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GoAway Oct 2nd, 2006 08:55 AM

Venice or Rome - where to start off with jetlag
 
I know from experience more or less how jet-lagged I am after flying to Europe - the less confusion and more straightforward the next leg of the journy is on arrival the better.

I can start my Italy trip in either Venice or Rome. Which one is going to be the easiest to arrive at and get to a hotel given that I'm going to arrive half brain-dead?

Mimar Oct 2nd, 2006 09:05 AM

Let's see. From Fiumicino you can take a taxi or town car to your hotel -- if you don't care about the expense. Otherwise, take the train from the airport to the Rome train station and then a taxi to your hotel.

In Venezia the expensive way is to walk a short ways from the airport to the water taxi stop and take that to your hotel. More cheaply, take a bus from the airport to Piazzale Roma and then the vaporetto to the stop closest to your hotel.

My personal preference is for recovering from jet lag in Venice. It's much less intense than Rome. And has fewer must-see tourist destinations. You can wander around in a jet-lagged haze (without having to worry about cars) getting lost and have a wonderful time.

MaureenB Oct 2nd, 2006 09:17 AM

I would choose Venice, also, if jet-lag will be a problem, for the same reasons Mimar states.
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Therese Oct 2nd, 2006 09:26 AM

Another vote for jet lag in Venice: smaller, slower-paced, no negotiating frenetic Italian traffic.

nytraveler Oct 2nd, 2006 09:38 AM

I always decide based on flights. I refuse to start a vacation changing planes. If I'm going to lose my luggage I want it to be on the way home - where you hae other ckothes, rather than the start of a vacation.

So I would do Venice only if you can get a direct flight. Otherwise I would do Rome. And - I think getting to your hotel in Rome is easier - the cab can pull up right in front - no wandering down alleys looking for it while dragging your luggage.


annabelle2 Oct 2nd, 2006 10:08 AM

Agree that the time and schedule of the flight makes a difference, but all things being equal I prefer to start in Venice and leave from Rome.

In Venice, as mentioned, there are less 'sights' I feel compelled to see and it is the perfect, carless place to wander in and savor the atmosphere. On the last trip we arrived late from London but did not have too much difficulty getting the bus and then the vaporetto to our Dorsoduro B&B.

(But if I had been alone, the late night arrival and the wandering to find the B&B down tiny dark alleyways would have been more intimidating.)

Rome is so fun for that final night -- the lit-up fountains and monuments and all that energy! Great way to leave on an upbeat note.

i_am_kane Oct 2nd, 2006 10:16 AM

I've done arrival in both Rome and Venice. I would choose Venice.

suze Oct 2nd, 2006 11:48 AM

I don't think it matters, as long as you allow 2 days at the start of the trip to "do nothing" and get over the jet-lag. Because I love Venice so much, I'd probably save it for the end of my trip once I was feeling better.

But my method would be land Rome (I have never been there), taxi to hotel, hang around that one neighborhood sleeping it off for a couple days. I get horrible jet lag and it is worth it to sacrifice the first few days to relaxation, for the sake of my sanity the rest of the trip.

nessundorma Oct 2nd, 2006 12:00 PM

Problem with Venezia is that getting to your hotel can be quite a hassle. Where are you staying? Is it very obvious how to get there or is there a good chance you will get lost? Would you be willing to spring for the cost of a water taxi?

I find Roma a snap: Get off plane, get on train, get into taxi, walk into hotel.

By contrast, Venezia is get off plane, get on bus, get on vaporetto, get lost.

However, the upside of Venezia is that you can wander around your first day without feeling like you're being flayed alive by noise, exhaust and impatient waiters.

Just as a side note, for me Venezia is so crammed with things I want to see I find it dizzying to be there. Whereas many attractions in Roma I find missable. I guess I also feel Roma will always be there, and I worry Venezia is unsustainable. But that shouldn't concern you on your trip!

Littlefrenchbird Oct 2nd, 2006 12:27 PM

Everyone has a point here but I tend to agree with Nessundorma. I've been to Venice twice and finding a hotel there can be painful. Even if you decide to spring for a water taxi, that's only helpful if your hotel is right on a canal that is accessible to the water taxi. Otherwise you'll still have to walk around with your luggage when you get off the water taxi.

If you're jet-lagged in Rome, you can simply take in sights little by little. The big ones are the Coliseum and the Vatican but there are other things to do that won't require much brain activity.

I say start in Rome.

toni_g_b Oct 2nd, 2006 12:30 PM

And another vote for Venice. We did it in 2003 arriving in Milan and then training to Venice. It was easy just to stroll around, window shopping, light dinner, trying to stay up until we could get on Venice time.

missypie Oct 2nd, 2006 12:34 PM

I'd do Rome first. When I'm jet lagged, I find it hard to find my way back home on the first evening and it Venice it could be close to impossible. In Rome, do the Pantheon, Spanish Steps, Trevi Fountain, perhaps Santa Maria sopra Minerva and a fwe other churches...."free" stuff, so if you feel like you didn't experience them properly, you can easily return.

Dayle Oct 2nd, 2006 02:24 PM

I vote for Venice first. So pick a hotel very near a vapporetto stop or right on the Grand Canal. Easy to find!

kenderina Oct 2nd, 2006 02:28 PM

I'd stay in Rome. The reasons has been said by other posters. The walking with suitcases, going up and down stairs in Venice is not appealing at all when you are jet-lagged.

Saraho Oct 2nd, 2006 02:33 PM

Definitely Venice for us- we have done it both ways several times, and Venice is much more relaxing. We take the Alialunga (sp) waterbus from the airport- it's about a 45 minute ride from the airport to San Marco.It's a lovely beginning to arrive in Venice by sea!

Have your hotel send you a good map and directions so you won't have trouble finding your hotel. You can always ask directions from shopkeepers. Or you can get a porter when you get off the waterbus and he will carry your luggage and go with you to your hotel.

Dayle Oct 2nd, 2006 04:18 PM

Hi again go,

Whichever you choose, highly recommend the Streetwise city maps. Very detailed, laminated so they hold up, and have all the major/minor sights and churches very nicely indexed.

venere.com will also help you in choosing a hotel by location.

dcd Oct 2nd, 2006 04:28 PM

I think it depends on airline schedules and on your itinerary. If you're only spending a couple of days in Venice, I wouldn't start there. It's too unique to experience in a fog. We started in Rome where we had lots of energy and ended in Venice where we had lots of time to relax and savor the city. Bottom line, they're 2 great cities and there really is no "right" or "wrong" answer. Dave

GoAway Oct 2nd, 2006 04:37 PM

Thanks to all of you for your opinion. Since this is still all in the planning stages, I can adjust the number of days I spend in either city to accommodate a jet-lag day. Based on these comments, though, I'm leaning towards Venice - with a hotel that has access via a water taxi for less hassle.

Thanks again!

Pierre_Kodak Oct 2nd, 2006 06:05 PM

Ask yor doctor for Sonata, a short acting sleeping pill. Flying from Philladelphia to FCO, we took the pill an hour or two into the flight and woke up an hour before landing. It was great, no drowsiness and we hit the ground running. Why start your vacation needing to sleep all afternoon?
If you are adverse to taking anything, ignore this recommendation.
Worked like a charm for me.

chefdarka Oct 4th, 2006 03:12 PM

You don't mention how long your trip to Italy (Rome? Venice?) will last. Having been there many times, I would fly into Rome. If you can afford a dual/hotel for Rome and Venice, you can check into your Rome hotel and take an evening train trip to Venice. Since the trip is several hours, you can catch up on your sleep. Arrive in Venice in the early morning (generally 7am) refreshed; see the city and return to Rome. Arriving in Venice without all of your faculties can be dicey! Good luck! PS: any room in your luggage for an additional passenger?

2Italy Oct 4th, 2006 04:59 PM

A LOT of the flights OUT of Venice leave very early in the morning. Getting to the airport from Venice can be difficult and expensive. I would start in Venice and fly out of Rome.

i_am_kane Oct 4th, 2006 05:15 PM

2Italy...good point.

artvark Oct 4th, 2006 05:53 PM

I vote for Venice because when I am jet lagged, I end up sleeping and getting up at odd hours for a couple of days. If you end up wide awake at 3 AM in Venice, you can go out wandering around. The place is amazing when there is no one else up and about. Be sure to get to San Marco Plaza just before sunrise.

anj19 Oct 4th, 2006 06:17 PM

I have done a similar trip and I started in Venice. It's perfect. Exactly what a lot of the others have said, Venice is much more laid back than Rome, fewer "must see" sites, great place to get aclimated. Rome is a great city to end your trip on. You will be pumped up and ready to tackle Rome - you really do need to be "with it" there. Enjoy!! Both cities are great, my husband and I had a difficult time deciding which we loved more!

operalover Oct 4th, 2006 08:17 PM

I agree that Venice is the more relaxed city to get around in.

Since we are on Venice and/or Rome, we will be arriving Milan in March, and want to spend a few days before taking train to Venice. We would like to take a cruise ship from Venice to Rome or Venice to Venice in March. Any ideas?
Thanks.

shetraveler Oct 5th, 2006 11:36 AM

As a friend of mine always says, "Rome is work." Much as I love the eternal city, you really do have to be on your toes the whole time you are there. The streets are narrow, so there's much jostling during your stroll. Crossing boulevards could be a contact sport if you aren't careful (watch out for cars and vespas!), and there are only a few pockets of quiet (like the Palatine Hill). The pace in Rome is relentless and has always been for centuries. While Venice does have its challenges ... the seemingly dozens of bridges and stairs you have to navigate to get you your hotel, for example, presumeably you'll only have to do that twice (upon arrival and departure). Best sure to ask your hotel for specific directions on how to get to the property. If they're good, they'll tell you how many little bridges, left and rights and meters you'll have to go. Feel free to email me for more info. I just got back from both cities a week ago ...

nessundorma Oct 5th, 2006 01:24 PM

Although I don't believe in must-sees, I am puzzled by the remarks that there are fewer "must-sees" in Venezia than Roma.

For me, I spent a week in Venezia and still did not get to half of what I wanted to see, and I probably saw 10 or more famous sites.

I sometimes go to cities and don't do any sightseeing (or just a little). I sometimes skip the major sites entirely. (Hey, someday I guess I might go to the Tower of London.) But I wouldn't say there were fewer 4star attractions in these places. And I do think Venezia has just as many 4star places of importance as Roma.

Mimar Oct 6th, 2006 07:49 AM

Obviously, one person's must-sees are different from another's. To get a generic view, I looked at my Michelin's guide to Italy and counted 3-star places; Venice had 11, Rome 78. (Disclaimer: I might have missed a three-starrer or 2.) So you can see how a first-time visitor might get the idea there is more intense touristing to do in Rome.

curlysue Oct 6th, 2006 11:14 AM

I would agree that getting around Venice sucks when you are jet lagged. The streets are confusing enough when one is alert! I once got in late to Venice and by the time I found my way to my hostel they had closed so my friend and I cozied up and slept on the sidewalk next to it!

mbluvsne Oct 9th, 2006 07:20 AM

First, I agree wholeheartedly with the tip on Sonata. I first took it on a flight to Venice 4 years ago, had no grogginess afterwards, and was able to spend the whole first day doing things and feeling like a real person. Second, if the cost isn't a huge factor, take a water taxi directly from the airport to the stop nearest your hotel. It is great to pull away from the dock at the airport, on your way, AND enjoying the city from its best perspective, while other people are still trying to figure out how to reach the main train station. Skip a gondola ride if necessary. Our hotel was on a canal and we walked up the steps from the water to our hotel, left our luggage at 9 a.m., and didn't come back until dinner. Very easy. There are so many places to stay, you should be able to book a convenient place. Third, traffic in Venice is other people, so you don't have to worry about being crushed by a scooter driving on the sidewalk behind you. (Yes, that happens often in Rome.) As someone else mentioned, Venice is magical very late at night when it finally goes to sleep, so if you are not, and you have company to explore the area safely with you, that is another way to address your jet lag. Just got back from a weeks in the Lake district, and wish I were sitting on the patio of the house we rented, drinking wine, instead of at work, reading Fodor's to figure out where to go next!


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