 1 international air program: https://www124.americanexpress.com/c...airprogram.jsp
The 1st pax pays full fare and 2nd pax pays taxes only when traveling on the same itinerary. I don't know if $10,400 is full F on this route, but if it is, then the total cost for 2 tickets will be under $11,000 for both pax. Even if they do not have a Platinum card, it would be worth getting for the savings.
The 1st pax pays full fare and 2nd pax pays taxes only when traveling on the same itinerary. I don't know if $10,400 is full F on this route, but if it is, then the total cost for 2 tickets will be under $11,000 for both pax. Even if they do not have a Platinum card, it would be worth getting for the savings.
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Patty, thank you very much for the Platinum AmEx 2 for 1 information. Although they are sold out for the range of travel dates my friends desire, I was able to get them wait listed for flights within that timeframe. Now, I'll cross my fingers and hope someone else drops out. I thought I might also try some consolidators, although I'm sure thats a long shot.
One more question? What is "J" you refer to above? Does it refer to business class or first class?
Thanks again.
One more question? What is "J" you refer to above? Does it refer to business class or first class?
Thanks again.
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Yes, sorry - lapsed into lingo. Most airlines use initials for fare classes and/or fare "buckets" (hate that term). You will see F or A for first class, J, C, or D for business class, and Y or a host of other letters for economy, depending on the level of discount. Usually straight "Y" fares are incredibly expensive, as are F and J/C, because they're refundable. Other fare classes, e.g., A, D, I, Q, M... will vary in their meaning from one airline to another, typically noting whether fares are restricted, lower priority, eligible for different frequent flyer credit, award/non-rev seats, etc. etc. Quite bewildering and IMO a device used by the airlines to so segment the market that they can offer a zillion different fares for the same flight in order to fill every seat with the highest-paying passenger possible. It's called "revenue management" or "yield management" by the airline CEOs and their ilk.
Along these lines, watch out for the AMEX 2-for-1 deals. Sometimes they will only "book into" the higher fare class within a given premium cabin (say, "J" instead of "I," a common notation for discounted business-class fares.) If the discounted fare you could buy on your own is half the non-discounted fare you need to use to qualify for the twofer, you're not getting any great deal. If a J (or C, same diff) fare is $8K round trip while an I fare is $3K, and AMEX will only allow J, then you're losing $2K on two tickets by using the 2-for-1 deal.
Along these lines, watch out for the AMEX 2-for-1 deals. Sometimes they will only "book into" the higher fare class within a given premium cabin (say, "J" instead of "I," a common notation for discounted business-class fares.) If the discounted fare you could buy on your own is half the non-discounted fare you need to use to qualify for the twofer, you're not getting any great deal. If a J (or C, same diff) fare is $8K round trip while an I fare is $3K, and AMEX will only allow J, then you're losing $2K on two tickets by using the 2-for-1 deal.
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Yes, the Amex program requires the purchase of a full, undiscounted F or J ticket to qualify for the 'free' companion ticket. It's good for when discounted fares are sold out, you cannot meet the restrictions of the discounted fare, or on some routes where F/J is not that competitively priced.
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Patty,
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You told me about the Amex 2 for 1 deal, and I was able to obtain that deal for my friends! Now, they can have their cake and eat it too, at a savings of $10,000!!! They think I'm a miracle worker, and it's all because of you! You are truly the best.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You told me about the Amex 2 for 1 deal, and I was able to obtain that deal for my friends! Now, they can have their cake and eat it too, at a savings of $10,000!!! They think I'm a miracle worker, and it's all because of you! You are truly the best.
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I'm not sure why it's not showing up when other people search, but I can tell you that there IS indeed a non-stop flight to Zurich, with flat beds in First Class. I am currently scheduled on American Airlines flight 6211 out of LAX to Zurich, nonstop. The catch is that it is "operated by SWISS". So, it's a SWISS airlines flight with an American Airlines flight number - maybe that's why it's hard to find. Anyway, I've flown SWISS air many times, and since its bankruptcy and reorganization a few years ago, it has vastly improved. It's a good airline to fly, especially business and first class. The first class seats turn into beds.
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