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what are the best shoes to buy for sightseeing in europe ?

what are the best shoes to buy for sightseeing in europe ?

Old Jul 17th, 2001, 08:09 AM
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Oaktown! I noticed that on some other thread you mentioned that you wear jeans shorts in orange, green, and practically every other color of the rainbow. YIKES! And here you are saying that Ecco shoes are ugly... well perhaps they are, but they're a hell of a lot more attractive than orange jeans shorts!
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 08:35 AM
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Ariat boot(ies) are great! Waterproof leather, orthopedic footbed, great support, rubber treads, great width and they look terrific. Very stylish. The Ariat company was founded by women and they cut these shoes for women's feet. My booties are actually riding boots meant to be worn with jodphurs. I have terrible feet and walked many miles a day, and stood for hours for 10 days in Paris and NEVER had sore feet. I love them and wish I could find more, I'd buy 10 pairs. Marvelous.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 08:38 AM
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You woman know of course that once a man sees you in those god awful sensible shoes you are how you say "over the hill" If you are a woman you must always wear 5 inch heels, otherwise you are old and not sexy at all. So please don't wear old lady shoes anytime, follow the sacred rule, if they are comfortable they must be ugly and you must be old.
That is all I have to say, thank-you, it is now time for me to go and change my husbands diaper.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:05 AM
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Thanks for the laugh CELINED. That was funny. Thanks

You mean well but your Joan Collins tendency is showing a little bit.(wink)


Put your gun down.

My Orange jean shorts are certainly not ugly girl. Women and men alike absolutely love them and they let me know how well they look and fit!

As I stated I proudly wear, I mean strut, EVERY color of the rainbow and I am heavily complimented when I do so on travel or in my day-to-day journeys.

Fashion like travel can be quite colorful and can be great fun, just take the guard rails down and open your mind. I opend mind and I like the perspectives offered on Ecco shoes.
We have a new Ecco store in SF. So with that and the Ecco love shown by some Fordrites, I have a curosity.

Now, we also have a new Ferragamo Store in SF and your right, my money is going to Ferragamo. I am getting a bright red flat! Enough about me...

Annie, Go to your local up-scale department store and stop by Ralph Lauren for women or petites and take a look see for yourself. You will see the yello, green, red, orange and other color jeans that are really hot in California and abroad. Torquoise, pink and royal blue are also the rage!

Now of course you MUST have confidence and a sense of fashion to even think orange or any of the above colors. Additionally, orange does not look good on green people so that too would be something that you would have to compensate for...And you have to look good in jeans and in jean shorts...that my dear Annie is three strikes...sorry, stick with those yummy tans, beiges, browns etc.(wink)
Some of these colors are quite fashionable and comfortable, comforting, uniform too.

Oh, ANNIE, you get credit for admitting that Ecco shoes are indeed ugly so by all means keep that sliver of fashion sense about ya!

My Very Best!
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:35 AM
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Oaktown obviously has not seen the full Ecco line, which does include some pretty fashionable styles. Not saying those would be the best for walking, but they do exist.

For sandals especially that are quite cushy but with support and not expensive, check out www.cloudwalkers.com. Al;so, all their styles come in larger sizes and wide width, if you need it.

Anothe brand to look out for is Sudini, from Italy. I have a pair of their sandals which I love.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:49 AM
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Oaktown, even though you never give advice, much less helpful advice, you'RE (please note) certainly good for a laugh. I am not jealous, even though I am aware that you have a Masters degree from USC. (roll eyes) "gasp!" So, to answer your politely-phrased question, I look quite good in jeans, thank you. As I do in shorts . Running, swimming, and trainer workouts ensure that - although I do restrict shorts and similar casual attire to the beach. I do not wear Ecco shoes - my traveling style runs more towards Tods and Camper sneaks (this year, at least). I bring the Jimmy Choos and Sigerson Morrison for evenings. I wear bright colors with style and aplomb. They just happen to be tasteful - NOT orange jeans shorts, thank you very much. A nice orange cashmere sweater perhaps; or my brightly colored crocheted skirt from Anthropologie. Ralph Lauren in major department stores is a bit mass market for me.

Can't wait for your next posting!
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:56 AM
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If I, at my age, wore orange jeans shorts, I would be hooted off the plane, with a "piggy American" tatto on my butt. And orange jeans shorts just don't make it in a number of venues in Europe. There's a time and a place..... I'm not one of your fans, OT, and "strutting" to be "heavily complimented" is just not why I buy clothes. Your choice, but don't put down people who have different taste -- some of us think it's better taste than yours, as is obvious.

I remember a documentary called "Beauty Knows No Pain," which demonstrated very well how often fashion is defined by that which is NOT comfortable, NOT healthy, and NOT affordable, either.

Many Eccos are clunky. Some feet are clunky. Being over 50 is clunky, but I guarantee you, O.T. and everyone else, if you're LUCKY, you'll be over 50 some day too. At some point, you realize that "strutting" is a waste of good time and decent bone structure; and if being able to travel means wearing clunky shoes, you WEAR the clunky shoes.

When I see 4" high heels with thin straps and no support, I don't think "bravo!" -- I think "what an idiot!"

Sissy, do try on various styles -- Life Stride is good for many who don't like Eccos, and there's always Naturalizer (I wear their oxfords all winter).

Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:58 AM
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Ladies, please.... I look better in jeans than you are... Come on!!! Grow up!

Let's not let this leat into the conversation of the "proper" type of makeup for travelling.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 10:08 AM
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Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you need special shoes for Europe?

Don't you people ever walk in your normal day to day existance...or maybe you rollerblade from place to place???

Just use whatever comfortable shoe you normally wear for walking!!!
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 10:26 AM
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Just a PS to my post. Being a tidwad, and currently unemployed, I had a hard time spending the money on Ecco's too. There are 2 suggestions: 1) they sell them on eBay. I bought a pair that was "gently used" but were brand new. I ended up returning them because they didn't fit but they were CHEAP. 2) I ended up buying them on Zappos.com. I found an online coupon for 15% off (do a search for Zappos and coupon) plus they were offering free shipping/no tax. I figured it was a $20 savings and made it worthwhile.

Also, someone else recommended the Nine West Cloud Nines. They look like bowling shoes.

I also tout orthotics. However, but husband manufactures them so I can get as many pairs as I want.

Happy Walking.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 12:10 PM
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So how much do Eccos run anyway? (Can't find a good website that says.) What does it take ($$) to get a good pair of shoes - Eccos or otherwise?
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 01:37 PM
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Oaktown, where in SF is the new ECCO store? I'll be there in a couple of months and have been looking for ECCOs.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 06:39 PM
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Hi Sissy, Unfortunately on my last trip to Paris, I scrimped on the shoes instead of getting Mephisto's(which work well for me) and did I pay. Blisters on two toes and a grumpy disposition. If Ecco works for you then wear them. Nordstrom's Rack often has Ecco, Arche, and Mephisto on sale. Good luck
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:24 PM
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Miaow to you, too, Oaktown, Annie, etc.
Old Jul 17th, 2001, 09:57 PM
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Old Jul 18th, 2001, 12:28 AM
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Well, well, well!

Who let the dogs out???

LINDA: The new Ecco store in SF is located in Union Square. Do not confuse this with Union Street which is also a "must" if you are coming to SF.
Have a great time girl!

CURIOUS: These "mud dogs" cost aprox. $100.00.without our California tax.

ANNIE: "I never give advice", is that a chastisement?????????

The USC Accomplishment, thank you very much, was related to my INTERNET "begging" of posters to please not "do" a Chandra Levy thread because doing so is IMHO totally out of the TRAVEL/humanitarian question.
You do not need an advanced degree to "get" that.(Shaking my head)

It is a good thing that Chandra did not obtain her PhD from the same place where I got mine, least you would have to roll your eyes AGAIN.

Why on earth, I mean Internet, would you roll YOUR eyes at higher education????...Especially as interjected to TRY and bring some compassion to a topic about another woman, man,child or animal?

Annie, you do get an "A" for fashion. I am a Jimmy Choo-aholic so anyone who has the good sense to "Choo it" is at the end of my day alright with me.


FF: "50, if you are lucky"????????? Are you angry? Your moniker something YOU take seriously?

You need to read your advice to me...you perfectly made a HUGE fool of yourself for statrers by subsequently putting "strutters" and 4 inch high heel wearing folks down...wasn't this your chastisement for me to not put people down?

My grandmother who lived a very long, prosperous, and beautiful life "strutted" up until her last day. She was nobody's fool. (wink)

She is up in heaven "strutting" right now. I am not the slouching, meek, "blend in" type.
I also make NO apologies for who I am and how I go about living a truly blessed, vibrant and exciting life.

Daily I thank God that I am alive, present and that I do not take my days given as "dress rehersals".

FF you and those like you will just have to deal with that.

I do not need you as my fan. That you had to "go there" is awfully pathetic in my book. You sound JUST like those girls in elementary, high school and near the proverbal "water cooler".

Stop Hating on a woman who likes having her self together. If my like of orange and the like does not float your boat...Tough, you will live. Right? Be careful what you put out there. That Karma thing should be a real consideration but again, this is the Internet so do your thing.

SIGH, Again, fashion and the like can cause such a stir amongst travelers, posters, lurkers and even trolls.

I say wear what you like when you like and how you like...ALWAYS.

To end this I ask this question:
What rhymes with orange?

Ya'll can have it from there...

My Very Best,
Happy Travels and Happy Shopping!
Old Jul 18th, 2001, 04:01 AM
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I for one am sick and tired of Oaktown turning her every post into a personal diatribe. Seriously, lady, can't you manage a brief, objective post without turning the entire thread into a discussion about YOU? Your over-punctuated (wink-wink!!!!--yuck) snarky messages, brimming with conceit are tired, tired, tired. Please go back to the US board, so I only have to avoid your nonsense in one place. I for one DON'T CARE about your orange shorts, especially on a thread about comfortable shoes. The original poster didn't even mention fashion, and certainly didn't ask your opinion on tacky California fashions--she's going to Europe. Clearly, you need to work out this self-absorbment with a therapist or a journal, but please spare us your self-aggrandizing BS.

Sissy--to your original point, go to the best department store in your area, and ask to try on shoes suitable to your trip. What works on my feet may not work on yours. They look around on e-bay, and you may find a bargain. Good luck, and have a great trip.
Old Jul 18th, 2001, 05:53 AM
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I live in New York and often walk several miles on cement in a day.
This may not need to be stated, but: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in a shoe for walking in cities, museums, etc. is a thick rubber sole. You do not want just leather between your foot and the sidewalk. Thick rubber cushioning makes all the difference.
As an inappropriate suggestion, Arche shoes (very expensive) are incredibly wonderful for the feet, they changed my life and the lives of all my friends. They are totally comfortable and also stylish looking (in a particular way, if it suits you). We all find that not every pair fits everyone, so I wouldn't buy off e-Bay (if it's possible) unless I'd tried on the exact shoe and size.
They are French--if the dollar is good against the franc I would guess they're cheaper there.
And: Aerosoles are knockoffs of Arche--I have heard good things about them too.
My Arche shoes last me at least 5 years of hard wear, some have lasted ten.
Old Jul 18th, 2001, 07:28 AM
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Oaktown -- just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Knew without a whisper of doubt that you and your whole family consider strutting an important thing, otherwise you wouldn't have put it in your post.

Of course you look better than I do in shorts, but that doesn't make you anything other than a package of something. It certainly doesn't make you an authority on fashion or shoes or whatever -- just lucky for the moment. If you got hit by a bus tomorrow (instead of surviving to 50 or 70 or 90), we can eulogize you by saying you strutted. BFD. What a boon to humanity.

Actually, while I usually admire a sparkle in someone's soul, there's a difference between joie de vivre and flat-out narcissism. One is pretty, the other isn't. The fact that you seem to invite and enjoy people reacting negatively to you here -- that you dominate any discussion that isn't travel related -- tells us you qualify as a 4-plus narcissist. "And proud of it," right?
As to shoes for being a tourist and shoes for working -- very few people have jobs that entail long stretches of walking interrupted by long stretches of sauntering or standing (as you would in a museum), which is actually harder for some backs or feet than walking. One needs shoes that will do both. I'd love to know whether Arche shoes have thicker rubber soles than Aerosoles AND have good arch support (which Aerosoles lack).
Old Jul 18th, 2001, 07:34 AM
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Focus. Shoes. I believe this thread is about shoes. Check the question again. Am I wrong?

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