What is a 'pension' & why is it called that?
 

Looking for B & B's in Austria, I've come across lodgings called pensions. First thing I think of, is company or old age pension, but obviously this isn't it, lol.

Would it be advisable to bring our own towels? One B & B I contacted by email stated they don't supply them...is this common?

Thanks so much!

Hi im,

It is a "pensionE", which is a small hotel.

A B&B, is a "zimmerfrei", a home that rents rooms.

Where will you be in Austria?

((I))

I believe the word is "pension." In Italian it is called "pensione"

Hi EK,

I have seen it as pensione in France as well.

Perhaps to keep from confusing anglophones?

Thanks to you both!

Ira, we are not 100% sure where in Austria we'll stay yet but are getting close, with all the help from you & fellow Fodorites!

Right now it looks like perhaps Baden...

In French it is pension, not pensione.

Hi im,

Where in Austria is Baden?

The Larousse says that a pension (when it isn't the payment of money) is:
1. a place where one receives room and board.(i.e. an inn)
2. a boarding school.

Pension, no matter how you spell it, is a boarding house. Sometimes you see them as half board (breakfast + lunch) or as full board (3 meals). The term has been used all over Europe prior to the popularity of the Irish/British term B&B.

No towels at a B&B? I would find another B&B.

See Katherine Mansfield, 'In A German Pension' (1911).

It's pension in German.

I have stayed in pension(e)s, B&Bs, chambres d'hôtes, inns, hotels...from two to five stars...across western Europe and I've never come across one that didn't supply towels! I agree with hopscotch - no towels is not a good sign. The only place I would expect to need my own towels is a hostel.

Ira, here is a bit of info on Baden....I came across it yesterday & was surfing...looks to be a very nice place.

Baden is a spa town and medieval city in Lower Austria, 26 kilometres south of Vienna, with a population of 25,207 (2005). Frequently, the name is given as Baden bei Wien (Baden near Vienna); this name, however, is not official, but can be used to distinguish it from other cities of the same name such as Baden-Baden or Baden, Switzerland.

We stayed at this Pension in Vienna. It's part of a building and has a great location. We DID NOT have to supply towels. http://www.pertschy.com/pension1_e.html

Travelfan, thanks for the URL...& thanks everyone for the info on towels...good to know!

Check out TripAdvisor. Many pensions are very well rated. You just won't have all the amenities that you receive at a full service hotel. On the other hand, if you don't need all the flash of a hotel, its a good choice. They can be equally well located as a 5 star hotel, and many provide a nice breakfast which you would have to pay for seperately if you were staying at a hotel.

The equivalent, old-fashioned, term in English would be "boarding house". The implication is that it's the propietor's home and that some or all meals are included. There might even be some implication of living "en famille", at least until recently.

But why the name for it in most continental languages is used in English to mean what in most continental languages is expressed by a word that's cognate with the English "rent" is anyone's business....

In German, "Pension" has three meanings:

First, the retirement pay for public officials with a special status ("Beamte").

Secondly, a guesthouse. A Pension is a small hotel with at least 8 beds but not more than 20 rooms (official definition). Usually guests stay for a week or longer in a Pension.

Thirdly, the meal plan. "Vollpension" is full board, "Halbpension" half board.

"Pension" is not necessarily a boarding house; in France, for example, the word is used to signify a meal plan that can be taken with a hotel room. "Demi-pension" means breakfast plus either lunch or dinner; full "pension" means all 3 meals.

The word comes from latin "pensio" = to balance and originally meant "payment". Pension was the payment for boarding and eventually became the word for boardinghouse and later the word for a guesthouse.

It isn't really a boarding house nowadays, and not in Austria. It's just like a B&B, more or less. They call that a pension in Austria, and they have their own rating system. I've stayed at one.

They don't really use that term in France much, it's not common there, but when they do, it is "pension", there is no "e" at the end. That is even a regular word in a French dictionary, but no "e" at the end.

I stayed at one in Vienna, and it's just like a family-run budget hotel, only may have a few differences (ie, no regular lobby, may not be on the ground floor, etc., and probably no one at a desk at night).

It is very uncommon for them not to provide towels -- all the ones I've seen do, but those were more for tourists as hotels. If you found one that really was functioning as a boarding house for long term, I could understand that.

I have to disagree--the term "pension" is used quite a lot by French hotel/restaurants. In high season pension is often required.

I checked with my best friend Le Petit Robert, and it confirmed what I thought, the original term was at least in French: Pension de Famille, that is a hotel establishment where the conditions ( both of eating and staying there) have a familiar aspect. Of course I guess we all know that one can rent a room in a hotel with demi-pension ( only one meal +breakfast ) or full pension,pension complete all meals. I agree that lately the term is not very much used, except in those establishment that have a tradition, like the beautiful Hotel Pensione La Calcina in Venice.-
In Argentina though the term intermigled with the term conventillo is a little pejorative,
I guess mainly from its use in the lirics of Tango and Milongas ....

In Holland a pension is a small, usually family run, hotel or guest house.
A dierenpension is a boarding kennels.
A pensioen is what you get when you retire.

And a Katzenpension is where my cat stays when I go on vacation. My dog stays at a Hundehotel. Both are full-pension. (I'm not kidding.)

>What is a 'pension'...

Is that pronounced loo-tenant or lef-tenant?

((I))

Rhymes with suspension. In French, of course.

Sounds like pen-see-ohn.

About a week before my 21st birthday, I stayed in a <i>pension</i> in Lausanne. The housemother was right out of The Brothers Grimm, and when she said the doors would be locked at ten o'clock, she didn't mean 10:00:25

I learned a lot about climbing downspouts that summer.

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