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What I like (and don't like) about Fodor's Talk

Apr 17th, 2005, 04:23 PM
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>No matter that we tend to give absolute advice on places that we've never actually been...<

Unlike the vast majority of the human race.

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Apr 17th, 2005, 07:46 PM
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I found this site the first time when I read about Ira's trip with his mother to Paris. (Ira, I value your comments/reports on any subjects. You have a special touch.) I have been to France many times without learning before hand about dos/don'ts. Looking back, I think I made some mistakes, but not too bad, that cannot be forgiven by the French. I know just enough French to get by, due to lack of practice. I have a French penpal who I visit each time I go to France. He and his family do not speak English. I learned a lot from this site. Other than Ira, there are several screen names that I take notes. Next Thursday, will be my first time back to Paris after dicovering this site. I will do some things that worked for me in the past but not very popular ways with some of the Fodorites. I will follow some advices that I learned from you. I know that this will be a different trip for me since I am now aware of different aspects of France. I just want to let you know that I appreciate the information you guys give. I just skipped the ones that were not pleasant. However, this is the best site. It is entertaining, informative, and addictive.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 02:16 AM
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I have never participated in an Internet "chat room" and didn't plan to do it here (i.e., just wanted to check out some travel tips), but as many have noted, this site is ADDICTIVE! I find myself gravitating to the fight-threads almost as often as the ones I need for my next trip. Although so far I've been able to resist throwing in my two cents when there's a dispute, I can't resist following some of the arguments (especially when they involve people that I've fully conjured up in my imagination). And as someone wisely noted, no one's forcing anyone to read anything they find distasteful!
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Apr 18th, 2005, 02:20 AM
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the good
some great finds and helpful suggestions on a huge range of travel issues
lots of traffic - always something new and interesting
some good search facilities

the bad
how rude and aggressive people very frequently respond to an often interesting topic, completely ruining it for all - other than themselves apparently. Difficult to understand motivation and extremely irritating

strong american bias - yes I know it is an american message board
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Apr 18th, 2005, 03:11 AM
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It is a bit annoying when a poster assumes all other posters are American.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 04:29 AM
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The erudition on these threads is often astonishing. Not many places to go, in our dumbed-down world, to find people debating Latin declensions -- or insulting one another in Latin -- ostensibly when writing about Rome.

If only the search feature worked better -- or if only I could work it better.

I feel some empathy for those who ask basic questions, rather than searching first. I can find any poster by clicking on a name. But I can't find anything I want in the archives. Me or the system??

Sometimes the provocative threads are funny to read, troll-started or not.

I frequently feel my age (52) these days. But when I come here, I realize that some/ many (not all) of my contemporaries still harbour that "inner child": the schoolyard taunting takes me back 40 years. I feel rejuvenated just reading it (LOL!)

Finally, many posters show great compassion to others experiencing hardship. I have nothing but gratitude for the supportive thoughts and words of those posters.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 04:42 AM
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Agree about the sub-par search function, which is partly to blame for the many repetitive questions. As to the personalities, I find the board a bit like the Happy Families game; people (including myself) eventually fall into a defining category that becomes a stereotype or caricature: the Knowledgeable Londoner, the Computer Curmudgeon, the Southern Belle, the New York Food Snob, the One Trip Expert, the Non-Stop Traveler, Mama Troll, Baby Troll, Earnest Young Man from Down Under, Retired Scholar, etc. Please don't misunderstand--I ENJOY the and am not criticizing, only observing. And participating, as the Homeschooling Mom (which category was assigned to me by a particularly obnoxious and dismissive poster, The Trophy Wife Traveler).
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Apr 18th, 2005, 04:44 AM
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-breadth and depth of knowledge base: many posters here really know their subjects

-willingness to help: the vast majority of people on this board seem genuinely interested in helping others with travel questions


-a nasty undercurrent occasionally surfaces here, with snide, even downright hurtful commentary
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Apr 18th, 2005, 04:51 AM
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sorry, that should read "enjoy the game." I think faster than I type, and sometimes I type faster than my better judgment.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 06:50 AM
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kswl brings up something that could be improved upon .... An editing function that can be applied by the OP after a post is entered.

So many times, even after a proofread, I notice a misspelled word or a sentence that doesn't read as well as I would have liked.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 07:09 AM
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This is a clear-cut editing deficiency...

if you click "Preview my reply" (when starting a NEW message)... it is already TOO LATE to edit a mistake in the message header. That is a big software "Achilles heel".

The only work around is to "cut and paste" your entire message (to your clipboard), cancel the post, and start all over, by pasting the message (text) into a re-try, with a corrected mesage header.

But what are the odds that a newbie (or even a "veteran") will have the presence of mind to think to do that!?

And of course, there is the (unforgiveable in my opinion) failure of Fodors to inform new registrants (or even acknowlege in the the FAQs - - "HELP" web page) the importance of "click on your own name", to find your previous posts.

Best wishes,

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Apr 18th, 2005, 07:19 AM
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>...if you click "Preview my reply" it is already TOO LATE to edit a mistake ..<

Even if you are replying to a post.

See above
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Apr 18th, 2005, 07:24 AM
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<<Even if you are replying to a post.

See above>>

huh? See what above?

No, it is not too late to edit a post, if you are not the OP. You just click on "edit"...

It's true that it appears in the right hand column (during "Preview"), as if it is "final" - - but you can still edit it. I can see this right now - - as I did a Preview, when I had only typed "huh?", then clicked "edit" and continued on...
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Apr 18th, 2005, 08:33 AM
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Minor peeve: when the editors go in and purge a thread of vile remarks, leaving some of the not-so-vile replies in place. Makes one look completely insane. (Happened on the "trust" thread this morning.) I'd really rather they took out my replies as well, as they are now connected to nothing and I sound as if I'm hallucinating.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 11:03 AM
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That is hilarious, M.f., you are absolutely correct. That whole thread now reads like Schizophrenic Travelers Anonymous.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 11:15 AM
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Here here Marilyn! I don't mind at all when threads get pulled, just take the whole darn kit-n-caboodle please. Keep me from madly searching for reference "above" that is no longer there.
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Apr 18th, 2005, 11:38 AM
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What I like: the info from common travelers. And I never pass up the chance to read a shoe post. Love the clever humor, too. On the US board I really enjoy Freaky Friday Rants & Raves.

What I don't like: the Nth people. ("What is the best restaurant in ______?" "Nightmare at ______", "Never stay at ______ again!")
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Apr 18th, 2005, 01:15 PM
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The good: Some posters
The bad: Some posters
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Apr 19th, 2005, 02:44 AM
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kswl: Your post made me laugh. Southern belle -- New York Food Snob --whomever DO you mean.....LOL.

(Guess if you choose the screen name NYFS you are asking to be pigeon-holed.)

No doubt most of us think of ourselves as little concentrations of spontaneity, incapable of boring others with our crochets, our predictable rants and raves and idees fixes.

Useful to be reminded that custom can indeed stale our infinite variety (Shakespeare, folks), if it ever existed.

Just musing about what MY stereotype may be -- but please do not tell me; I think I know....
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Apr 19th, 2005, 03:52 AM
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Personally I love the banter and can't abide the holier-than-thou attitude some people take! Sometimes it's like encountering a Fodor's love-in! (And I thought the 60s were over!)

I'm afraid that I see nothing wrong with telling people that they've asked a stupid question and lack common sense ("How many pairs of knickers should I take?" or "How many days before I travel should I start packing?" and the like!).

However, on the occasions that I can help people, I love to do so, particularly if they're coming to London/Britain. Vacation time is valuable and when we can, we should all make the most of it. Nothing more depressing and wasteful than a bad holiday..!
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