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Tim May 29th, 2001 10:16 AM

We finally know the reason
 
After 5 months I now know the reason why it seems that this site is full of know it alls. Teachers Teachers Teachers.

Punctuation May 29th, 2001 10:29 AM

Tim, <BR> <BR>Your post suffers from the following defects: <BR> <BR>You omitted the comma after "months." <BR> <BR>"know it alls" is properly punctuated as "know-it-alls." <BR> <BR>Single digit numbers are generally spelled out in text. <BR> <BR>"Teachers Teachers Teachers" is wrong because only the first should be capitalized. Also (and this is largely a matter of style), using "Teachers, teachers, teachers ..." would be more effective. <BR> <BR>I give you a C-. Keep studying, dear.

Eva May 29th, 2001 10:30 AM

Well, a couple of months a go I remember a thread asking how many people are teachers - we can start a similer one being "How many people are NOT teachers, and what do you do?" I will start - I am a legal assistant.

meagan May 29th, 2001 10:37 AM

Hey Eva - <BR> <BR>me too! Although I'm a relative newbie to the world of legal assistantdom (1 year) and hopefully come this time next year, I'll be moving 'across the pond' for some new and exciting adventures! In the meantime, I'll settle for one month of traipsing across Europe this summer!

Zero May 29th, 2001 10:43 AM

I'm an illegal assistant.

Groucho May 29th, 2001 11:00 AM

I'm an assistant to an illegal alien.

Smartie May 29th, 2001 11:27 AM

I am not a teacher but I am a smart ass and I know everything.

elvira May 29th, 2001 11:31 AM

I teach smart asses and know-it-alls; none of them are legal.

Groucho May 29th, 2001 11:49 AM

I have taught illegal aliens to assist legal assitants.

aliensRus May 29th, 2001 12:14 PM

We teach assistant aliens how to assist illegal immigrants.

saythesecretword May 29th, 2001 12:23 PM

We alienate assistants who want to immigrate.

Groucho May 29th, 2001 12:33 PM

Assisting aliens to teach legal assistants is quite illegal.

Eva May 29th, 2001 12:41 PM

Meagan - I am sooo jealous! You mean that you are going to escape this in a year! Do tell! <BR> <BR>The rest of you: I love you all but you are all nuts. <BR> <BR>Where am I going and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Art May 29th, 2001 02:49 PM

I think that everyone who has responded to this thread should be nominated to the Pompous Ass Club(PAC). <BR>Regards <BR>Arthur

sorry May 29th, 2001 03:21 PM

But, Elvira, I must correct your grammar. It should be, "none of them is legal," since none is the subject (not them) and it's singular!

PAC Wannabe May 29th, 2001 03:58 PM

To Sorry: <BR> <BR>You wrote: "But, Elvira, I must correct your grammar. It should be, "none of them is legal," since none is the subject (not them) and it's singular! " <BR> <BR>The use of "since" is improper here. As you are not referring to the passage of time, the proper word would be "because." <BR> <BR>That makes me a bigger Ass than anyone on this thread. Ha! <BR> <BR>

Bert May 29th, 2001 04:06 PM

I'm suddenly remembering why I quit this page for a few months. What a bunch of nerds.

Oaktown Traveler May 30th, 2001 08:23 AM

A Slow Day??? <BR> <BR>I leave the boards for a whole day and this is what I come back to??? <BR> <BR>COULD NOT STOP LAUGHING! <BR> <BR>Oaktown

elvira May 30th, 2001 09:15 AM

Sorry, [email protected], but this is from Merriam Webster's on-line dictionary (asterisks are mine): <BR> <BR>Main Entry: none <BR>Pronunciation: 'n&n <BR>Function: pronoun, singular or *plural* in construction <BR> <BR> <BR>

nerdnerd May 30th, 2001 10:43 AM

Yo, Bert - <BR>Keep quittin', okay?

Ican't May 30th, 2001 10:48 AM

Gee, Bert, we're all so heartbroken that you're quitting again! We didn't even realize you had been gone!

sorry May 30th, 2001 10:50 AM

But, Elvira, in the better circles, none is always singular. <BR>You'll never be real member of the PAC unless you agree to that!

iknowmore May 30th, 2001 11:04 AM

Perhaps we need to develop specialty subdivisions within the PAC - Nerdy PAs, for example, or Cynical PAs, or PAs who sneer at newbies, or Political PAs...my gosh, we all might qualify in more than one field of pomposity! In the words of the great Sitting American President (SAP) - "Make the Pie Higher!"

xx May 30th, 2001 11:31 AM

none = not one (contraction). Substituting not one for none gives you the sense. Not one are...????

D.B. May 30th, 2001 11:59 AM

Elvira, <BR>why didn't you just stick to the southwestern lingo and say "...t'aint none of 'em legal"? <BR> <BR>None is zero, nothing. How can nothing be singular, let alone plural? All I got from this thread, was alot a nothin'. <BR> <BR> <BR>

elvira May 30th, 2001 12:36 PM

Argue with Merriam-Webster; anyway, it's the Canadians who use "none" incorrectly.

Groucho May 30th, 2001 12:49 PM

I teach assistant Canadians to use illegal grammar.

SharonM May 30th, 2001 01:20 PM

...and none too soon, Groucho!

Art May 30th, 2001 01:53 PM

I think that we all ought to ask Yogi (Berra) to give us authoritative answers to grammatical questions

dan woodlief May 30th, 2001 06:25 PM

I think Elvira is right on this one. I believe that in more formal grammar none is singular, but it can also be used in a less formal sense in the plural. Ask yourself which one actually sounds better. Sure, "none is" sounds right, but "none of them is" really doesn't, regardless of its technical correctness. However, if you change that to "not one of them," it sounds just right to use the singular.

Roger May 30th, 2001 06:33 PM

Guess it depends on what part of the country you are from. "None of them is" sounds right to me. Maybe it also has something to do with what your definition of "is" is.

puzzled May 30th, 2001 06:45 PM

What? Canadians use "none" incorrectly? None of the Canadians I know uses - er, use - er - ... oh, never mind.

StCirq May 30th, 2001 06:50 PM

As someone whose business revolves around grammar, let me quote from H.W. Fowler's "Modern English Usage." (Fowler's is widely considered to be an authority on usage.) <BR> <BR>"It is a mistake to suppose that the pronoun (none) is singular only and must at all costs be followed by singular verbs, etc.; the OECD explicityly states that plural construction is commoner." <BR> <BR>Singular usually sounds better to my ear, but euphonics are only one aspect of language.

StCirq May 30th, 2001 06:59 PM

As someone whose business revolves around grammar, let me quote from H.W. Fowler's "Modern English Usage." (Fowler's is widely considered to be an authority on usage.) <BR> <BR>"It is a mistake to suppose that the pronoun (none) is singular only and must at all costs be followed by singular verbs, etc.; the OECD explicitly states that plural construction is commoner." <BR> <BR>Singular usually sounds better to my ear, but euphonics are only one aspect of language.


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