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Jan 11th, 2008, 06:11 AM
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mkdiebold, absolutely. I'm going to send you an e-mail shortly.

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Jan 11th, 2008, 06:22 AM
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"And you can't beat the great food and wine."

Yes you can.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 06:39 AM
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>>>I'm not sure that you can make a broad statememt that all of Europe is more expensive.<<<

I agree 100%. Hubby and I spent 7 weeks in Italy and spent $4800 total. My girlfriend and her husband and daughter went to Disney world in Orlando, Florida for 7 DAYS and spent $3900. 7 weeks is quite different from 7 days and this is even with the high Euro!

I think it depends on your travel priorities. The things I like to see and do abroad are usually free, ie architecture walks, hanging out in local spots, etc. Also, getting an apartment and cooking most of your meals in saves a bundle, that's what we did and we still ate out 2-3 times a week.

So I guess I'm trying to say, it can still be done, if you're willing to cut some corners.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 07:16 AM
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>rent a car and even with higher gas prices
Bifuel cars would be the answer to that. I've now idea why those aren't offered by more rental agencies. They run on "LPG" (buthane/methane). Converting you own car costs about 1000€ (or more), depending where you have it done. LPG will be sold without the additional German mineral-oil tax on it until the year 2018. Prices in most of western Europe vary only little.

A gallon costs about the equivalent of $3.80 in Munich right now. MPG are a little! less than with traditional gas. Most newer cars (not Diesel engines) can be converted.

If you're panning to do a lot of driving...
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Jan 11th, 2008, 07:25 AM
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I am echoing tcreath & bettyk, look into Germany!

Berlin is the new destination in Germany. It is considerably cheaper than any other western european capitals and yet it is large & vibrant with diversed grand sceneries like Paris or London. You can get a much better quality hotel/vacation apartment & food for less. It offers classic city palaces, amazing museums and emotionally moving monuments.

You can combine Berlin with a daytrip using the metro to Postdam (Berlin's Versailles suburb), and add a few days in the baroque city of Dresden or in the unspoilt colorful hilltowns in the Harz mountain area(Quedlinburg, Wernigerode, Goslar).

Of course, there is also the typical german destination, charm dripping Bavaria, which can also be combined with the austrian baroque jewel, Salzburg.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 07:53 AM
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travelgourmet, I love the food and wine in Germany! Probably not everyones cup of tea, but as a fairly picky non-gourmet food eater I really enjoyed the cuisine. And my mouth waters just thinking about the heavenly buttery chocolate croissants I found everywhere in Bavaria...


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Jan 11th, 2008, 08:17 AM
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tcreath: Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Germany, and think it fits the bill for what the OP is looking for. But I think there are places in Europe that have more highly regarded culinary offerings - France, Italy, and Spain being the obvious choices. I would also place Belgium ahead of Germany on the food scale, though one would have to switch from wine to beer.

To be honest, I would probably place London at the top of my list of a no-holds barred, cost-is-no-object culinary trip to Europe.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 08:27 AM
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Happy New Year! Got a Garmin Nuvi 770 from Santa but now I see all these international cell phones w/internet access, GPS, etc. Will be in Europe for at least three months this spring...can anyone recommend a device that will give a marginal techi the use of the internet, phone and GPS in one!!?? Thanks
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Jan 11th, 2008, 08:29 AM
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Ooppps! wrong site! Sorry
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Jan 11th, 2008, 09:25 AM
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travelgourmet, no problem. To each their own, as I always say. I'm a rather picky eater (sad but true) so I actually prefer the food in Germany to most of the countries I have visited because many things are prepared more simple for my less-refined, and very picky, palate. Although I do admit that Italy takes the cake for me when it comes to great cuisine, I love a great schnitzel and spaetzel meal with a large beer.

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Jan 11th, 2008, 09:37 AM
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I don't want to horrify anyone who is a food purist, but I've been to very good, well-priced Italian restaurants in Germany. I don't mean they would win culinary awards, but they were very pleasant experiences. Just as in lots of places, many Italian immigrants moved to Germany and opened restaurants.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 09:42 AM
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I'm no gourmet. I like good, honest food and I find that in Germany. I've had some of the best soups ever in Germany and I love the breads. Whatever floats your boat.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 12:14 PM
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I touched off a bit of a firestorm, and I'm sorry, but Germany is not the culinary capital that other countries are.

I have no problem with claims that Germany has good food and wine. It most certainly does. But this is not the same as claiming the food and wine cannot be beat. I just don't want anyone to be disappointed. And, frankly, if you are a foodie, I think you will be disappointed with Germany, unless you want to spend money for the world-class places or really like kebabs. And, if you aren't a foodie, then why mention it, as it wouldn't be a selling point to you anyway?
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Jan 11th, 2008, 02:21 PM
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I can agree that some of the old german cooking like overcooked boiled meats or chopped salad may not be too exciting. However german cuisine has also evolved to include modern/lighter and refined cooking which you can get in the better restaurants. The difference is the cost will be half of what you'll pay in London or Paris.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 02:51 PM
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Old german cooking was potatoes and lots of cabbage. Why? Because people were poor, couldn't afford meat, had no fridge and wanted to survive. (Seems an odd concept today?)

While that may have made interesting food, as soon as you get wealthier you want to want to try someting else.
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Jan 11th, 2008, 03:33 PM
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A shame you are not interested in Asia...Thailand is pretty terrific. And cheap as well.

But as far as Europe goes, I went to Spain and felt it was fairly cheap...
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Jan 12th, 2008, 06:36 AM
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I am heading to Turkey in April and very excited since it will be our first trip there.

No one mentioned Israel as a destination. The exchange is great and it easy very easy to drive and get around. Food in Israel is wonderful. Tel Aviv is a fantastic beach city with great restaurants and night life, Haifa is also a gorgeous city, lovely beach area, great restaurants and interesting culture, the meditteranean coast has a lot of history and beautiful sites and beaches, the north is beautiful, and Tiberias area is just beautiful (check out the Scots Hotel). And...Jerusalem is a wonderful city - museums, history, old city...Not far from Jerusalem is the Dead Sea with a few spa's and resorts - very cool to float in the dead sea and to climb Masada. Then there is Eilat - similar to big beach resort like Cancun but if you love beaches this is another spot to check out. You don't have to be religious or political to enjoy this country.
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Jan 12th, 2008, 07:50 AM
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I would vote for Israel too but it's certainly not cheap. I spent a lot of time in Tel Aviv and I enjoyed myself there.

There's all sorts of various foods in Tel Aviv. Kosher food is available but there's all types of meals.

Best buy for food: Find a good place which serves "Schwarma" (sp??). I worked near the airport and I found a great place for schwarmas. Yummmmmm!

Although that area is old, Israel is a relatively new country. The folk songs are sung by most people and this is a type of history you won't find often.

English found almost the whole country and even the products from the US can be found.

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Jan 12th, 2008, 09:40 AM
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I've noticed in a couple of travel articles that Portugal is considered one of the "cheaper" places in Europe for US$ travelers. And the pictures are gorgeous.
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Jan 12th, 2008, 12:53 PM
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Tracy: I'm sorry but I have not gotten your email. I think my computer anti-spam program must have booted you out. Would you try again, please. [email protected]
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