Fodor's Travel Talk Forums - What is a "Troll"?

This one from the US board is perhaps the greatest of all time, at least on a par with "how much should I tip the pilot"

Author: ryan
Date: 07/25/2001, 07:37 pm

I saw a cattle ranch profiled on the Travel Channel (I think it was in Montana) that had a cattle drive followed by traditional cattle slaughtering. I think it was run by a family named Donner but I can't find it listed on the net

Has anyone stayed here?

Thanks
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Author: whats
Date: 07/26/2001, 07:48 am

Are you sure you want to attend a slaughtering held by the Donner Party?
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Author: Ugh!
Date: 07/26/2001, 08:24 am

Is it just me or does anyone else find the prospect of a 'Cattle Slaughtering Vacation' appaling ?!
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Author: ryan
Date: 07/26/2001, 09:08 am

I actually find it quite appealing! I can participate in a real old fashion ranch operation from the cattle drive to the butchering process. That's a piece of American history.

People eat fresh fish, why not fresh beef?
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Author: xxx
Date: 07/26/2001, 09:26 am

Ryan is a BIG TROLL, obviously!
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Author: Jim
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:09 pm

I've actually seen a couple of cattle field-slaughtered (in Montana), and there is nothing appealing about it. Dressing up like a cowboy and riding horses is appealing, but the dirty work of butchering definitely is not.
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Author: x
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:13 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the purpose of the cattle drives to take the cattle to market to sell? From there they got shipped on the rails to the larger cities where the slaughter houses were? When cattle was slaughtered on the ranches, before the days of electricity and refrigeration, it was typically one and eaten fairly quickly. Right?
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Author: kimberly
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:15 pm

Ryan,
You are disgusting! Killing animals is an outrage and any person that does so deserves the same treatment!

Animals have rights and should not be used for food, sport or testing of products!

I hope to find out the name of this ranch so that I can put its name on the PETA website!

ANIMALS HAVE RIGHTS!
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Author: OO
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:21 pm

.....Woe is me....here we go again. Fasten your seat belts folks.
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Author: bert
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:22 pm

kimmie,
don't you and your little friends have anything better to do. I'm bettin your one of them little rich girls that needs a cause becuase mommie and daddie were hippies and made it sound romantic. how about save the people!

animals are here to be eaten, hunted and used for clothes. they don't have rights, there animals!

like the man says "if we weren't meant to eat animals then they shouldn't be made out of meat"
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Author: Ernie
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:24 pm

Bert, puhleease!! Aren't you the big macho, redneck!
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Author: kimberly
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:32 pm

bert,
I'm not going to call you a pig because that dehumanizes the pig!

you deserve the same treatment that you describe. Right wing Republican fanatics like you are the reason for all the social problems in this country.

I'm sure you'll die of a heart attack from all the animal fat clogging your arteries! When you do, I'll have my dogs pee on your grave as revenge!

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Author: medium rare
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:39 pm

we live in america, and if ryan wants to watch animals being slaughtered he has every right to do it without getting a lecture from kimberly or any of her other pinhead PETA friends.

kimberly, there's nothing like a good steak. you don't know what you're missing.
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Author: Tofu Lover
Date: 07/26/2001, 12:40 pm

Kimberly- speaking as a vegetarian of 13 years, let me just say-- shut up! This is a troll post, not an excuse for you to go on a PETA inspired rant.
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Author: Leone
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:17 pm

Kimberly, I like your fire! The image of your dogs peeing on Bert made me smile. I know someone with a mink coat, but from what I've hear, even PETA disavows any involvement with those mean little critters. Good luck with this Fodor bunch though ... you're wandered into a real beef and potato crowd. Ciao
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Author: kimberly
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:18 pm

To Tofu Lover
I respect your right to criticize. But unless we stick together helpless and defenseless animals will continue to be killed.

Yes this is a travel site. But, animals don't get vacations but inhuman people do.

I've already contacted several organizations in Montana and we are going to stop this death camp!
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Author: medium rare
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:26 pm

oh kimberly, get over yourself.

nobody gives a rats ass about you or your politics.
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Author: Tofu Lover
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:27 pm

This "death camp" that may or may not exist, except perhaps in the mind of some guy on a travel forum (who THINKS it was in Montana) and who may or may not be a troll? Okaaaay... Well, good luck!
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Author: TWOINONE
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:30 pm

People, please wake up! Ryan and Kimmy are obviously one and the same person just stirring things up like a good troll does. Note that Kimmy spelled vegan in her last posting as vagan. At least be consistent in your spellings if you are going to troll.

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Author: ryan
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:33 pm

To Two in One,
Actually, its three in one. It is a slow day on the trading floor and thought I would try a little experiment.

Sorry to waste anyone's time

Ryan/Kimberly/Bert
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Author: westerner
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:34 pm

This is hilarious!! First off, Ryan, you will find many ranches with cattle drives but you won't find a one that slaughters the cattle right there. The cattle are shipped off via semis to packing plants--that is where they are killed. Maybe you are thinking of a cattle drive/branding. That would be an interesting trip, especially if you're from an urban area and have never seen a working ranch.

Kimberly, get a grip. Most PETA crazed liberals are so intent on forcing others to their behavior that they forget the true definition of liberalism. I thought you were the party of compassion and acceptance. I'll let you in on a little secret--those of us who live in cattle country privately (because we were taught manners by our mothers) mock your hysterical behavior. I won't post again because I'm sure you'll rant and rave for days if people will respond. By all means, call your congressman, urinate on whomever you feel has offended you in some way and generally behave like a fool--it makes the rest of us seem positively sane in comparison.
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Author: xxx
Date: 07/26/2001, 01:52 pm

The sad thing is the Leone is for real!
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Author: Carnivore
Date: 07/26/2001, 02:05 pm

Kimberly:
"Animals don't get vacations"? I'm STILL laughing at that one!
Leone:
"I know someone with a mink coat" What the hell does THAT mean????
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Author: Leone
Date: 07/26/2001, 02:56 pm

Well, XXX (I don't approve but mom calls you "porno), people have branded you as negative, so I shall just leave it at that. Now, Canrivore, confused over a mink coat? If you know anything about those nice rich little pelty things, they have a mean streak a smile wide. So, wouldn't it be fun if mink were the one thing PETA refused to defend. But unhappily for the coat owners, PETA has a rep for throwing red paint, which leaves the Dry Cleaning Institute scratching its head. Now, I just cannot do it with numbers while you try to draw a connecting line. Ciao
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Author: Carnivore
Date: 07/26/2001, 03:48 pm

Leone:
Either stop taking the meds or get on them, cuz, brother, you make no sense. I guess what I find truly scary is how intelligent you seem to think you are. Honey, do us all a favor...sit down and re-read your contributions on all posts...then just sit down.
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Author: amentowhat
Date: 07/26/2001, 03:56 pm

Carnivore,

I could not have summed up L/Leone's postings better. The guy's posts just get more and more bizarre. I think all the time he spends parked in front of the computer is really frying his brain. In my book the L he uses as his posting name stands for Lunatic! I am sure he will now come back with some cute retort that will be complete and utter nonsense.
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Author: Not Bothered
Date: 07/26/2001, 04:02 pm

Oh, let's give L a break. He's like our resident Dennis Miller. Most of his posts make no sense, but every now and then, one of them really clicks. I actually think there are several L's inside of L, all fighting for the keyboard. So for me, it is fun to read them and figure out which L is posting this time.

And at least L is brief, unlike Oaktown, who just prattles on and on.
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Author: emmy
Date: 07/26/2001, 04:05 pm

Not Bothered I think you're right. Either L/Leone is Dennis Miller or Johnny Cash because they all wear black, black and more black.
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Author: Carnivore
Date: 07/26/2001, 04:18 pm

Not Bothered:
Comparing Dennis Miller to Leone/L is like comparing Groucho Marx to Moe of the Three Stooges.
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Author: xxx
Date: 07/26/2001, 04:19 pm

Is Leone male or female?
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Author: Leone
Date: 07/26/2001, 04:59 pm

Well, so my posts don't make any sense to you? My god, I thought they had, and talk about a Major Fret. Meds? Come on, now, you can do better than that ... what a tired old slur. Male or female? Asked and answered, XXX, but what's still unclear is why you're so negative ... notice that particular descriptive never shows up with me. And Carnivore, what a charming name for posting ... and your message is so consistent, LOL ... to quote you to you, "sit down and re-read your contributions on all posts .. then sit down." Gee, didn't you drop a stitch in there somewhere, Carnivore? My posts more bizarre ... Lunatic? May I refer you to the Bereavement posting or Carry-On Luggage, and consider my ideas and thoughts in the context of the crazies gnashing their teeth over the major issues of our day (like, doesn't that overhead belong to the seat below?). And no, my brain is not fried or fatty or any of that ... I take it rare, Amentowhat (excuse me, but what in hell does your name mean?). And Not Bothered, try patronizing one who needs it. And Emmy, thanks for paying attention to the b, b and m b, but outlaw I'm not, but rings of fire I loved. I assume you get it. And for the theory there are several L's ... of course there are ... all working in harmony. You know, I think I now understand ... ever since I began this response, I've had this vision of aluminum siding ... hey, it's not emanating from me. One of you must be two dimensional. Who is most bothered by the multiple L reality? But now, must run, but remember, if you come to dance, first take a lesson. Otherwise first thing you know, you're out on the floor and embarrassing yourself. Have a good afternoon, and it has been a real gas exchanging ideas with you, but I imagine our paths will cross no more. Ciao, L
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Author: Not bothered
Date: 07/26/2001, 05:40 pm

So much for L being brief.

Aw, L, I wasn't trying to insult you. Read my post again, and you'll see.

L is a mystery man, I think, and (I'm going out on a limb here) he might work in the government regulating some aspect of safety, like Consumer Product Safety or some such. I actually think he's got a pretty good size brain, and I like that in a man.

L, how did I do?
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Author: Troll Buster
Date: 07/26/2001, 05:48 pm

Ok, now we're really trolling. Brilliant, Ryan, an especially creative and downright chilling troll.

How do we know it is a troll? I checked the Travel Channel's program schedule for the last few weeks. No such program was broadcast.

Ryan, please try again, as you have a real talent for trolling rarely seen on the board. I'll be waiting.

Toodles!
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Author: ryan
Date: 07/26/2001, 06:01 pm

Thanks Troll Buster. I though the Donner reference would be a sure give away.

I have to mention a hilariously funny book called "Letter's from a Nut" that inspired me to this stupidity.

This guy, some think it is Jerry Seinfeld, wrote these absolutely bizarre and entertaining letters to Hotels/Restaurants/Retail Stores that are just brillant.

One example, he wrote to the Nordstrom's store manager in San Diego asking to purchase a mannequin in that look liked his dead next door neighbor to present to his family as a gift. The responses from Nordstroms are equally amusing in their seriousness.

Honestly, it is one of the funniest books that I have ever seen.
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Author: whatadull
Date: 07/26/2001, 06:18 pm

Ryan, Thanks for livening up an otherwise dull Thursday here at Fodors. (And I was just about to go off on the PETA people) Nice try though!
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Author: Lhasreallylostit
Date: 07/26/2001, 06:24 pm

L,

Earth to L! Earth to L! Let's just cut to the chase L - either you are a complete idiot or you are insane. Quit polluting this board with your senseless posts. It is obvious that you get off on the attention that you get on this board - good or bad. Otherwise you would not keep arguments going and respond to every single post you come across.

I can understand the confusion over whether you are a male or female - I have not run across many men with the name Leone who use the word ciao constantly-not exactly a manly image you are conveying there sweetie.

Oh and to what Not Bothered said in your defense - I agree that you are probably a federal government worker because you obviously have way too much time on your hands for goofing around on the internet during the workday.
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Author: Tofu Lover
Date: 07/26/2001, 06:59 pm

Ryan-

I was pretty sure you were a troll from the beginning, and "Kimberly" was making me suspicious, but you totally got me with "Burt"!

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Author: tammie
Date: 07/26/2001, 08:51 pm

I cannot understand why any of us would be interested in this crap. Is this a travel site or are we just here to insult each other? What a worthless thread this is. Why do you people respond? I'm new to Fodor's and not coming back. It's just garbage.
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Author: x
Date: 07/26/2001, 09:23 pm

aw, c'mon tammie. we're just havin' a little fun. don't go away - we're all very nice people. well, most of us anyway.
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Author: topper2
Date: 07/27/2001, 08:53 am

Take it away!
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Author: xxx
Date: 07/27/2001, 01:00 pm

3 1/2 more weeks to school starts! YEA! Then the juveniles will be off of here! I hope you little delinquents get so much homework you can't do anything else!!
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Author: Leone
Date: 07/27/2001, 01:07 pm

And, yes, the name ... have you bothered to look it up ... it's not feminine, and neither is the word ciao ... get yourself an It. dict. ... and BTW, I do have one coming up soon ... because I am a L.. and in It. that is L..... Anyone see the light yet? It's a small one, admittedly. But I thought I'd at least get the name stuff cleared up. For I'm afraid you're stuck with me for a while longer, but not on this one again. My sympathies, but hey, you might actually slip up and experience a "click" with me here and there. And of course not, no mystery. But if the FBI advertises for a profiler, pass. Actually one of the posters knows me personally; s/he doesn't think I'm around the bend or nuts, so why should you? No, you're correct ... that wasn't brief ... but then, how many was I addressing, and with each I did try to get to the heart of the matter. Perhaps an insult was not intended, but then, what do you expect ... look at the company you keep. Moving along, but thanks for the time. By the way, a name change is always an option if the insults get too heavy. I know some good ones too. Ciao
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Author: quitwhining
Date: 07/27/2001, 01:13 pm

Will you really be happy then xxx? Think about it, you'll have no one to bitch at, then what will you do all day?
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Author: Lhasreallylostit
Date: 07/27/2001, 01:48 pm

L/Leone,

You are so predictable - I expected you to respond with incoherent psycho babble and you came through.

Please L, slowly back away from the computer - it is real easy - you just push your chair back and get up. Then there is this thing that is spelled d o o r- door - you will be amazed to find that if you turn the knob it will open to the outside world. Next try to find something that is spelled j o b - job. Then maybe, just maybe, you will find something spelled l i f e - life. Good luck - you will need it.
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Author: L fan
Date: 07/27/2001, 01:56 pm

it is obvious that several of you are j e a l o u s - jealous of l e o n e - leone. the guy is a free t h i n k e r - thinker and is dead on with alot of his posts. by saying you don't understand what he's saying you're insulting y o u r s e l f - yourself. his posts are not that hard to understand.

now go a w a y - away.

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Author: ryan
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:12 pm

Come on people, I made up this stupidity in order to have some fun and hopefully give people a laugh with riduculous lines like "animals don't get vacations"

It was all meant in good fun and not as a forum to bitch about one another.
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Author: Carnivore
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:17 pm

Ryan:
I DID find your "animals don't get vacations" VERY amusing - check out my earlier post.
P.S. People will always bitch. It's what separates us from the animals!!!!!!!
L: do you get why I'm signing in as "Carnivore" now???? It goes with the topic.
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Author: Ryan, please
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:17 pm

Ryan, please don't disturb us while we're venting!

how many times can you tell people what to do on "the big island" before starting to get loopy? this is just an outlet; we're really quite fond of each other.
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Author: Doc
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:19 pm

Ryan-You are a psychotic guy and a weirdo. Why don't you check yourself into a mental hospital or go see a competent shrink to figure out why you seek attention and are psychotic....
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Author: Lhasreallylostit
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:53 pm

L fan,

Here is a word for you - L O S E R - Loser.
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Author: abc
Date: 07/27/2001, 02:57 pm

Well, Ryan, I enjoyed your troll, too. But next time, stick with it a little longer and don't fess up until you're really, really busted. This was like, well, premature you-know-what.
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Author: L fan
Date: 07/27/2001, 03:15 pm

...and here's one for you, Lhasreallylostit:

u n o r i g i n a l - unoriginal.
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Author: PAE
Date: 01/25/2003, 02:05 pm

Pulling up my first troll, for old times sake. God, what'll I do for fun now on a slow day.
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Author: kate
Date: 01/25/2003, 04:44 pm

PAE-Thank you! I have been sitting here laughing my head off!
An excellent troll if I ever saw one
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Author: Giggling Vegetarian
Date: 01/25/2003, 06:59 pm

As a vegetarian of more than 25 years (good god, I'm old!), even I appreciate this classic troll post from 2001. Good job, Ryan!
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Author: X
Date: 01/25/2003, 10:40 pm

YOU rope it, YOU stun it, YOU cut its throat, YOU cut it up, YOU cook it..just the way you like it. Mel's
Char House right on highway 14
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Author: Jim
Date: 01/25/2003, 10:53 pm

This is obviously a troll, I mean "Donner party" I get it, but this actually does happen all the time in Argentina and its called Asado.
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Author: xxx
Date: 01/25/2003, 10:57 pm

Mel's, isn't that place that serves Bass Frappes made with an original "bassomatic?"
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Author: junebug
Date: 01/25/2003, 11:08 pm

Holy ... cow, people. I nominate this one for the year-end Most Bizarre Troll Rant thread. Although perhaps it doesn't qualify since it didn't start in 2003.
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Author: what
Date: 01/25/2003, 11:25 pm

junebug, you are missing the point I think.
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Author: xxx
Date: 01/26/2003, 01:15 am

Can I name my cow George Bush. Same blank stare.
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Author: Steve
Date: 01/26/2003, 01:33 am

No, you may not name your cow George Bush (Sr or Jr). That would be a brutish slight to a defenseless bovine.
A cow has far too many brains and personality to be named George Bush (Sr or Jr).
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Author: Jon-Eric
Date: 01/26/2003, 11:54 am

You could name your cow, Al Gore... if it cried pretty, long and loud.
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Author: NoFriend
Date: 01/26/2003, 12:53 pm

You could name your cow Hillary, it you fattened it up a bit first.
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Author: jr
Date: 01/26/2003, 01:39 pm

You could name it Barb Bush. Just put some pearls on her , it would be a dead ringer for the old gal.
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Author: thebrits
Date: 01/26/2003, 09:52 pm

I have to laugh at these PETA people. An innocent question is asked and an attack is made..What is up with that!

I have a question to ask you PETA fans, check out some of your cloting items, accessories, you will be surprized to find they are made by animals. Or how about the food you eat. I am asuming half of you must walk around naked!