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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 06:48 AM
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Dulcie wrote <<You're a tourist, not a traveller. That's fine, tourists are needed. But don't try to tell a traveller what's best, that's like an amateur trying to tell a pro. >>

I KNEW that sooner or later the traveller / tourist thing would raise its Hydra-like head.

Dulcie has advised on these pages:
He quit work at age 45
He ran a bar on Rhodes for several years.
He drove a red MG-B rag top on Rhodes
He rode a Vespa on Rhodes
He is a published travel writer
He wore short pants while in Venice, attaching the legs in order to gain entry to Harry's Bar
He owns five back-packs
He has hiked River to Rim in the grand canyon
He has three or four passports
He has a condo in some tax haven
He has a yacht in said tax haven
His bag never weighs more than seven milligrams or something
He threatened to sue a poster on Fodors who doubted if he ever travelled. Said poster still maintains those doubts
He is aged 67, lives in Ottawa
He is as good a joke as has appeared here in the last couple of years - and that includes being up against Dobby the Turtle!
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 07:59 AM
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Hilarious. I'm accused of personal attacks. It seems to be quite clear to me who is being personally attacked here.

I asked you to link a picture of you travelling slyvia to see what you wear. I see no big deal in that. Plenty of people have just that kind of picture on their profile.

Yet again however you find it necessary to resort to incorrect statements that you make up. Where did I say that I 'worship waiters and watches'?

Janisj, why are you not complaining that sylvia3 has called me an 'ass'. Is that not contrary to the rules of Fodors? You will not find any comments by me calling someone an 'ass'.

I did indeedd write to aliced, " You're a tourist, not a traveller. That's fine, tourists are needed. But don't try to tell a traveller what's best, that's like an amateur trying to tell a pro."

The first part of that is a simple fact. Some people are tourists, some are travellers. They're not one and the same other than as an argument in semantics. I also wrote that it was 'fine'. There is no insult in that. I then wrote, it was like an amateur and a pro. I see no insult there either. It's a simple analogy.

I am quite willing to debate any topic anyone wishes to debate. It is not ME that calls people an ass janisj.

"and I do wonder why the moderators let him stick around and continually attack people"

The flaw in that statement is the 'attack people'. I don't attack people, I disagree with their ideas or point out if they have got a fact wrong.

The problem is that most people cannot separate themselves from their opinion, idea, etc. If you say their idea of taking a pashmina is a bad idea, they don't hear 'bad idea'. They hear, 'YOU are wrong, you are stupid,' etc. THEY turn it into a personal attack in THEIR own mind. There is no personal attack in saying, 'take something lighter weight and less bulky than a pashmina.'

Bogarts will no doubt go with a 40lb. suitcase of stuff. That's too bad. You can lead a horse to water................
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 08:24 AM
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"..the maitre'd (who know what they're looking at) looks at the make of watch on her wrist..."
"...Somelier determines if I know what I'm doing when I discuss the wine list with him..."
"Some women can look good in almost anything and some women can't look good in almost anything...Look good in anything though is something you can't buy."
"Link a picture of yourself on your travels sylvia3. Let's see just how great you look."

Right. Like that "challenge" (to be judged, insulted and denigrated) would be "answered" by anyone. Ever. (Really? On the internet? I challenge you to post a photo of your wife here, in any Lauren or Walmart shirt. Let's be allowed to judge. Because that's what's important to you, how the world judges your looks and financial status.)
Arrogant, rude, insulting, and yes, the word I used before...
BTW, I wear a (faded pink) Ironman Timex watch. Does the job.
I take a pashmina everywhere; it is a blanket, a shawl, a stole, a scarf, a headpiece, lightweight but warm, and have several in lovely colors. Wouldn't travel without one. (They are not real pashmina; I bought a bunch at a "10 yuan" store in Qibau. They've lasted and lasted, and I still get compliments on them.)
I love to travel, when I can afford to. When I travel, I do not not seek out xstar Michelin restaurants (waste of time and money to me). I do like to east local food and drink local wine, and see what makes places different from where I live and have been. Guess that makes me a tourist. I am ashamed, but I guess the world needs people like me. And overpriced pretentious places need people like you. It takes all kinds.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 08:34 AM
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"eat" local food, that is.

A question for the women. If I make it to Italy this fall, will my favored (long) skirts look out of place? Or should I try to find black pants that will wear well? Any recommendations for easy-care budget-friendly slacks? (Chicos Travelers line seems too sweat-inducing polyester.)
I gather that my gray and lavender New Balance walking sneaker/shoes will not be apropos; I would also welcome a specific (budget) shoe suggestion.
Thanks in advance.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 09:18 AM
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Sylvia, check my profile picture.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 09:19 AM
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Wear clothes that you think make you look good. Italian women - and men - wear a lot of colour. Men in mustard or off-pink slcks are often seen.

Long skirts are most fashionable. Dedicated travel clothes are great for camping, and do rather mark one as a visitor (or traveller or tourist).

On no account, take more than seven pounds of luggage.

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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 09:24 AM
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Cathies, you are hardly pure as the driven.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 09:36 AM
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Dulce, give us a close up photo. Like my profile shot.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 09:43 AM
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And mine.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 11:16 AM
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Hey Dulcie, nice selfie. Who is the girl?
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Dickie I don't recall asking for your opinion.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 12:58 PM
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No, but it's a bit pathetic to blubber about others whilst throwing your own weight about.

Be proper grown up.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 01:12 PM
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Well I wasn't blubbering just making an observation, but I'm curious to know what I've done that has given you cause to zero in on me?
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 01:22 PM
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I had you down as a proper grown up.

Blubbering is never pretty.
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 01:35 PM
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What?
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 01:43 PM
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Sylvia, in response to your post about clothes to take for your trip to Italy, I like the idea of long skirts. If you're comfortable in them, wear them. For an alternative to the Chico pants, I've the found the Travlex pants from Eddie Bauer to be great for traveling and I wear them at home also. Royal Robbins, Lucy's and even Champion make nice lightweight pants which don't wrinkle but still look great.

I haven't kept up with all the posts but had a chuckle over the idea of a waiter actually noticing what kind of watch one is wearing. I've been traveling with my gold Rolex for years, and I've never been aware of anyone noticing it but, then, it's not the sort of thing I keep track of. In recent years the Rolex has become costume jewelry as I can hardly read the time so I now wear an Ironman Timex ( just traded in my faded lavender one for a blue one) on the other wrist. I have checked in at hotel wearing a Burberry raincoat and Burberry scarf and checked in at the same hotel wearing an LL Bean fleece and jeans. I was treated exactly the same on both occasions. It does not matter at all what one wears as long as you don't stink and clothes are reasonably clean. No one cares!
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OMG the poor Bogarts, asking a simple question. Yes, janisj, there are some bloggers who still looking to convince other bloggers that they are right and all else are wrong; can you imagine being on a tour bus (which perhaps only tourists do not travellers, love it) with some of the above? This is why we travel solo (or should I say tour solo)....LOL. Nikki, annhig, afreebird, Sylvia3, we pack whatever we like as long as we can manage it without assistance, my DH does not care.
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Thanks, all; I was beginning to get paranoid about having to worry how I was dressed instead of looking forward to the adventure. The New Balance walkers, skirts, and pashminas are a go!
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janis - you're absolutely correct about the attacks not being fun. I seldom read posts by zeppole or dul_sex so missed some of the attacks on you. I did say that the funny comments were not given by these two.

Please don't go away as you are a valuable contributor!
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Old Apr 20th, 2014, 02:59 PM
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A TOUR BUS!!! ROTFLMAO. If ever there was something that defines someone as a tourist that would be a serious candidate aliced.

I'm now removing the photo from my profile sylvia, I hope you have a chance to see it. "I challenge you to post a photo of your wife here" Obviously, I have done so. Now put up or shut up.

Historytraveler, you would be surprised it seems at what gets noticed by people who make it their business to notice. If you realize that 'no one cares' what clothes you are wearing and that it 'does not matter', then you are in fact contradicting what most of those posting here like to believe.

If I suggest I am quite comfortable dining in a Michelin starred restaurant in jeans and an LL Bean fleece, you can be sure they would be jumping up and down to get a turn at telling me how 'inappropriate' my dress would be. If I say the somelier will not care what shoes I'm wearing but will pay more attention to what I have to say about wine, they will jump on that (exactly as has been done) as meaing that I am pretentious or a snob, or 'worship waiters and watches.'

I think you should 'keep up with all the posts', that's where the real 'chuckles' come from. Watching some posters make ridiculous comments based on comments they WISHED I had written but never did.

The ONLY real reason anyone needs to be carrying more than 25lbs. (and I'm being generous using that number) of luggage is because they don't THINK they can dress appropriately or manage to travel for a week with less than that. That's the elephant in the room historytraveler that makes them all go crazy when I suggest they can travel with far less.

They perceive themeselves as being called foolish for doing so. In fact, I'm simply saying what they are DOING is foolish. Lots of intelligent people do foolish things until they learn better. It's those who refuse to learn who you have to eventually conclude are foolish.
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