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smokointokyo95 Sep 30th, 2014 08:25 AM

Ventimiglia to Trieste
 
What would be the cheapest way to get from Ventimiglia to Trieste? If there is a stopover en route then I will stay the night there because from what I've seen accomidation in Trieste looks quite steep. All help is greatly anticipated

Man_in_seat_61 Sep 30th, 2014 08:38 AM

Just book the trains at www.trenitalia.com from around 28 euros.

Or book Ventimiglia to say Milan from 19 euros then Milan to Trieste next day from 19 euros.

Simples! ;0)

smokointokyo95 Sep 30th, 2014 08:51 AM

Thank you so much! Is it necessary to book them or would I be able to get away with just buying them on the day?

neckervd Sep 30th, 2014 08:57 AM

Trieste: prices for single rooms with shared bathroom and breakfast start around 30 EUR.
I don't think that other towns in Italy will have cheaper rooms.

smokointokyo95 Sep 30th, 2014 09:09 AM

That is a good point. I've looked on the site for tickets to Milan and then to Trieste and there are no results for the day I want, any other suggestions?

PalenQ Sep 30th, 2014 09:30 AM

If you just show up prices will be much higher than booking weeks or months in advance but those discounted tickets are neither changeable nor refundable I think (maybe Man in Seat 61 can confirm that?) so be sure of your dates and times as discounted tickets are for a specific train at a specific time - two or three trains in your case - probably changing in Miland and Venice-Mestre stations.

For lots of great info on Italian trains check not only Man in Seat 61's excellent commercial site (great info on discounted tickets) and also www.ricksteves.com and www.budgeteuropetravel.com - sites that will show you the ins and outs of Italian trains.

You can always buy tickets on the day of travel but at the going rate you see on www.trenitalia.com - indeed if wanting full flexibility to chose which train once there you can always always IME buy tickets on the day or travel even if at times it may mean having to upgrade to first class (which does have significant benefits especially for those with typically too much luggage as there is a lot more room to eaisly stow luggage as opposed to a much more crowded 2nd class (which is completely adequare - just that first class is more adequate - bigger seats and IME usually ample empty seats. Cheapest may not always be the best but that is for you to decide not me or others.

kybourbon Sep 30th, 2014 10:47 AM

>>> I've looked on the site for tickets to Milan and then to Trieste and there are no results for the day I want, any other suggestions?<<<

Either you are looking outside the current schedules (runs through the 2nd weekend in Dec.) or your Ventimiglia/Milan itinerary requires a regional train which can only be booked online 7 days in advance. What is your date of travel?

PalenQ Sep 30th, 2014 12:31 PM

Most Ventimiglia to Genoa/Milan trains are indeed regional trains which like resident Italian train ticketing expert kybourbon explains above.

PalenQ Sep 30th, 2014 01:45 PM

Actually the best connection weekdays leaves Ventimgilia at 8:58 am on an IC train that you change from in Milan, leaving there at 13:05 an ES - the best trains - and then changing at Venice-Mestre to a regional train, arriving in Trieste around 5:30 pm.

IC and ES trains can be booked in advance for discounted fares - more on ES trains I think than on IC - earlier trains take much longer as do many of the later ones so that is the optimal morning departure from Ventimiglia.

smokointokyo95 Sep 30th, 2014 01:47 PM

My date if travel is the 2nd of October so two days away. I don't have anywhere for the tickets to be sent to so I cannot buy them online but yeah I was hoping all is well buying the tickets at the station

PalenQ Sep 30th, 2014 01:57 PM

At what station? Ventimiglia? Nice? Are you starting in Ventimiglia - anyway never a problem IME buying on day of train but leave time for waits in ticket window.

kybourbon Sep 30th, 2014 02:47 PM

>>>I don't have anywhere for the tickets to be sent to so I cannot buy them online but yeah I was hoping all is well buying the tickets at the station<<<

If you are already in Italy, pop into any store with the Trenitalia logo and buy your tickets. There are IC trains departing for Milan that don't require a change at 9 and 11. A few discounts available (19€). Regular price is 32€.

smokointokyo95 Oct 1st, 2014 01:54 AM

Hi all, thank you so much for your help. I'm actually in Nice at the moment and head to Italy tomorrow (as I need to make my way to Croatia in the next couple of days). That's a load off my mind that I may have the chance to catch a train in the day. I'm thinking I might go from Nice to Ventimiglia in the morning then catch a connecting train to either Milan or Genoa to stay the night before leaving the next day to Trieste.

bvlenci Oct 1st, 2014 04:05 AM

It's a very long trip, at the very least 8 hours if you just change in Milan, and 10 hours or more if you change in both Genoa and Milan, or in Milan and Venice. I would suggest breaking it somewhere. Genova wouldn't be my first choice, because it's early in the trip, and there's still a seven-hour trip from there to Trieste, with at least one, and usually two more, changes of train.

The trains leaving Milan going to Trieste stop in lots of cities that would make good stopovers, such as Padova, Verona, Vicenza, Venice and Peschiera del Garda (on Lake Garda). (The stops aren't in that order.) All are wonderful places to visit, and a stay of two nights in any of them would be rewarding. On the Trenitalia schedules, click on the little "i" next to the train type to see all the stops that train makes and when it gets there.

There are no longer any ES trains, and haven't been for a number of years. The ES trains have been renamed "Frecciabianca", and they're no longer the top trains in Italy. As a matter of fact, they're getting quite tired. The best trains now are the top-of-the-line Frecciarossa trains, followed by the second-best Frecciargento. However, neither of these operates on that route, which is a minor one.

The route advised by Palenq requires two changes of train, the last being a regional train from Venice to Trieste. I would prefer an itinerary with only one change of train, but there aren't many of them, and some get to Trieste very late in the day. If you stop over on the way, it wouldn't make such a big difference.

PalenQ Oct 1st, 2014 09:26 AM

There are no longer any ES trains, and haven't been for a number of years. The ES trains have been renamed "Frecciabianca", and they're no longer the top trains in Italy>

The bahn.de/en used ES for all kind of EuroStar Italia trains for some reason - that is why I said the best train on that route. Are you saying they do not use the ES name any more at all? I'm not doubting you but just to clarify.

It used to be ES traction with ETR 450; ETR 650, etc as newer ones came out.

I would not call Milan to Venice a minor route but it is not a high-speed route with all new rail lines avoiding many city centers, etc - so the trains no matter how spiffy they are cannot go that fast on the congested existing tracks - so the older former ES trains I think are the best on that route?

bvlenci Oct 1st, 2014 12:06 PM

No, there are no more trains at all called ES. If you look up that itinerary on the Trenitalia site, you'll see the same train, now called Frecciabianca. The ES name finally died altogether in 2012, but, whatever it's called, it hasn't been the best category of train for almost ten years, or ever since the first Frecciarossa trains made their debut.

I know there are no Frecciarossa trains on the Milan to Venice route, and I don't think there are any Frecciargento trains either, although I'm not 100% sure. It is in fact a rather minor route. Milan to Bologna is a major route, with faster (Frecciarossa) trains and more frequent service. Venice is a major player in tourist Italy, but not otherwise.

PalenQ Oct 1st, 2014 01:37 PM

It is in fact a rather minor route. Milan to Bologna is a major route, with faster (Frecciarossa) trains and more frequent service. Venice is a major player in tourist Italy, but not otherwise.>

It don't seem to be a minor route or should be with Verona, Padua, Brescia and the densely populated northern Italian towns along its route - granted not many going into Venice itself.


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