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You can get coffee in paper cups in just about every corner kiosk, coffee shop and Petrol station in Norway if you ask for it. I am sure this goes for the rest of Northern Europe as well.
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Well, another precinct heard from -- especially to richardab who talked about refills. I was recently in Paris, staying at the Familia Hotel on Rue des Ecoles in the 5eme. I love croissants AND French coffee for breakfast, but one day I just could not resist having an American breakfast at the cafe down the street called 'CC S Breakfast in America' -- an old-fashioned diner with red plastic upholstery, Coke bottle posters on the walls, and especially, great big cups of coffee with all the refills you want. I needed that, just once during my stay!
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how about a dunkin donuts?
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Krispy Kreme? Krystal? Waffle House? Jack-in-the-Box (Jacques-dans-le-Boite?)
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Krispy Kremes are all the rage in London--sorry you anti-capitalists, but if the locals don't want it it will fail, be it in Japan, Europe or anywhere else. The locals must want these goods and came blame the Americans all they want but the Americans are not the one supporting these places in their countries (for the most part). No company is going to keep their business in a place where it is losing money just to "spread American capitalism" and destroy their culture.
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Access to Krispy Kremes should be a basic human right.
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Just wanted to share this official note I recently received from Starbucks Corporate:
"Dear Ms. xxx, Thank you for your email. We do not have any coffeehouses in France at this time. We will be opening them soon. Please feel free to contact me at any time regarding our progress. Regards, International Business Development STARBUCKS COFFEE INTERNATIONAL" I know certain people already knew this but this is the official word, at least for now. |
I think there may be a need for casual, takeout coffee and suspect it will be successful. A couple years ago, I was flying from US to Europe and sat next to a Swedish girl who was going home from a vacation in the US (she was in her 20s). She proudly showed me the Starbucks coffee and mugs she was taking back as gifts to her friends. I was speechless, but she said to me how cool she thought it was and said "we don't have anything like this in Sweden!" So, obviously it appeals to some folks. I think part of that is just the idea that it is cool to bring logo products back from a foreign country, but she was actually taking ground Starbucks coffee back to Sweden as a gift.
I have Starbucks coffee free at work so get pretty sick of drinking it all day and it does have an aftertaste I don't care for, but it is a lot better than insipid weak instant-type coffee (or heavens, Nescafe, which you still find way too often in Europe). It's a lot better than takeout coffee from McDonalds or some place like that, also. |
What a tempest in a coffee pot!
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All one had to do was type in Starbuck's on www.pagesjaunes.fr to discover there are none in Paris! Voila!!
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Lol...now McDonalds is getting into the act with "McCafe"...an upscale [??] coffee bar in some of their stores.
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OK, fine. They will bve opening one in France soon! Exciting but...
Dear Starbucks, I love the fact that you have a shop on every street corner in New York City but why can't you open a shop on Rt 3 or Rt 46 westbound in New Jersey? I would like to have a good strong cuppa coffee while sitting in traffic on the way to work. Dunkin Dounuts coffee sucks. Thank you. |
There are Starbucks on Rt4 in Englewood NJ, Rt 17 N in Paramus and most likely in every town. If they are on every other corner in NYC, NJ is surely not far behind!
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Starbucks will open in Paris in early 2004--near the Opera somewhere.
As someone else pointed out, in Europe you see many people run in, get a cup of whatever they want, literally gulp it down, and run off to the bus or subway station. I don't see anything sinister about giving people more choice in their lives. I guess the American attitude towards giving people multiple options in their lives at all levels is more open than in Europe. Though this will probably change in Europe as American cultural influences grow stronger with the younger generations coming up. |
i heart starbucks
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While in Zurich 2 months ago with Swiss friends everyone was delighted to go to the Starbucks for breakfast. They thought it was great fun ordering all these sweet fun coffees (mochas) and asked for my help in understanding what was what! Too funny!
I have to admit that getting a nice vanilla latte and walking to the museum with it was NICE! But I still love the 'stand at the counter and shoot your espresso' too. Isn't it great to have CHOICES!!!! |
I saw the Starbucks in Paris, or at least where it will be. It's kind of across the street from a monoprix about a block or two from the Opera. It looks like it will be a small one story shop, but it could be a two story mega-mocha place...
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Interesting little article in this past Sunday's Parade magazine. It cited some European study which apparently claimed that drinking a lot of coffee is bad for the heart. It went on to note that coffee-related heart problems are not as bad in the U.S. and that the theory is that most U.S. coffee is filtered, whereas most European coffee is not. It said that the filtering process removes oils from the coffee.
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I heard that they were going to be opening up a Starbucks in a Starbucks bathroom soon.
I'm here all week ladies and gentlemen. |
My wife is Canadian and I remember vividly that when we got married 20 years ago and she first came the US, she was constantly amazed at all the freedom and choice that people had in their everyday lives. In Canada, things were done a certain why and that was that. Government and business made decisions for you about how it would be. In America, they actually constantly tried to find ways to give people what they want. There were no rules. What works is what works.
From some of the posts, I guess it upsets some that businesses should try to please customers and give them what they want instead of what a handful of people decide is good for everyone else. There is a word for those people: SNOBS. |
It's soon to open on the Ave. Opera (someone I know passes the spot near where he lives)
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Just keep checking the Starbucks website for the press releases.
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Do Starbucks have decent restrooms? If they do, then that will be the only reason for my visiting them in Paris...same as McDonalds. Starbucks is psuedo-coffee, McDonalds is psuedo-food.
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STARBUCKS ARRIVE A PARIS ! Webzine > Starbucks Coffee
> Starbucks Coffee Tour> Alex et Nico visitent les Starbucks de New York > Starbucks Guest Book Starbucks Coffee à travers le monde : vous racontez > Starbucks France Un Starbucks arrive à Paris, un autre à la Défense UN STARBUCKS COFFEE OUVRE PRES DE L'OPERA, UN AUTRE A LA DEFENSE Ce n'est plus une rumeur, vous en parlez depuis quelques mois sur Telinet, la presse commence à évoquer la question : les premiers Starbucks Coffee de France devraient ouvrir leurs portes début 2004. Ils seront implantés l'un à Paris, 26 avenue de l'opéra, près de l'Opéra Garnier, l'autre à la Défense, au pied de l'immeuble Coeur Défense... Vous en savez plus? N'hésitez pas à nous faire part de vos informations. Starbucks Opéra 26 avenue de l'Opéra, Paris Date d'ouverture : mi-janvier 2004 Vous connaissez la date exacte d'ouverture? Accès : - Métro ligne 3, 7, 8 station Opéra. - RER A, station Auber. Starbucks La Défense Au pied de l'immeuble Coeur Défense Date d'ouverture : non communiquée Vous connaissez la date d'ouverture ? Accès : - Métro ligne 1, station Esplanade la Déf. - RER A, station La Défense Grande Arche - Tram T2, station La Défense Vos témoignages, vos réactions Vous connaissez déjà les cafés Starbucks, et vous venez d'apprendre leur arrivée en France? Vous avez travaillé chez Starbucks, ou vous y travaillez actuellement? Faîtes part de vos réactions, donnez votre avis sur les Starbucks, faîtes découvrir Starbucks aux internautes francophones... "Comment inclure Opéra dans mon trajet quotidien?" nouveau! Quand je suis venue vivre en France il y a trois ans et demi, la première chose qui me manquait... c'était Starbucks. Certes, je trouve que ma "culture" (la culture du centre des Etats-Unis) est déjà trop présente en France et même le reste du monde, mais s'il y a une exception à faire en faveur du mondialisme, c'est l'implantation de Starbucks à Paris. Bon ! maintenant le seule problème à resoudre est comment inclure Opéra dans mon trajet quotidien. Natale (France) "J'adore les frappucino!" nouveau! Surtout les glacés! (Mocca=Yummy!!!). Je connais Starbucks depuis bien longtemps en Asie ainsi qu'aux Etats Unis et en Grande Bretagne mais pas un seul en France... bouhhhh.. il y a 2 mois, lorsque j'ai su qu'il allait y en avoir un à Paris, j'ai sauté de joie! Mily (France) "Pourquoi pas une carte en japonais?" Je suis très contente d'aller chez Starbucks Café dans quelques jours! Je suis japonaise, et je sais qu'à l'Opéra, il y a beaucoup de touristes japonais... et sachez qu'ils aiment beaucoup le café de chez vous! Donc pourquoi ne pas préparer la carte en Japonais? Hitoho (France) "Dès l'ouverture, j'emmenerai tous mes amis !" Gosh ! Starbucks en France, c'est trop cool ! C'est trop bon, surtout les frappucino caramel! Yummy! Dès l'ouverture j'emmenerai tous mes amis pour leur faire découvrir cette merveille... tout le monde aimera... succès certain! J'étais bouche bée devant Starbucks quand j'ai vu le store à l'Opéra Garnier. Franchement thank you soooo much Starbucks d'être venu en France! Saori (France) Le témoignage de Kamel, assistant store manager chez Starbucks Je connais STARBUCKS par coeur, j'y suis assistant store manager... j'ai aussi une grande expérience en gastronomie française (j'ai également été maître d'hôtel)... ce que je veux dire c'est que la tradition française du café et l'expérience de STARBUCKS, premier fournisseur du meilleur café dans le monde, cet énorme couple promet de vous offrir une très bonne tasse d'espresso ou un caramel macchiato ou pourquoi pas un caramel frapuccino pour rafraîchir... sans oublier le vanilla latte ma boisson préférée. Je conseille à tout le monde d'y aller, vous allez vraiment l'aimer... et bonne chance à STARBUCKS et à monsieur Franck Esquerre à Paris et pourquoi pas bientôt dans toute la France! Kamel Bientôt deux Starbucks à Paris : près de l'Opéra et à la Défense J'ai travaille chez Starbucks Espagne pendant trois mois cet été et l'implantation en France est bien confirmée. Dans un premier temps deux unités seront ouvertes une à Opéra et l'autre à la Défense. En Espagne l'expansion des Starbucks a été très rapides (14 Starbucks en 1 an ), la prévision de développement est encore plus importante pour Paris donc tous à vos Frappucino (essayez un Frappucino avec un brownie à l 'interieur c'est une des meilleures recettes en attendant le Moka au chocolat blanc) Stéphane (France) "Bientôt un Starbucks Coffee à Paris" J'ai testé les Starbucks à Londres et Barcelone; mon amie, qui elle vivait aux Etats-Unis, est une fan et l'on vient d'apprendre qu'ils ouvraient bientôt en France. Et oui c'est apparemment sur le quartier d'Opera. Pas de doute ça va marcher, en tout cas se sera l'une de mes prochaines sorties à "la mode". Anthony (France) "Si vous avez plus d'infos, faites circuler ! " Je suis française mais ça fait 2 mois que je suis au Canada (juste pour un an) et moi aussi j'ai découvert les cafés starbucks...et c'est trop trop bon! Je reviens sur Paris pour Noel et il me faut mon Starbucks! Si vous avez plus d'infos sur l'ouverture d'un Starbucks à Paris, faites circuler. Cindy (Canada) "Un Starbucks à Paris, quel bonheur" L'implantation de Starbucks, quel bonheur, longue vie au moccha frappuccino à Paris et je l'espère, bientôt à Marseille. Camille (France) "Vive les frappucino !" Wahooouuu !!! Enfin un Starbucks à Paris! On ne sera plus obligé d'attendre son prochain voyage aux US pour faire sa cure!!! Magnifique!!! Vive les frappucino !!! Elodie (France) La presse en parle Ce n'est plus un secret, les grands magazines en parle... La chaîne de cafés Starbucks s'installe en France. [..] le directeur de la société, Frank Esqueré, compte attirer une clientèle nombreuse en misant sur la réputation internationale de Starbucks, et d'un concept de "luxe raisonnable". Il y peu de concurrents en face de lui, et ils sont de petite taille. Ses principaux rivaux s'appellent Colombus Café et Café Muffin. Tout comme Starbucks, ils affirment ne pas vouloir conquérir les consommateurs des traditionnels bistrots parisiens, mais simplement attirer les amateurs d'expressos vers leurs établissements.[..] Le Monde - 25 décembre 2003 Starbucks débarque en France. La chaîne américaine de cafés va ouvrir une première boutique à Paris, début 2004, dans le quartier de l?Opéra. Développé par Howard Schultz, Starbucks compte aujourd?hui quelque 7 000 points de vente dans le monde et 25 millions de clients par semaine. Challenges.fr - octobre 2003 By early 2004, Starbucks will start to open stores in France, placing initial roots in the upscale Opera section of Paris. Some view the move as bold, others as misguided, still others as brilliant. We call it logical. Fool.com - septembre 2003 Vous aussi, donnez votre avis ! Vous avez testé le café des Starbucks Coffee cette année ? Temoignez sur Telinet ! Prénom : Pays : France Pays Bas Belgique Suisse Allemagne Canada Etats Unis Autre Email : Suite du Starbucks Coffee Tour Le Starbucks Coffee Tour Alex et Nico ont décidé d'écrire le guide Michelin des Starbucks Coffee de New York. Ils ont testé. Alex et Nico racontent... Starbucks Guestbook Londres, Barcelone, New York, Kumamoto, vous avez testé le café Starbucks, votre avis est sur Telinet. Tous vos témoignages |
Re: <i>I heard that they were going to be opening up a Starbucks in a Starbucks bathroom soon.</i>
Starbucks Petite, oui? *LOL*!! Thanks for the laugh, Kath. Actually, there's at least one location in the Seattle area where there are Starbucks stores across the street from one another. That way they can get the commuters coming and going. |
There are also at least a couple streets in Vancouver with Starbucks situated across from each other.
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Just read in the paper that the first Starbucks in Paris is opening today, on the Avenue de l'Opera. The article said that Parisiens were sceptical; not only would they not like weak coffee out of cardboard cups, the place is also strictly non-smoking.
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Thank god! Paris has entered the 21st century!
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The first Starbucks in Paris opens tomorrow, near Opera.
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Here's an interesting documentary on the decline of the traditional café and the rise of take-out coffee shops in Paris
http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2004/200401/20040102.html |
Whilst it is true that the French may not take to drinking coffee on the move, one should not say thy they drink good coffee.
The French do better than us Brits, but at most business meetings you go to in France you get served instant coffee in cheap plastic cups. Instant coffee is very popular in France. The Italins and Dutch are much more serious coffee drinkers. |
UKUKUK, at the 5 different French companies I've worked for, everyone drank "real" coffee, either from an espresso machine or a vending machine (hence the cheap plastic cups). I had no idea that they were saving the Nescafé for visiting foreign business associates ;)
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my clients are mainly private equity firms - venture capitalists are known for being tight fisted so maybe you are right! |
This is an interesting discussion. I lived in the US for a while in the 80s, and the coffee was disgusting everywhere. Big cups full of weak tasteless coffee. The Starbucks and others were a huge improvement on that. And now they are exporting that to countries where the coffee was always good anyway. 20 years ago the thought of Americans serving coffee to Parisians would have been strange to say the least.
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I love Starbucks here and I love it anywhere else in the world I travel to.
In Spain I found it was the best coffee I could obtain and went in to several in Madrid, and one in Barcelona. I was able to sit and rest with my coffee if I wanted to. To those that don't want to see any changes in the way things are done overseas or here in the US,just remember you wouldn't have the travel opportunities you have now if we didn't have changes! |
I was there over the New Year holiday, and they do have a Starbucks in Paris!
It was not open, but opened a few days after I had departed. I don't know the name of the street it is located on, but as you are walking towards the Plaza Vendome area, it is on the corner on your left. They have a good sized sign visible from the street. However, I have tasted nothing Starbucks can whip up that will hold a candle to the coffee in the restaurants in Paris!!! |
We passed it while in the taxi. It's on Ave. de l'Opera I believe.
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There is a Starbucks here:
26 av Opéra (in the 1st) According to this posting, there is a Starbucks in Montparnasse near the tower: http://tinyurl.com/292mf |
There are three (soon to be 4) Starbucks Locations. here they are in order opened
1)Starbucks Opera 26 Ave. l'Opera Exit the metro station Pyramid and walk twards the Opera House and Starbucks is on your right. 2) Starbucks La Defense At the Building Coeur Defense (90 Esplanade du General de Gaulle) the easiest way to get there is to exit the metro at "La Defense" and walk away from the Grand Arch (a huge square building with a hole in the middle) and look up to your left and there is a building with "coeur Defense" written on it, Starbucks is at the bottom of this building. This one reminds me of Starbucks in Seattle. They also have a wonderful terrase. 3) Starbucks Montparnasse 70 boulevard du Montparnasse the boulevard du montparnasse is on the oppisite side of the big black tour from the train station, so when exiting the metro find the right side, and when standing on the blvd Montparnasse looking at the tour, starbucks is one store front to the left. Starbucks for me is not just about the coffee. I prefere to go to Starbucks then anyother french cafe. Yes if you go to paris and are here for one day, go and get a cup of french coffee at a french cafe. But being a student here all year, I prefer to go to Starbucks, where I can get a consistant good cup of coffee, or more so a frappacino. Also the service at Starbucks is unbeatable in france. |
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