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Val d'Orcia Route: Montepulciano to Pienza or via Monticchiello?

Val d'Orcia Route: Montepulciano to Pienza or via Monticchiello?

Old Apr 6th, 2011, 02:40 PM
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Old Apr 6th, 2011, 04:21 PM
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Old Apr 6th, 2011, 06:14 PM
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Bob, Tedgale, and others interested in La Foce, have you read IRIS ORIGO, MARCHESA OF VAL D’ORCIA by Caroline Moorehead? It is the fascinating bio of the woman – an intellectual Anglo/American beauty who married an engaging Italian aristocrat. Together they developed La Foce from a mediaeval fiefdom to a magnificent, productive estate.

Iris’s early life was intertwined with the literati and art connoisseurs, including the redoubtable Bernard Berenson and other glamorous ex-pats in Florence in the 20s and 30s.

The most remarkable part of the book is the description of the dangers and privations faced by Italians of every stripe and class during WWII. La Foce was a battleground during the conflict with Germans running north pursued by Allied troops from the south. Iris also wrote a memoir of that period showing what she and her husband did to survive and provide for their tenants which was truly heroic.
Interesting to juxtapose the serenity and beauty of the Tuscany we know with what its inhabitants endured during World War II. Just a thought….
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not sure if this helps. but I drove through the region a few years ago, and the drive from the south heading north into Montechiello from Spedaletto on Strada Provincial Orcia della Macchia is just unbelievably beautiful. Seems if you can get to La Foce from Chianciano or Montepulciano, then to the Strada provinciale Orcia- Soccena, then north to Montechiello, then on to Pienza, that would be the maximal most scenic drive, albeit involving some back tracking.
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Just a note to the wise if you have a few days...check on La Porta's opening days and times before going out there (which of course is a beautiful drive anyway). We went all the way there and it was closed for the day. We weren't the only ones in that predicament that day!
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Old Apr 2nd, 2012, 07:32 PM
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kwren is right. We got there just as they filled up. In most other countries, wehn they get full they will tell you it will be an hour to 90 min wait. In Italy, they just say "We are full" and walk away, or expect you to walk away. There are, I think one or two other nice litle restaurants in this little town that are nice. So, a backup plan is smart.
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Old Oct 13th, 2012, 04:14 PM
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This is great info! I'll be headed to this area in about a week plus a few days, so incredibly timely. (albeit I'll be headed in the other direction - will just turn everything around!)
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Old Oct 8th, 2013, 01:49 AM
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Find these posts depressing.

Does anyone have a sense of adventure anymore?

Beginning to think zeppole was right all along, which is even more depressing.
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Old Oct 8th, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Dickie,

Don't be depressed. Everyone has a different sense of adventure. What's your's?
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Well, I first went to La Porta 20 years ago. Southern Tuscany was much quieter, two years ago it just seemed to be full of people waving copies of Lonely Planet and photocopies of Fodors threads.

Too much information is sometimes a bad thing.

There again with age, time is more important than money. We all become less adventurous and don't want to make those crazy mistakes we made 20 years ago. Maybe it is just easier to follow everyone else.

Who knows?

Want some adventure.....The Osteria in La Befa, Near Murlo. Four tables and what ever animal passes the back door is on the menu that day. Wine comes from next doors fields. Take a phrase book.
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Old Oct 9th, 2013, 06:54 AM
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I think every place was quieter 20 years ago. I can no longer enjoy most cities in Italy and France during the spring, summer and fall. I prefer the less crowded days during winter. I also prefer visiting the countryside, seaside and lakes during May and October for the same reason.

I'll check out your osteria recommendation in La Befa the next time I'm nearby at lunch time.
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