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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:00 PM
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Surfergirl you next visit to paris will be in a 4 x 4 hotel room.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:03 PM
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Mitch, you just signed up for Fodors this month - and just to threaten Surfergirl? Trying to get the editors to pull this thread?
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:10 PM
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Shanti,Have you got to be in this for years to comment ?
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:14 PM
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Guys if you walk into an apartment which is dirty and you dont feel comfortable staying in there you are fully entitled to,
1. Move to a hotel and ask for a full refund
2. Request that you be moved to another apartment.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:22 PM
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Extorted a refund? I don't believe I read that there was a refund. There was an offer of $100 to settle, and that was refused. Negotiations appeared to break down after that.

Comments on the internet have to be examined for signs of trustworthiness and to determine how much weight to give to someone's comments. I was unfamiliar with the OP in that thread but her comments were highly credible and documented with photos and written in a non-inflammatory style.

When somebody comes in with inflammatory comments such as "Surfergirl you next visit to paris will be in a 4 x 4 hotel room" and no previous record of well considered comments to add credibility, you can not expect people to take them enormously seriously.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:29 PM
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If you make full use of an apartment and then ask for a refund then refuse what the other party could offer you ( dont forget they are in business ) I am sorry the next time you only deserve a 4 x 4 hotel room.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:31 PM
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When most people first post on Fodor's, they're usually asking for travel advice. When a person's first post on any thread is either extremely negative or positive - like your post above - I wonder about a hidden agenda.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:32 PM
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Umm, and this applies to Surfergirl how?
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:33 PM
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I thought the whole case was somewhat ambiguous and was hoping for more information, even though I am not concerned (since I live in Paris). The renter's photos showed some very small areas of the apartment which were not nice at all, but there was no denunciation of the basic overall look of the place. There did seem to be a valid reason to make a formal complaint, but I wanted to know more before making my own decision.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:38 PM
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For anyone interesrted, information on why the post was pulled read:

VIRUS ALERT from Fodors Europe Thread: www.supercars.
blogspot Posted by: tedgale on Jan 23, 10 at 9:38am
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:47 PM
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Just because Sufergirl was supporting the idea that one could rent an apartment make full use of it and then try to get some money back which most people try nowadays which I do not approve.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 01:47 PM
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Opps....I should have added that post by tedgale has dropped down into the next page. Don't click on the highlighted part above.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:02 PM
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Shanti I am a person who travels a lot to paris on business and during my earlier days used hotels and then on a recommendation by a friend used an apartment and realised the advantages as against a hotel.I was surprised that the OP refused the 100$ refund offered by the agent.Most places would not give you a cent back if you use the apartment.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:07 PM
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Well Lizzie101 has reposted under the title "Cautionary Tale of Apartment Rental goes missing.

Her initial post on this new thread is exactly that of the original, which makes me wonder whether she really does have a grudge going and is using this forum to bash a company.

Though I did learn a lot from the different opinions offered, there were several companies named as alternative to the one the OP was unhappy with and it did looked like there was some advertising going.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:14 PM
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"Guys if you walk into an apartment which is dirty and you dont feel comfortable staying in there you are fully entitled to,
1. Move to a hotel and ask for a full refund
2. Request that you be moved to another apartment."

mitch59- Who is it that fully entitles a client to a refund or another apartment? The owner? The leasing agency? The French Government? The Better Business Bureau if dealing with an American company? How does that work?

I have always been required to send a 50% downpayment upon reservation of Paris apartments and pay the rest (plus a security deposit) in cash upon arrival. If I find myself in a dirty or misrepresented apartment will the representative meeting me at the apartment have that much cash on him or have the authority to give it back to me? What if problems only become apparent after the agency representative has left? I worry about my chances of being moved or given a full refund at that point.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:26 PM
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Mitch, the description of what was in the apartment was not accurate along with the quality of cleanliness and problems with toilets. Depending on the length of the OP's stay and the price per night I certainly would consider a $100 refund not a worthy offer.

It's easy to maintain a good reputation when there are no problems but when problems do occur the manner in which they are handled shows the integrity and customer service of the company.

The OP extorted nothing, it was a cautionary tale!! Deborah
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:35 PM
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If you move to a hotel room because the apartment is not as advertised, is significantly dirty and unkempt, who is going to pay for the last minute hotel room? I'm thinking that's going to cost a bundle, require some jet-lagged negotiating and with no guarantee that the rental agency is going to respond to the complaint in a timely manner.
The original thread would be good as a teaching tool. I love renting apartments and I do seek out the cheaper ones so this kind of information is great for me. I'm willing to deal with a cracked toilet but not a grody kitchen.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:48 PM
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amwosu-If you book your apartment through an agency you have a contract with them. Once you arrive at the apartment and if you are not happy you could call the agency and either request a refund or a relocation.If it is a reputed agency they will refund the amount to your credit card ( had you paid by card ) or relocate you into another apartment.You could even negotiate a discount if you decide to stay in the apartment and if some appliances are broken or out of service.But remember you must do all this on the first day in paris.Some agencies even have a clause on the contract which says Any disputes must be settled with the local manager while you are in the apartment.Hope this answers all your questions.
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 02:50 PM
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Lizzy reposted. So if anyone missed it & wants to read it... now's the time (in case it goes missing again)!
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Jan 23rd, 2010, 05:53 PM
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Mitch, I never said anything of the sort.
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