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What do you to those people who put down Paris when you are about to go.

What do you to those people who put down Paris when you are about to go.

Oct 4th, 2002, 10:27 AM
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hmm
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Too often, people I know (and dislike) brag about their trips (and other things). I don't know why you feel the need to tell anyone that you are going, or why should care what their response would be. Sounds like you just don't like the fact that everyone isn't impressed by your trip plans. If you need some kind of positive feedback, get a shrink or pay a hooker.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 10:31 AM
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There are some good Paris threads on here. There is a particularly good one from a student who is living over there as well as one from earlier this week from someone who had just returned saying how wrong the naysayers were. Look under France, they are both very recent. Enjoy your trip, you won't regret it for a second.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 10:37 AM
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To hmmmm,
the people I share my vacation plans with are my family and my coworkers who know I will be out of the office and wonder where I am going.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 10:46 AM
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Our last trip to Europe had many of our friends shaking their heads as to why we would go to such expense for a vacation. One friend in fact even asked why we'd do this when we can see anything we'd want on TV. (Yes, his words exactly.) We laughed about that during our entire trip. After hearing about our niece, Lisa's, trip to New Zealand we decided to book at trip there. We were telling this same friend's wife about our plans when she very seriously asked "Why would you ever spend so much to go to New Zealand when you have Lisa's pictures?". To say the least, they aren't travellers.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 10:49 AM
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This is my 2 cents . I've been nearly everywhere in the US , Canada. My family of four went to Paris last Christmas ( children 9 & 11). It was the best time we ever had even though it rained a little and was about 35 degrees everyday. The food & museums were captivating for all of us. Some people we met in Paris said they had terrible meals. There are closed minded people everywhere. Keep an open mind and enjoy yourself.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 11:11 AM
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Doug: How I envy you! I went to Paris for the first time in the spring, and although I had heard about the rude people, the bad food, the urine smell in the metro, the dog poop, etc., I don't recall any of it - I was too busy looking at the Eiffel Tower, strolling the Champs Elysees, taking photos of the Arc de Triomphe, staring at Notre Dame, tasting wonderful food, seeing beautiful works of art in the Louvre and Musee D'Orsay, and reminding myself that it wasn't all a dream - I really WAS in Paris! And the people? They are quite reserved compared to Americans, but very helpful and courteous. Have a wonderful anniversary trip!
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 11:49 AM
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I have been to Paris... the food was excellent and the people where rude.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:03 PM
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SA
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I found one of the threads I was speaking of Doug, I'll top it out.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:07 PM
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Doug: When people make those types of comments to me, and insist that I only like Paris because I speak French, I tell them the story of the first time my husband went with me to Paris. He claimed that he hated Paris when he was there in his college days. However, when he went with me, he had a wonderful time and said he was all mistaken about Paris. I think the difference was that he saw more "real people" and even said "Bonjour" to waiters, hotel employees and shopkeepers. They smiled and responded and he felt like he "connected" to the locals. It just took a little effort and a better attitude on his part. Some people have even taken my advice and had a much better time than they expected when they visited France.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:23 PM
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I have been to Paris many times... the food was excellent and the people were helpful and friendly.
There are always some little things that we are not happy about it, like a taxi driver who tried to charge us twice than what a meter showed or smell in one metro station. But there are so many wonderful, unforgettable things about Paris that I want to go back over and over again. However, I feel the same about Rome, Florence, Amsterdam and my hometown as well.
Keep you mind open to all new things when traveling and don't expect things being the same way like at home. That's why we are travelling, to see differences and there are always similarities like rude people I met not only in my hometown but many other places here and abroad too.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:32 PM
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I have been to Paris many times.

There are rude people in Paris. There are people who responded rudely because they asked for it. And there are people helpful irrespective of one's behavior in Paris. Like the story of Rashomon, I wouldn't doubt there are those who encountered nothing but first group of people in Paris, while others asked to be treated rudely by their behaviors; demandly always to be like in America is a very good way to get this treatment.

There are Paris restaurants serving awful food, no matter whose standard you use. And there are restaurants serving food cooked differently than what you are used to. Fortunately, there are less of first type of restaurant, but they do exist. I can understand why some say "I do not like the way the food is cooked in Paris", but that should not be equated to "French food is horrible."

When I go to Paris, I expect the fish to be cooked rare. When I am in US, I expect to be cooked well. When I go to a sushi restaurant, I expect the fish to be served raw. Each good restaurant figures out how to bring the flavor using their particular cooking method.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:58 PM
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I enjoy Paris because it is different.
If I wanted the "same" I would stay home . Kiss your wife on the Pont Neuf.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 01:00 PM
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I would echo ajrobins comments just about exactly -- including the value of THIS supportive community.

For me, I've learned that it is just best not to say very much to some people; maybe most. There are others with whom the experience can truly be shared. Outside of my immediate family and a very small circle of close friends, there are few people who even know how often I go to Paris (or anywhere else, for the matter). People who make negative comments like that have their own set of issues and there is a lot to be said for not giving them much to comment upon with respect to you or your activities.

Paris is a treasure and you will make it your own. Mid-October weather can often be marvelous, but even in less than fabulous weather, Paris is a place that you will be happy to be.

Happy Contrails!

 
Oct 4th, 2002, 01:10 PM
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While I agree that the "why are you going, Paris is awful, blah, blah" remarks are rude, silly etc., I STRONGLY disagree with this assumption that it stems from jealousy. Traveling to Europe, while a lot of fun, is not, relatively speaking, that big of deal in this day and age. In fact, it's not even all that adventurous. European cities such as Paris are very user friendly for the average bumbling, ugly American. On top of that, the price makes it extremely accessible. People like Kate who are tell you that you should feel "rightfully smug" sound even worse than the people bashing Paris. Smug about what??
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 01:21 PM
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You really don't need to say anything to these people at all. You're headed to Paris, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and they're not.

 
Oct 4th, 2002, 02:03 PM
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Ask if they have been to Paris. The answer should be no. Then reply that the people you have talked to that have gone to Paris, loved it. You may include the fine people on this web site as people you have talked to.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 02:19 PM
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Been There! Hate It! Not jealous 4 sure!
"oh, Paris, what a dream, what a fantasy"
I had a great attitude when I arrived but not when I left.
Rude, yes at every turn. Slamming doors in our face. Pushed my friend to the ground because he "thought" she was trying to jump a taxi line. You could be bleeding on the street and they would still push and shove you out of the way. No wonder Princess Diana died!
Filthy beyond compare. Urine everywhere. play hop scotch over the dog doo lining the sidwalks. Better keep your eyes fixed on the ground when you walk down the street, or else!
We made a fast decision not to eat anything that could possibly be made with eggs. The eggs tasted like chicken hineys.
Next time, choose wisely.
p.s. this only apply to Paris. not all of France.
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 02:21 PM
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Doug and Bride,

We spent a couple of enjoyable weeks in Paris during our annual November Honeymoon a few years ago. We always smile, say please and thank you and we usually receive the same in response. We list Paris among our favorite places in the world, although all our trips have been wonderful.

We have made 33 trips overseas using the same up-beat appreciative approach with whom-ever we deal with. We feel the secret to enjoyable travel is in your attitude. Most people will treat you as you treat them.

Enjoy your Paris "Honeymoon", J&J



 
Oct 4th, 2002, 02:52 PM
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Doug, the people who have been saying these things are soooo obviously ignorant, and it is so sad that they say it without having been there (although I cannot speak for the posters here who didn't like Paris). It is true, it's all about attitude and as long as you are polite, friendly, etc., you will elicit the same response. I've had so many wonderful experiences in Paris, with people who were helpful, doting, generous, and kind. The food is wonderful. And I've been there in all kinds of weather, but no matter what it's still a great place to be. Enjoy Paris, and if you really get cold feet about the trip, I'LL take your ticket!!!!! ;-)
 
Oct 4th, 2002, 03:32 PM
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I think some of you have all your taste in your mouths when it comes to Paris. I agree fully, Paris is city with unique attractions. No doubt about it.
But it has its downside, too.
I don't see losing your sense of perspective just because you are going to Paris, and therefore accepting any crummy hotel room just because "Its Paris". Nor do think it romantic, lovely, or anything other than putting on false pretenses to eat food that is poorly prepared just because "My dream was have a gourmet meal in Paris." Mediocre food served in Paris is still just that -- mediocre food. The location does not improve it.

The city is not the end all and be all of civilization, although the Louvre has much collection because of Napoleon's penchant for looting.

I try to keep Paris in perspective. Before my most recent trip, I did not roll my eyes up in my head and lapse into a dreamy coma. I have been there enough that I know some the bad features; I also know many of the good ones. Paris isn't perfect; no city is.

But if you enjoy certain smells, like those referenced above, you will love Paris. As for not knowing about the doggie doodie, just wait until you get some on your shoes and then tell me about how great it was.
 

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