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We buy a fan to mask the noise in European Hotels

Oct 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM
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I don't think noise is a function of european hotels - unless you're staying in 1/2* places with cardboard walls.

But - if you're staying the center of a city - any city - there is always street noise - it's just a fct of so many people close together.

I always think it's hysterical when people come to NYC and then complain about street noise. Yes - 20 million people make a lot more noise than the few thousand in your suburb! Duh!
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Oct 3rd, 2007, 04:59 PM
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With all the fresh air and exercise on vacation, I sleep through just about anything. It surprises me to learn that so many people can not sleep through the routine sounds of life. Perhaps a small waive/wind/chirping bird machine will work for you. It is small, and I think Magellan or Travelsmith sells them.
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Oct 3rd, 2007, 05:04 PM
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I am a very light sleeper every where we travel. I am thinking of picking up one of those sound machines above to take with me to Europe. Since we are traveling, time zone changes, and meeting up with family, I will need to sleep.
I will bring earplugs and my machine and a few glasses of wine should do it!
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Oct 4th, 2007, 02:33 PM
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distant_traveler wrote: "I have always bought a large loud fan and used it to mask the noise, it helps me sleep."

I'm just home from a trip. In my hotel in Normandy, my sleep was disturbed by a humming noise -- the sort that might come from a loud fan in the next room.
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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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I guess I've been lucky so far. Usually get so tired during the day - not used to moving a lot sitting at the desk at work - glad to finally get to bed.
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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:11 PM
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LOL Padraig

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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:12 PM
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Earplugs. We travel very light -- a fan would fill up our whole bag!
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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:24 PM
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Our senses are triggered by the change, not the level, of an input. So if you swamp your sense of hearing with continuous loud noise, you won't hear anything else.

” Switch on the TV or FM
” Tune it to a spot between stations
” Turn the volume way way up
” Once your brain acclimates to the white noise, you will sleep through any noises that aren't louder than the noise

This technique is also the underlying principle of audioanalgesia.
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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:25 PM
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Our senses are triggered by the change, not the level, of an input. So if you swamp your sense of hearing with continuous loud noise, you won't hear anything else.

• Switch on the TV or FM
• Tune it to a spot between stations
• Turn the volume way way up
• Once your brain acclimates to the white noise, you will sleep through any noises that aren't louder than the noise

This technique is also the underlying principle of audioanalgesia.
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Oct 4th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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I have been bothered by noise in several hotel rooms in Europe and I admit that I find it highly annoying because I'm one of those people who needs silence when I sleep and have a hard time tuning things out. In the US I don't usually have a problem because I just turn on the air conditioner or fan unit and it usually blocks out any outside noise, but we all know that units like this aren't standard in European hotels. One particular instance was a hotel in Rome. The hotel was an old convent that was converted to a hotel. The hotel itself was gorgeous but the sound echoed something terrible, bad enough that we checked out early and switched hotels.

So I did what the OP did. I bought a nice fold up travel fan from one of the travel sites, perhaps Magellan, and I never travel without it. It is heavy when the D battery is packed with it but by now its a necessity so I deal with it. On top of getting some well-liked air flowing, it blocks out enough noise that I can fall asleep without any problems.

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Oct 4th, 2007, 04:02 PM
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Robespierre, though I never knew the name for it, that's what I have been doing for years and years at home. Only I use a transistor radio, tuned to whatever ridiculously boring talk show is on. (Actually, late night radio shows are all ridiculous!)

My husband started doing it well before I ever did.

I can't wait to tell him that we practice audioanalgesia.
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Oct 4th, 2007, 04:04 PM
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And before anyone can comment about my fan noise (Padraig!), its a SMALL fan that can hardly be heard unless its placed on the nightstand next to me, which is exactly where it goes. Its not like I bought a big stand-up fan like the ones I use at home and drag it to Europe with me.

And earplugs don't work for me because my ears end up hurting after about an hour and I end up taking them out.

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Oct 4th, 2007, 06:35 PM
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thanks for the tip, distant. i too am a light sleeper. here in LA i use a fan, but never thought of getting a cheapie travel fan. great idea!

i hate earplugs. they give me headaches (as if i don't get those enough!) and make me clench my jaw.

L84SKY, love your tips!!!
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Oct 4th, 2007, 08:08 PM
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We always get a bottle of wine and do "mile high club".
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Oct 4th, 2007, 08:15 PM
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I'm a white noise user every night - I live on a busy Manhattan street (and also have a little tinitus - the white noise masks the ringing.)

I often travel with my pocket size noise machine, but without it I fall by on Robespierres method: with a snoring roommate in Paris, I draped a towel over the TV screen and tuned it to a "blank" channel, using the hiss as my noise. A radio works fine, too, tuned to no station. Either of these lack one thing the nice noise machine has: rhythm. Also, my machine has earplugs and can be useful on the flight if I'm sleepy but people are up talking, etc. It blocks the sudden sounds of a baby waking up, etc.

I owe a lot of this to my mother - she said that when I was a little guy she could get me to go to sleep by turning on the vacuum cleaner in the next room so I'd stop listening for voices and then hollering out my comments ...
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Oct 4th, 2007, 08:19 PM
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BTW, I haven't found outside noise (from the street or the building) to be a particular problem in Europe. I've had a lot of loud TV watchers and partyers in US hotels, though.

But I often choose a hotel slightly off the beaten path, not across the street from main attractions or "close to everything" - a comment that rings warning bells for me.
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Oct 5th, 2007, 05:34 AM
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If you want to use the TV or radio white noise as an option, just don't stay too close to an airport. We did that in 2000, in Chiswick (London), and there was a beacon beep every 10-15 seconds on any static noise we found. bleh.
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Oct 5th, 2007, 06:11 AM
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We experienced the loudest tv watcher next to our room in the Cayman Islands. It was so loud and the person had it on all night long!! I finally called the front desk at 6am when it seemed to get louder! It was turned off at night after that. The tv was loud and on all day though. (which we didn't care because we were out and about, but at night, I was happy it was off!)
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Oct 5th, 2007, 06:18 AM
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Re-Engineering. Where do you live in the USA? Or is the noise there acceptable/sleepable?
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Oct 5th, 2007, 05:23 PM
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tomasso, I am the same way. I have to have some sort of white noise to fall asleep and always have. At home I use a fan. In hotel rooms I have used the bathroom exhaust fan to block out the noise if there isn't an air conditioner unit in the room. My travel fan was one of my best purchases.

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